Is the vaccine safe?

[WIP]

cloranamine

One recommended treatment for individual wells, like ours, is to pour chlorine bleach, the same stuff used for laundry, into the well, cycle the water through the system until it can be smelled inside the house, and then after a period of time, run water to flush most of the bleach out and dilute it. There is always some residual bleach for a time.

 

[jasonc]

GAO: Military anthrax shots caused many reactions, prompted some pilots to quit

www.cidrap.umn.edu

One recommended treatment for individual wells, like ours, is to pour chlorine bleach, the same stuff used for laundry, into the well, cycle the water through the system until it can be smelled inside the house, and then after a period of time, run water to flush most of the bleach out and dilute it. There is always some residual bleach for a time.

you can but I was talking about the municipal method

 

[jasonc]

Mandatory Covid vaccines for troops are coming. What happens if they refuse?

Those military members who refuse a Covid-19 vaccine should expect a range of penalties for doing so, military law experts said.

www.politico.com

 

[JLB]

my wife has covid worse then I do and its still,moderate and I never got a fever she has taken it for 3 years and it affects her a lot you can't assume it will prevent or cure ,in my wife's case it does neither .her dosage of plaquenil is 400 mg a day .it requires her to be tested yearly for her eyes and a liver screen


yet she per you shouldn't take a vaccine that's new but chomp intervicin and plaquenil .if she was going to the er .she wouldn't get that .they won't .

the doctors that do are doing under fda authority to experiment
.

It works great on some, and others who take it daily, not so much.


We are all different, and each person should do as is best for themselves.




JLB

 

[jasonc]

It works great on some, and others who take it daily, not so much.


We are all different, and each person should do as is best for themselves.




JLB

that isn't what is claimed 100 per cent cured

you don't get that with amoxicillin ,penicillin which my wife can't take she has allergies to that .


you can't cry big pharma foul when moderna ,pfizer make plaquenil and the z pack and astra zenica does as well .they do sponsor research .

astra zenica brought out bayer which bought the lab smith Kline beechem these later two made and tested anti instec.f. treatments .I have not done a video on them here ,a formar location I can go to and do that ,a friend worked there and the North one that is still used by another company .we would visit him and pick him up from these places . both he and his wife being biologists worked there .

 

[jasonc]

Syngenta Research Center Celebrates 50 Years Of Service

Syngenta’s Research Center in Vero Beach, FL, is marking its golden anniversary this month. The facility has been an important hub of R&D for Syngenta

www.growingproduce.com

that was called ciba giegy when my friend left ,before that Bayer ,and Smith Kline beechem

 

[Truthfrees]

More DATA DRIVEN evidence and expert testimony that the COVID-19 vaccine is a bad risk. Each is 30ish minutes long.
Short story ... this is more like the flu, the Delta Variant is weaker, stress using therapeutics upon diagnosis which many doctors are not advising even though therapeutic list is extremely safe.
The tests of current vaccines skipped many of the usual steps, the FDA will not approve it unless they ignore their current standard (political pressure?), long term consequences of COVID shots unknown, warning to pregnant woman (or even women that want to become pregnant), yahda, yahda, yahda

First website
https://www.bitchute.com/video/FPehpfdTleDo/

Second Website

Website that will distribute therapeutics: Myfreedoctor.com
Preventatives: Vitamin C, D, B and Quercetin
List of therapeutic: Ivermectin, hydrochlorquine, zpack combos.

Aside: I am not a doctor ... the persons on the links are EXPERTS
Aside2: I sure would love to hear the PRO and CON side in a debate

thanks for this info

 

[Fastfredy0]

Warnings​

Plaquenil can cause dangerous effects on your heart, especially if you also use certain other medicines including the antibiotic azithromycin (Z-Pak). Seek emergency medical attention if you have fast or pounding heartbeats and sudden dizziness (like you might pass out).

Taking Plaquenil long-term or at high doses may cause irreversible damage to the retina of your eye that could progress to permanent vision problems.

Stop taking Plaquenil and call your doctor at once if you have blurred vision, trouble focusing, distorted vision, blind spots, trouble reading, changes in your color vision, increased sensitivity to light.

Agreed. I stand corrected.

