Was the “wing of abominations” in Daniel 9:27 a UFO powered by demons?

[Alfred Persson]

What is the “wing of abominations” in Daniel 9:27?

A literal rendering of the Hebrew text is, “And on the wing of abominations one who causes desolation [will come].”-Miller, S. R. (1994). Daniel (Vol. 18, pp. 272–273). Nashville: Broadman & Holman Publishers.

“Abominations” usually refers to idols (Dt. 29:16; Jer. 7:30; 16:18; 32:34; Ezek. 5:11; 7:20; 11:21; 20:7, 8, 30; 37:23), hence “wing of idols” doesn’t make sense. How can [plural] idols have just one [singular] wing? Hence interpreters ancient and modern remove the conflict, changing “wing” into “wings” or “abominations” into “abomination”, then interpret the verse.

However, when an explanation does not conform to fact it is no longer “true”. Rather than change God’s Word to fit a preferred interpretation, why not change the assumptions of the Interpreters and see if that “opens up” and “unseals” the words in this time of the End (Dan. 12:9)?

19 What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything?
20 Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. (1 Cor. 10:19-20 NKJ)

The plural šiqqûṣîm, ‘abominations’, refers to unspecified deities other than the LORD and their respective cult statues in Deut 29:16; Jer 7:30; 16:18; 32:34; Ezek 5:11; 7:20; 11:21; 20:7, 8, 30; 37:23.-Gruber, M. I. (1999). Abomination. In K. van der Toorn, B. Becking, & P. W. van der Horst (Eds.), Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible (2nd extensively rev. ed., p. 3). Leiden; Boston; Köln; Grand Rapids, MI; Cambridge: Brill; Eerdmans.

A “wing” infested with demons would fit the description of a “wing of abominations”. In Luke 8:30 A “Legion” of demons control a single man.

What did Daniel mean by “wing of abominations”? Recall he is seeing the future End Time when things exist that would “astonish” him” (Dan. 8:27), such as flying vehicles:

But from such passages as Deut. 32:11, Ex. 19:4, and Ps. 18:11, we perceive the sense in which wings are attributed to the שִׁקּוּצִים, the idolatrous objects. In the first of these passages (Deut. 32:11), wings, the wings of an eagle, are attributed to God, because He is the power which raises up Israel, and lifting it up, and carrying it throughout its history, guides it over the earth. In P. 18 wings are attributed to the wind, because the wind is contemplated as the power which carries out the will of God throughout the kingdom of nature. “Thus in this passage wings are attributed to the שִׁקּוּצִים, idol-objects, and to idolatry with its abominations, because that shall be the power which lifts upwards the destroyer and desolater, carries him, and moves with him over the earth to lay waste” (Klief.)-Keil, C. F., & Delitzsch, F. (1996). Commentary on the Old Testament (Vol. 9, pp. 739–740). Peabody, MA: Hendrickson.

Although Keil did change “wing” to “wings”, he ably connects the dots between the demons energizing idols and the “wing of abominations.”

Many reports of UFO/UAP craft comment on the lack of any visible means of propulsion. These reports do not necessarily conflict with Bob Lazar’s testimony of an “antimatter propulsion reactor” powering the ship he worked on. The facts surrounding UAP events imply the existence of both purely demonic entities (which violate all known laws of physics and appear and disappear with ease); and the deployment of physical objects that leave physical evidence and show up on radar etc., These transit into our Matrix through a “trans dimensional portal” (cp. 2 Ki. 2:11) into the TELEIOS (“heavenly places”) Satan and his corporeal angels inhabit (Eph. 6:12; Rev. 12:7-9).

The Desolator (Beast) commands this “flying abomination of desolation” to terrorize the earth desolating all who oppose him.

2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority.
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4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
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13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. (Rev. 13:2-13 NKJ)

His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power; He shall destroy fearfully, And shall prosper and thrive; He shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people. (Dan. 8:24 NKJ)

Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.” (Dan. 9:27 NKJ)

 

[Randy]

My understanding: The angel of the abyss, (currently imprisoned and released in the days of the sounding of the 5th trump), is just that a fallen angel. That angel is the beast. The false prophet who acts in the beasts behalf is a man. Who comes to power not by his own means. A master of deceit. It is the false prophet who stands in Jerusalem in the temple and sets up a abomination that causes desolation in the Holy place and calls himself God. Jesus spoke of this abomination in Matt 24 and stated when this is seen to flee to the mountains immediately as in don't even take time to go back to your homes to get your belongings.
Zach 14 has testimony of the mount of olives being split in two to make a way of escape to flee from the surrounding armies.

So I don't even consider UFO's. Just the Spiritual forces of evil and those in man that are captured by their lies.

