Luminous_Rose
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Dragons and phoenixes aren't real though.
I think there are many that would disagree. Dragons seem like a thing to me =P and Phoenix's....well, I won't ever say it's impossible.
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Bible Study So, Is Science Wrong On This?
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I think there are many that would disagree. Dragons seem like a thing to me =P and Phoenix's....well, I won't ever say it's impossible.
Oh.
Well, I guess that ends this discussion!
You know any geologists?
I know one.
Do you not believe that the following is correct?
And how do you explain this?
false, they have found human remains underneath dinosaurs...
What?
God got rid of the dinosaurs or man could not survive.
That's MY OWN PERSONAL THEORY.
How do you know this?
Could you post a link please?
Or do I just have to trust you?
Luminous_Rose
CF Ambassador
I can't say I know any geologists. I did know an archaeologist and that's not stuff we just sit around and talk about, we're not that close anyway.
The deeper we dig, the farther back in time we see...I don't think this is entirely accurate. There are probably bones that have totally broken down or have no trace left. Digging into the ground, there are things we can miss as we can't see absolutely everything under the earth.
I don't agree with the geological time scale nor do I see it as Biblical. Where is God in this whole time line? This is saying that the earth has essentially formed itself, which by the Bible, we know is incorrect. There were no millions of years ago so that makes the whole time line here inaccurate. I believe that God created the world and the living creatures and human beings in it within 6 days and rested on the 7th. Therefore, this geological time scale is inaccurate to the Bible. There isn't any way that we see fish and then way later we're seeing reptiles and mammals. That is too far of a stretch to be considered accurate with the creation of the earth. It takes a lot more faith to believe in a timeline like this than it does to believe God created the world in 6 days.
The deeper we dig, the farther back in time we see...I don't think this is entirely accurate. There are probably bones that have totally broken down or have no trace left. Digging into the ground, there are things we can miss as we can't see absolutely everything under the earth.
I don't agree with the geological time scale nor do I see it as Biblical. Where is God in this whole time line? This is saying that the earth has essentially formed itself, which by the Bible, we know is incorrect. There were no millions of years ago so that makes the whole time line here inaccurate. I believe that God created the world and the living creatures and human beings in it within 6 days and rested on the 7th. Therefore, this geological time scale is inaccurate to the Bible. There isn't any way that we see fish and then way later we're seeing reptiles and mammals. That is too far of a stretch to be considered accurate with the creation of the earth. It takes a lot more faith to believe in a timeline like this than it does to believe God created the world in 6 days.
The end of your post goes into the matter of evolution and that's a whole different story.
I'm not going to debate this out because it just doesn't seem very important to me.
I tend to like soteriology because it has to do with man's salvation.
What I do wonder, however, and the reason I worry a little bit about persons that believe the earth is 6,000 years old is this:
Let's say that one day, a few years from now, it is absolutely proven without the shadow of a doubt that the earth is 4 billion years old.
What would happen to your faith?
IOW,,,,is your faith in a book called Genesis
or is your faith in a being called God?
If the earth is more than 6,000 years old,,,does that mean God does not exist?
1 a.m. here,,,I have to leave, but I'll read your reply tomorrow morning.
'night.
Luminous_Rose
CF Ambassador
The comments on my last post were not exactly evolution based (but this timeline itself does fall in line with a lot of evolutionary ideas), but more concerned about the geological time line that is there as it differs a lot from what we read in Genesis. That is the true concern.
If they ever "prove" that the earth is 4 billion years old, that would definitely be something as there is a big gap, lots of missing data that we don't have and probably will never have. We can says, "Let's say one day that they prove without a doubt..." but that's just saying, it hasn't been proven - it isn't even a fact. So who is going to sit around, possibly even longer than their own lifetime, waiting for that glimmer of proof that the earth may be so old. It definitely makes a whole lot more sense at this point to believe what Genesis tells us, that the earth was created within 6 days.
While we're talking about this hypothetical "what if", I wouldn't believe it if they said that the earth was 4 billion years old, even with proof because that is not what I have read in the book of Genesis.
You say, "Is your faith in a book called Genesis or is your faith in a being called God?"
Here is my answer: It is in both because God and his word are one! You can't have God and not his Word. God is his word and that word is God.
Therefore, my faith is in God's word that was instilled in the book of Genesis, that God did what he said he did and that was create the world in 6 days and then rest on the 7th to see his creation, which he called good. I don't believe that we can separate God's word from Him. We cannot choose to believe in a book or believe in God, they fall hand in hand as the scripture tells us:
John 1:1-5 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
You also say, "If the earth is more than 6,000 years old, does that mean that God does not exist?"
