once saved always saved

[Jeff Freeman]

do you believe this

 

[Gary]

No.

 

[Jeff Freeman]

okay that was simple

 

[Gary]

okay that was simple

Just keeping it real. And welcome to the site. Always glad to see new faces.

It is my belief that scripture does not support the OSAS doctrine. It leaves too many questions left unanswered. A simple understanding of the Word and a little common sense will tell you that OSAS is not feasible.
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[ReginaForbes]

Well let's put it this way...there ain't no foolin' God. A person who thinks they can get baptized and then run right out and sin as much as they want has another thing comin'! The Lord Himself says: "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'"

 

[Gary]

Well let's put it this way...there ain't no foolin' God. A person who thinks they can get baptized and then run right out and sin as much as they want has another thing comin'! The Lord Himself says: "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'"

That passage is so crystal clear and yet many can't see it.

Why?
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[Jeff Freeman]

Well let's put it this way...there ain't no foolin' God. A person who thinks they can get baptized and then run right out and sin as much as they want has another thing comin'! The Lord Himself says: "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'"

the rebuttal to that not mine is that those people that Jesus were talking to you were not saved in the first place

 

[Jeff Freeman]

That passage is so crystal clear and yet many can't see it.

Why?
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some say not me those people were not saved in the first place

 

[ReginaForbes]

That passage is so crystal clear and yet many can't see it.

Why?
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I think it's because in our fallen state humans try to complicate things...but God's word is so simple and to the point that little children grasp it while adults are over analyzing it. That's why Jesus tells us to be as children. Keep it simple sweetheart!

 

[Jeff Freeman]

some say not me those people were not saved in the first place

I think it's because in our fallen state humans try to complicate things...but God's word is so simple and to the point that little children grasp it while adults are over analyzing it. That's why Jesus tells us to be as children. Keep it simple sweetheart!

I agree a friend of mine are going back and forth he is in the once saved always saved by grace camp

 

[ReginaForbes]

some say not me those people were not saved in the first place

That begs the question then: can someone who has genuinely accepted Christ ever willingly turn their back on Him?

 

[Gary]

some say not me those people were not saved in the first place

And then I will counter with: "How do you know?"
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[Gary]

That begs the question then: can someone who has genuinely accepted Christ ever willingly turn their back on Him?

Scripture says yes.

 

[Jeff Freeman]

That begs the question then: can someone who has genuinely accepted Christ ever willingly turn their back on Him?

the possibility does exist we can reject God as long as we live but why would we

 

[Jeff Freeman]

And then I will counter with: "How do you know?"
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jesus said I never knew you therefore they could not have known him to be saved

 

[ReginaForbes]

Scripture says yes.

That's a scary thought if you think about it. I equate it to murdering someone you're in love with. I get nauseous just thinking about purposefully disobeying God and abandoning Him.

 

[iLOVE]

Question? If you believe a Christian who has been justified by God as righteous can not lose their salvation is this universalism?

Question 2? What makes your sins forgiven and their sins not?

 

[Jeff Freeman]

That's a scary thought if you think about it. I equate it to murdering someone you're in love with. I get nauseous just thinking about purposefully disobeying God and abandoning Him.

me too I just don't like the phrase because it's not in the Bible

 

[Gary]

Question? If you believe a Christian who has been justified by God as righteous can not lose their salvation is this universalism?

Question 2? What makes your sins forgiven and their sins not?

The topic OSAS, not Universalism. Let's work on that. Universalism is whole other topic.

 

[Jeff Freeman]

Question? If you believe a Christian who has been justified by God as righteous can not lose their salvation is this universalism?

Question 2? What makes your sins forgiven and their sins not?

No not universalism I personally don't believe in the phrase once saved always saved