The beast is successful in overpowering and killing Gods 2 witnesses in Jerusalem when nobody else could and that adds to the powerful delusion and lies of the beast. "Who is able to make war with him" Because God has granted the beast a term of rule of 42 months. After that term has ended the beast and his armies, (visible and invisible), will come to a sudden defeat and end at the coming of the Lord. REV 16:15; Zach 14:5;2thess2:8

 

[Alfred Persson]

My understanding: The angel of the abyss, (currently imprisoned and released in the days of the sounding of the 5th trump), is just that a fallen angel. That angel is the beast. The false prophet who acts in the beasts behalf is a man. Who comes to power not by his own means. A master of deceit. It is the false prophet who stands in Jerusalem in the temple and sets up a abomination that causes desolation in the Holy place and calls himself God. Jesus spoke of this abomination in Matt 24 and stated when this is seen to flee to the mountains immediately as in don't even take time to go back to your homes to get your belongings.
Zach 14 has testimony of the mount of olives being split in two to make a way of escape to flee from the surrounding armies.

So I don't even consider UFO's. Just the Spiritual forces of evil and those in man that are captured by their lies.

The beast is successful in overpowering and killing Gods 2 witnesses in Jerusalem when nobody else could and that adds to the powerful delusion and lies of the beast. "Who is able to make war with him" Because God has granted the beast a term of rule of 42 months. After that term has ended the beast and his armies, (visible and invisible), will come to a sudden defeat and end at the coming of the Lord. REV 16:15; Zach 14:5;2thess2:8

For now I comment only what I do "consider UFO" are in Daniels' Vision. Perhaps later we can discuss other things.

And I, Daniel, fainted and was sick for days; afterward I arose and went about the king’s business. I was astonished by the vision, but no one understood it. (Dan. 8:27 NKJ)

Unlike Daniel, modern Commentators see nothing astonishing. None of this causes them to be “faint and sick for days”. The “little Horn” is Antiochus most claim, as for the “army of God” and “stars”, these Israel’s saints, or priests or chief rulers. Nothing much to see here, some even believe Daniels vision is history pretending to be prophecy.

But Daniel is made faint and sick by this vision for days. Neither he nor any experts in Bible prophecy could understand it. This is even more surprising in Daniel’s case because God specially gifted Daniel to understand enigma and vision (Dan. 2:47; 4:8-9; 5:11-12).

Their different reaction is proof modern commentators do NOT understand the vision.

If it were about Antiochus and the Israelite people Daniel would be as calm and collected as they and everyone Daniel knew would have easily understood it.

8 Although I heard, I did not understand. Then I said, “My lord, what shall be the end of these things?”
9 And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up (05640 סָתַם catham) and sealed (02856 חָתַם chatham ) till the time (06256 עֵת `eth) of the end (07093 קֵץ qets).
10 “Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise (07919 שָׂכַל sakal) shall understand. (Dan. 12:4, 8-10 NKJ)

“Closed up” and “sealed” reappear in Daniel 12:9 with a change in meaning, now words in the vision are “obscure” and “mysterious” and there is no reference to literally “shutting up” and “sealing” the book to preserve its words from harm.

End time events “open up” and “unseal” what is “obscure” and “mysterious”, not “special revelation by God’s Holy Spirit.” “The wise (prudent, circumspect) shall understand”. Everyone “critically thinking” on the text and looking “to and fro” in End Time events will discern the meaning of the prophecy.

Until End Time events uncover the new meaning of old words, they remain obscure and mysterious. The prophet Daniel illustrates this perfectly. Daniel and his associates were experts in Jewish customs, its Temple and sacrifices including past interruptions of its Daily Sacrifices. Yet in prophecies which todays interpreters so confidently apply to Antiochus and Antichrist and a third Temple yet to be rebuilt, Daniel and his contemporaries don’t see any of that at all..

 

[Randy]

For now I comment only what I do "consider UFO" are in Daniels' Vision. Perhaps later we can discuss other things.

And I, Daniel, fainted and was sick for days; afterward I arose and went about the king’s business. I was astonished by the vision, but no one understood it. (Dan. 8:27 NKJ)

Unlike Daniel, modern Commentators see nothing astonishing. None of this causes them to be “faint and sick for days”. The “little Horn” is Antiochus most claim, as for the “army of God” and “stars”, these Israel’s saints, or priests or chief rulers. Nothing much to see here, some even believe Daniels vision is history pretending to be prophecy.

But Daniel is made faint and sick by this vision for days. Neither he nor any experts in Bible prophecy could understand it. This is even more surprising in Daniel’s case because God specially gifted Daniel to understand enigma and vision (Dan. 2:47; 4:8-9; 5:11-12).

Their different reaction is proof modern commentators do NOT understand the vision.

If it were about Antiochus and the Israelite people Daniel would be as calm and collected as they and everyone Daniel knew would have easily understood it.