The world cannot be proven to be much older than this (talking millions here), even if man claims it to be, there God still is. God knows when He made the earth and from what we can draw from a Biblical time line from the beginning to now, it's about 6,000 from what we know. There are a lot of time references listed in the Bible like years and lists of generations of people that historical records can place. There is no "if the earth is more than 6,000 years old. I don't have any reason not to trust God's word here.
I suppose I can't say why any other Bible believing Christian would see it otherwise. It doesn't make any sense to me.
Before modern science knew anything of the stegosaurus, an ancient Cambodian had carved one into the wall of a temple. Before modern science knew anything about, the Bible describes a dinosaur in Job 40:15-18. If not for the a priori belief that man and dinosaur never co-existed, no one would doubt these two examples show man and dinosaur coexisting.
Luminous_Rose
CF Ambassador
Before modern science knew anything of the stegosaurus, an ancient Cambodian had carved one into the wall of a temple. Before modern science knew anything about, the Bible describes a dinosaur in Job 40:15-18. If not for the a priori belief that man and dinosaur never co-existed, no one would doubt these two examples show man and dinosaur coexisting.
That's pretty neat!
I bet you make or would make a great husband.
Me neither but I highly doubt it.
That may not be a good thing.
Look up at the last thing I quoted. Believe me I'm just as puzzled as you are.
I mean, for whatever reason the dinosaurs became extinct....
HOW would man ever survived that?
Someone would have to explain that to me.
Maybe we're smaller and needed less food?
And WHY would science be making up this lie?
I can't think of a good reason.
People either believe in God or not...
lying about dinosaurs is not going to change anybody's mind...
either the believers or the atheists.
You should read the following.
Before modern science knew anything of the stegosaurus, an ancient Cambodian had carved one into the wall of a temple. Before modern science knew anything about, the Bible describes a dinosaur in Job 40:15-18. If not for the a priori belief that man and dinosaur never co-existed, no one would doubt these two examples show man and dinosaur coexisting.
Some believe we've had alien visitors because of some carvings in South America.
The above is from a temple in Cambodia built in about 1100 AD....Ta Phrom
The sketch is most probably NOT a dinosaur.
Do you believe dinosaurs lived in 1100AD?
And if not,,,HOW would the populace have known about them??
They didn't. It's a different animal.
Ta Prohm - Wikipedia
Could you read my post no. 133 and reply to it?
WHY would there be such a conspiracy??
We were discussing human remains being found together with dinosaur prints and you said this:
trust me, I read it in a science journal several years ago
these things stay hidden because the world is against it
WHY would there be such a conspiracy??
We were discussing human remains being found together with dinosaur prints and you said this:
trust me, I read it in a science journal several years ago
these things stay hidden because the world is against it
Agreed.
Also, those that adhere to macro-evolution do use this time scale to prove their point.
BTW, I don't believe in macro-evolution.
If it is proved that the earth is more than 6,000 years old,,,there would no longer be any "gaps".
That's the whole idea of proving it.
At this point, I cannot believe the earth is only 6,000 years old, but we're allowed to believe what we believe. It's not a problem, as far as I can see.
You wouldn't believe the earth is more than 6 thousand years old even WITH PROOF???
That means you've closed your mind to the truth.
God is God.
His word in the O.T. is something that was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
I don't see both as being ONE.
GOD is THE TRUTH.
The O.T. contains truth and is a revelation of God.
This is speaking about Jesus.
Jesus is God.
What does John 1:1....have to do with Genesis?
So you think historical records were always kept?
Even before man could write?
Let me assure you that I'm a bible believing Christian.
Because I don't believe in a young earth does not make me any less of a Christian than you....
and vice versa.
I was actually somewhat joking because post number 123 sort of sounded like the dinosaurs ate the humans, but other than the fact that I believe that science and Christianity can coexist with one another (although I'm not sure that you're saying they can't since you agree with me about the fact that God created the big bang) I agree with you.
I agree with you that science and Christianity can co-exist...they have to...
God created science too.
But, yes, the dinosaurs would have REALLY eaten the humans!
IF human bones AND dinosaur bones were found in the same time period...what would that mean?
Those that believe t his would have some explaining to do because according to the Old Testament the earth is only 6,000 years old !
No, that's wrong.
Mankind is only 6,000 years old.
There was a lot of creating before that.
You have some beliefs that are......different.