All drugs have a potential to cause damage and should be prescribed by a doctor. I should have said that plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) is a relatively safe drug.

 

[JLB]

 

[Corn Pop]

It just repeats itself over and over again. I remember the first case and lockdown. The people suffer and do there part and stay home to prevent the spread and get rid of community transmission, and the government has only one job to do and thats to keep it out of the community and contained. Always In and out of lockdowns. And they always get praised for doing such a good job.

New Zealand enters snap lockdown after one new COVID-19 case found

www.9news.com.au

 

[Corn Pop]

Additional Freedoms for some but not for others?. Thats not a form of discrimination or anything right.

Vaccine privileges could start in weeks

NSW has recorded 452 new Covid infections and one death as the outbreak continues to wreak havoc across the state.

www.news.com.au

 

[1pet2_9]

In a nutshell...

Mandy Patinkin & Kathryn Grody & sometimes Gideon on Instagram: "Repost from @culturestrike Dr Tracy Ruscetti aka #SciTimeWithTracy is a biology lecturer and assistant director in the Public Health program at Santa Clara University with a PhD from L

35K likes, 1,395 comments - mandypatinkin on August 18, 2021: "Repost from @culturestrike Dr Tracy Ruscetti aka #SciTimeWithTracy is a biology lecturer and ass..."

www.instagram.com

 

[WIP]

Yeah, but I suspect that a lot of those doctors that recommend the vaccine, uh, have little ones at home and Wives. No matter their personal opinions about the issue they would be naturally swayed to agree in their profession...because either way they still have to have gainful employment so they can feed their families so want to please their superiors so they can please them and keep their job!

I can vouch for this. A close friend of mine is a CIO (Chief Information Officer) for a hospital system around Warsaw, WI. Back in the 2020 election he was a solid Trump supporter but he had to be ever mindful of what he said and to whom or it could cost him his job. For example, I was not a staunch Trump supporter but I did ride along with the guys during a Trump supporter boat motor cade on Rainy Lake in northern MN. He was very concerned and always watching to be sure he wasn't videotaped or photographed during the event.

Being the CIO, part of his responsibility is data acquisition and he monitors the Covid situation closely. He is not in favor of wearing masks and again, he had to be ever mindful of where he was and who he was with so not to be caught on camera that could be posted on social media showing him without his mask. It could have cost him his job because he is expected by his upper management to abide by their beliefs.

He was also required to take the vaccine whether he wanted to or not at the risk of his career.

 

[Edward]

I can vouch for this. A close friend of mine is a CIO (Chief Information Officer) for a hospital system around Warsaw, WI. Back in the 2020 election he was a solid Trump supporter but he had to be ever mindful of what he said and to whom or it could cost him his job. For example, I was not a staunch Trump supporter but I did ride along with the guys during a Trump supporter boat motor cade on Rainy Lake in northern MN. He was very concerned and always watching to be sure he wasn't videotaped or photographed during the event.

Being the CIO, part of his responsibility is data acquisition and he monitors the Covid situation closely. He is not in favor of wearing masks and again, he had to be ever mindful of where he was and who he was with so not to be caught on camera that could be posted on social media showing him without his mask. It could have cost him his job because he is expected by his upper management to abide by their beliefs.

He was also required to take the vaccine whether he wanted to or not at the risk of his career.

No surprise there huh? It seems to me that my suspicions are well founded. And where there's one, there's more. And all those other doctors have families too. It's what we do.

 

[WIP]

No surprise there huh? It seems to me that my suspicions are well founded. And where there's one, there's more. And all those other doctors have families too. It's what we do.

Imagine if for some reason, God forbid, that these experimental vaccines turned out to later cause serious problems and people were coerced/forced into taking them by employers or government entities. Would they be held accountable?

 

[jasonc]

Imagine if for some reason, God forbid, that these experimental vaccines turned out to later cause serious problems and people were coerced/forced into taking them by employers or government entities. Would they be held accountable?

hep and b shoits are required where i have and want to work

 

[WIP]

hep and b shoits are required where i have and want to work

Hep b vaccines have been around since 1986. The current Covid vaccines are experimental and only been around for about eight months. Essentially, the general population are the test cases.