“Closed up” and “sealed” reappear in Daniel 12:9 with a change in meaning, now words in the vision are “obscure” and “mysterious” and there is no reference to literally “shutting up” and “sealing” the book to preserve its words from harm.

End time events “open up” and “unseal” what is “obscure” and “mysterious”, not “special revelation by God’s Holy Spirit.” “The wise (prudent, circumspect) shall understand”. Everyone “critically thinking” on the text and looking “to and fro” in End Time events will discern the meaning of the prophecy.

Until End Time events uncover the new meaning of old words, they remain obscure and mysterious. The prophet Daniel illustrates this perfectly. Daniel and his associates were experts in Jewish customs, its Temple and sacrifices including past interruptions of its Daily Sacrifices. Yet in prophecies which todays interpreters so confidently apply to Antiochus and Antichrist and a third Temple yet to be rebuilt, Daniel and his contemporaries don’t see any of that at all..

Daniel was a prophet. The visions were from God and traverse to the distant future. Some events shown to Daniel are yet to be fulfilled more than 2500 years later as Daniel 12 speaks of the resurrections of the righteous and unrighteous.
Gabriel, an angel, was identified in Daniel as one sent to explain the visions that were given to him. It is was God.
Are you using the context of aliens when you state UFO's?

 

[Alfred Persson]

Daniel was a prophet. The visions were from God and traverse to the distant future. Some events shown to Daniel are yet to be fulfilled more than 2500 years later as Daniel 12 speaks of the resurrections of the righteous and unrighteous.
Gabriel, an angel, was identified in Daniel as one sent to explain the visions that were given to him. It is was God.
Are you using the context of aliens when you state UFO's?

Yes, Daniel is seeing the End Time, therefore it follows he saw things he didn't understand. Modern Technology for example, he would do his best to describe what he saw. If he saw a "flying wing" (aircraft), he would call it a "wing" like that of a bird. What else could he do?

My disagreement with modern commentary has to do with hermeneutics. They refuse to believe Daniel is actually seeing the future. Therefore, they won't translate or interpret his words to be describing anything that exists only in the End Time. They will insist he is referring to something that existed in his day.

If it weren't prophecy, that "originalist" interpretation is sound. But when its a vision of the end time, it follows he could be describing things that didn't exist in his day.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Daniel was a prophet. The visions were from God and traverse to the distant future. Some events shown to Daniel are yet to be fulfilled more than 2500 years later as Daniel 12 speaks of the resurrections of the righteous and unrighteous.
Gabriel, an angel, was identified in Daniel as one sent to explain the visions that were given to him. It is was God.
Are you using the context of aliens when you state UFO's?

Until we can edit posts, I have to put my "PS" in another reply. I don't believe in Aliens, I believe the Bible, that Satan can transform himself into a angel of light, that demons can disguise themselves as anything they want. Therefore, it seems obvious modern UFO deception is a strong delusion created by Satan to deceive the earth. From that conclusion, its relatively simply deduction to know what his plan is. I detail it on my site, EndTimeNews.net

 

[Randy]

Until we can edit posts, I have to put my "PS" in another reply. I don't believe in Aliens, I believe the Bible, that Satan can transform himself into a angel of light, that demons can disguise themselves as anything they want. Therefore, it seems obvious modern UFO deception is a strong delusion created by Satan to deceive the earth. From that conclusion, its relatively simply deduction to know what his plan is. I detail it on my site, EndTimeNews.net

Well that sounds better.
The world will see the false prophet.
The one who stands in the temple of God proclaiming himself to be God.
Deceptions and lies
And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people.

Those who take joy in the deaths of Gods two witnesses as given in Rev 11 will fall to his lies.
Power given to it from above for 42 months.
It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

I don't think the signs given to deceive the world will be UFO's. And the 2 witnesses must complete their testimony first before the great delusion and deceptions are allowed to take place. 1260 days as I read. Israel will be saved.
First they must be brought into the body of Christ.
Rev 11:13
At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

The mount of olives will be split in 2 to make a way of escape from the surrounding armies.
Then the armies of the beast will be destroyed by a coming of the Lord.
Zach 14
You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains

 

[Alfred Persson]

I don't think the signs given to deceive the world will be UFO's.

One important fact indicating it will involve UFOs, its already deluding people worldwide. Even causing some to fall away from the faith. And the "contactee" phenomena is growing rapidly.

 

[Randy]

One important fact indicating it will involve UFOs, its already deluding people worldwide. Even causing some to fall away from the faith. And the "contactee" phenomena is growing rapidly.

You have data that can back up such a statement?

 

[Alfred Persson]

You have data that can back up such a statement?

Google Stephen Greer, or "human initiated contact and communication with extraterrestrial life". Interesting article in the UK "Express" about results of using his "protocols"

Man tries to contact aliens... then 'awesome FLYING SAUCER appeared

THIS UFO was snapped on camera after a man allegedly tried to "make contact with aliens."

www.express.co.uk

While there was a report on "The UFO Contact Movement from the 1950's to the Present", it was published in 1995.

