New to the subforum, right allenwynne? I remember you from the Apologetics and Theology subforum.
I have been reading over threads and all I see is people banging heads with each other.
If we stuck to the issues rather than making things personal it would go a long way. Like instead of responding with opinions about my faith, people present evidence to perhaps counter my claims. Being told that your arguments are "weak," and that they are "not worth answering," is not conducive to civil conversation.
No one wins, everyone gets frustrated with each other, and everyone thinks they are right.
No one wins in any of the debates on this website, that's not the purpose for the discussion. If anyone is interested in claiming victory then I believe that to be foolish endeavor.
In my opinion, since this is a Christian Forum, the topics discussed should somehow be Christ-centered.
I find it difficult to get in on a debate that doesn't resemble any form of Christianity.
I don't have any problem with Christ-centered living, but I think when we bring our religious convictions to the table it can affect our objectivity to the evidence.
For instance, all scientists practice methodological naturalism, in that they assume that every action has a natural cause.They don't look to the moon and wonder, Hmm that's pretty cool how God just moves that with his finger. Rather, they look for other causes, which is how the great scientist and Christian Isaac Newton discovered gravity (well not from pondering on the moon, but you get my point).
I also wrote a post recently about Religious Beliefs and Objectivity, which is distinctly related to this very conversation in that we can confuse our devotion to Christ with the truth of certain nonessential issues, such as Creationism vs Evolution. If we answer the question of "how does this bring glory to God," prior to, "what does the truth of the natural world tell us," then we basically are just going off of our own understanding on what brings God the most glory. Rather than looking to the natural world, as the Bible tells us to, to see how God works.
See the post here:
http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/religious-belief-and-objectivity.56381/
The reality of the matter is that we disagree on what the Bible says concerning our origins, and our disagreement isn't just from the Bible, but also the evidence from the natural world which supports this perspective. We haven't been duped, or lied to. There isn't some grand conspiracy, or great deception from God or the devil planting fossils here and there. Evolution is a fact, and it appears that the primary reason for it's rejection in most cases is religious belief.
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As you can see, while there is some percentage of of every group that believes in evolution. Lower percentages seem to correspond with more conservative belief systems.