Hep b vaccines are administered to prevent getting infected and spreading the virus. While there is evidence that they lower the risk of serious infection, the current Covid vaccines are not proven to actually prevent becoming infected or spreading the virus.

I don't see this as an apples to apples comparison. It may get there one day, God willing, but for now it's apples to oranges.

 

[jasonc]

Hep b vaccines have been around since 1986. The current Covid vaccines are experimental and only been around for about eight months. Essentially, the general population are the test cases.

Hep b vaccines are administered to prevent getting infected and spreading the virus. While there is evidence that they lower the risk of serious infection, the current Covid vaccines are not proven to actually prevent becoming infected or spreading the virus.

I don't see this as an apples to apples comparison. It may get there one day, God willing, but for now it's apples to oranges.

Is Hepatitis A Contagious? Symptoms, Transmission, Vaccine

Hepatitis A is an infection of the liver. Hepatitis A symptoms may include fever, nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, yellow skin (jaundice), dark urine, and clay-colored stools. Learn how it spreads.

www.medicinenet.com

hep a and b were like polio a dead virus ,you could actually get polio with the first vaccine .

your post said if after years you can get a contraindiciation from covid being new ,

until 1995 hep a had no vaccine . that's a dead virus . I get your point ,but you can say that with any vaccine .

a small percentage ,I fit it with the tetanus shot will get contrainductaions .it would be hypocritical for me to eschew the covid shot them during a bad thunder storm grab a metal rod walk in it working ,my job won't openly say they force me but they do it .
that was my point in part .should a sick person with no health insurance or sick days be made to simply stay
y home ?I have worked while puking throwing papers ,no sick days there.

you can't logically cry my rights over covid vaccine and then say well yes we shouldn't force employers to pay sick time or ban the people who like me had no other option.

there has to be a balence

 

[WIP]

My point is this. We are in a state of emergency with the Covid virus. For this reason, certain processes were augmented in such a way to allow for faster development and processing of the vaccines. According to the College of Physicians of Philadelphia here are the steps to developing a vaccine under normal conditions.

1. Exploratory Stage. This stage involves basic laboratory research and often lasts 2-4 years. I suppose one could argue that the mRNA vaccines had undergone this stage since they were working on this concept for a few years already.
2. Pre-Clinical Stage. Pre-clinical studies use tissue-culture or cell-culture systems and animal testing to assess the safety of the candidate vaccine and its immunogenicity, or ability to provoke an immune response. The pre-clinical stages often lasts 1-2 years and usually involves researchers in private industry.
3. IND Application. A sponsor, usually a private company, submits an application for an Investigational New Drug (IND) to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. The sponsor describes the manufacturing and testing processes, summarizes the laboratory reports, and describes the proposed study. An institutional review board, representing an institution where the clinical trial will be conducted, must approve the clinical protocol. The FDA has 30 days to approve the application.
4. Phase I Vaccine Trials. This first attempt to assess the candidate vaccine in humans involves a small group of adults, usually between 20-80 subjects. The goals of Phase 1 testing are to assess the safety of the candidate vaccine and to determine the type and extent of immune response that the vaccine provokes. The participants in these studies are carefully monitored and conditions are carefully controlled.
5. Phase II Vaccine Trials. A larger group of several hundred individuals participates in Phase II testing. Some of the individuals may belong to groups at risk of acquiring the disease. These trials are randomized and well controlled, and include a placebo group. The goals of Phase II testing are to study the candidate vaccine’s safety, immunogenicity, proposed doses, schedule of immunizations, and method of delivery.
6. Phase III Vaccine Trials. Successful Phase II candidate vaccines move on to larger trials, involving thousands to tens of thousands of people. These Phase III tests are randomized and double blind and involve the experimental vaccine being tested against a placebo. One Phase III goal is to assess vaccine safety in a large group of people. Vaccine efficacy is tested as well. These factors might include 1) Does the candidate vaccine prevent disease? 2) Does it prevent infection with the pathogen? 3) Does it lead to production of antibodies or other types of immune responses related to the pathogen?
7. Approval and Licensure. After a successful Phase III trial, the vaccine developer will submit a Biologics License Application to the FDA. Then the FDA will inspect the factory where the vaccine will be made and approve the labeling of the vaccine. After licensure, the FDA will continue to monitor the production of the vaccine, including inspecting facilities and reviewing the manufacturer’s tests of lots of vaccines for potency, safety and purity. The FDA has the right to conduct its own testing of manufacturers’ vaccines.

According to the FDA, Phase I trials typically take several months to complete. Phase II trials typically take several months to two years to complete. Phase III trials take typically take from one to four years to complete.

So, from R&D through approval a typical vaccine takes four years plus several months at minimum or up to 11 years plus several months worse case to achieve approval. With the Covid vaccines, time has not been allowed to thoroughly verify the vaccines according to normal processes. This is understood but....

It was decided that the risks from the virus outweighed the need for thorough testing so the vaccines were released for use under the emergency use authorization. This increases the risk potential from the vaccines themselves and for this reason, to force society to be vaccinated against their will is just plain wrong in my opinion.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

My point is this. We are in a state of emergency with the Covid virus. For this reason, certain processes were augmented in such a way to allow for faster development and processing of the vaccines. According to the College of Physicians of Philadelphia here are the steps to developing a vaccine under normal conditions.

1. Exploratory Stage. This stage involves basic laboratory research and often lasts 2-4 years. I suppose one could argue that the mRNA vaccines had undergone this stage since they were working on this concept for a few years already.
2. Pre-Clinical Stage. Pre-clinical studies use tissue-culture or cell-culture systems and animal testing to assess the safety of the candidate vaccine and its immunogenicity, or ability to provoke an immune response. The pre-clinical stages often lasts 1-2 years and usually involves researchers in private industry.
3. IND Application. A sponsor, usually a private company, submits an application for an Investigational New Drug (IND) to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. The sponsor describes the manufacturing and testing processes, summarizes the laboratory reports, and describes the proposed study. An institutional review board, representing an institution where the clinical trial will be conducted, must approve the clinical protocol. The FDA has 30 days to approve the application.
4. Phase I Vaccine Trials. This first attempt to assess the candidate vaccine in humans involves a small group of adults, usually between 20-80 subjects. The goals of Phase 1 testing are to assess the safety of the candidate vaccine and to determine the type and extent of immune response that the vaccine provokes. The participants in these studies are carefully monitored and conditions are carefully controlled.
5. Phase II Vaccine Trials. A larger group of several hundred individuals participates in Phase II testing. Some of the individuals may belong to groups at risk of acquiring the disease. These trials are randomized and well controlled, and include a placebo group. The goals of Phase II testing are to study the candidate vaccine’s safety, immunogenicity, proposed doses, schedule of immunizations, and method of delivery.
6. Phase III Vaccine Trials. Successful Phase II candidate vaccines move on to larger trials, involving thousands to tens of thousands of people. These Phase III tests are randomized and double blind and involve the experimental vaccine being tested against a placebo. One Phase III goal is to assess vaccine safety in a large group of people. Vaccine efficacy is tested as well. These factors might include 1) Does the candidate vaccine prevent disease? 2) Does it prevent infection with the pathogen? 3) Does it lead to production of antibodies or other types of immune responses related to the pathogen?
7. Approval and Licensure. After a successful Phase III trial, the vaccine developer will submit a Biologics License Application to the FDA. Then the FDA will inspect the factory where the vaccine will be made and approve the labeling of the vaccine. After licensure, the FDA will continue to monitor the production of the vaccine, including inspecting facilities and reviewing the manufacturer’s tests of lots of vaccines for potency, safety and purity. The FDA has the right to conduct its own testing of manufacturers’ vaccines.

According to the FDA, Phase I trials typically take several months to complete. Phase II trials typically take several months to two years to complete. Phase III trials take typically take from one to four years to complete.

So, from R&D through approval a typical vaccine takes four years plus several months at minimum or up to 11 years plus several months worse case to achieve approval. With the Covid vaccines, time has not been allowed to thoroughly verify the vaccines according to normal processes. This is understood but....

It was decided that the risks from the virus outweighed the need for thorough testing so the vaccines were released for use under the emergency use authorization. This increases the risk potential from the vaccines themselves and for this reason, to force society to be vaccinated against their will is just plain wrong in my opinion.

A quarantine works best but people got to live so that's out
My wife and I self-quarantine ourselves, most people don't have that option.