I couldn't find any reports the phenomena is decreasing, everything UFO connected seems to be growing in "believers."

Informative article at "Reasons to Believe"

Alien Encounters Fail the Test

The “contactee movement” arose in the early 1950s as a direct response to the flying saucer phenomenon. In the context of UFO phenomena, a contactee is an individual who claims to have direct and/or personal contact with alien entities (a close encounter of the third kind, CE-III) on a recurring...

reasons.org

 

[Randy]

Google Stephen Greer, or "human initiated contact and communication with extraterrestrial life". Interesting article in the UK "Express" about results of using his "protocols"

Man tries to contact aliens... then 'awesome FLYING SAUCER appeared

THIS UFO was snapped on camera after a man allegedly tried to "make contact with aliens."

www.express.co.uk

While there was a report on "The UFO Contact Movement from the 1950's to the Present", it was published in 1995.

I couldn't find any reports the phenomena is decreasing, everything UFO connected seems to be growing in "believers."

Informative article at "Reasons to Believe"

Alien Encounters Fail the Test

The “contactee movement” arose in the early 1950s as a direct response to the flying saucer phenomenon. In the context of UFO phenomena, a contactee is an individual who claims to have direct and/or personal contact with alien entities (a close encounter of the third kind, CE-III) on a recurring...

reasons.org

There is no creditable data that shows any are falling away from Christ from unidentified flying objects. You can find many articles, videos and books on UFO's. Usually there associated with belief in aliens.

The man of lawlessness will reveal himself by standing in the temple declaring himself God. That man will perform wonders and signs to deceive the blind. Even calling down fire from the sky. At that time God allows that powerful delusion to enter the world and deceive those who refuse to believe the truth and delight in wickedness so they will be condemned. But Gods last warning will be given first. 1260 days as stated in Rev 11. So if any can believe they will believe before the great deception. The rest of mankind as in those who take joy in the deaths of the 2 witnesses will fall to the lies of the beast so as to be condemned.

When someone states to me they were a Christian and they left the faith because they no longer believe in Jesus I ask them, "how can one have the Spirit of Christ in them and NOT know Jesus lives?"
No one can deceive those truly in Christ away from Jesus. They have the inner witness of the Spirit and they know Him.

Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all c ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”

 

[Alfred Persson]

There is no creditable data that shows any are falling away from Christ from unidentified flying objects. You can find many articles, videos and books on UFO's. Usually there associated with belief in aliens.

There is credible evidence. Minister Barry Downing a Presbyterian lost his faith when he was convinced Jesus was an ET. His book is on Amazon. Lots more have.

My thesis is the delusion snowballs when Aliens actually arrive, that is----When Michael kicks them out of heaven:

7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,
8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down (Rev. 12:7-10 NKJ)

BUT events will convince you I'm right. Or they will prove you right. Time will tell. Otherwise, much of what you say about the Antichrist I also believe. So we are in great agreement, just not about the important part UFOs play in the End Time Delusion.

 

[Randy]

There is credible evidence. Minister Barry Downing a Presbyterian lost his faith when he was convinced Jesus was an ET. His book is on Amazon. Lots more have.

My thesis is the delusion snowballs when Aliens actually arrive, that is----When Michael kicks them out of heaven:

7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,
8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down (Rev. 12:7-10 NKJ)

BUT events will convince you I'm right. Or they will prove you right. Time will tell. Otherwise, much of what you say about the Antichrist I also believe. So we are in great agreement, just not about the important part UFOs play in the End Time Delusion.

My belief is that Barry never belonged to nor knew Jesus. Jesus a ET? I guess that subject is made up to increase his book sales.

I can't see a day that I believe that UFO's are connected to end time signs.

 

[Alfred Persson]

My belief is that Barry never belonged to nor knew Jesus. Jesus a ET? I guess that subject is made up to increase his book sales.

I can't see a day that I believe that UFO's are connected to end time signs.

My first post made a great Argument his vision wasn't about normal things, if you found it unconvincing and scripture's warning Satan will be cast to the earth and deceive the world, nothing I can say now will convince you.

9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
12 "Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time." (Rev. 12:9-12 NKJ)

 

[Alfred Persson]

My first post made a great Argument his vision wasn't about normal things, if you found it unconvincing and scripture's warning Satan will be cast to the earth and deceive the world, nothing I can say now will convince you.

9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
12 "Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time." (Rev. 12:9-12 NKJ)

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon. (Rev. 16:13-16 NKJ)


Aliens are said to have a "frog like" appearance. Flying frogs from the mouth of the dragon, beast and false prophet symbolize the "demonic delusion" UFOs are real.
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And while under that strong delusion the earth will believe God is also and ET and can be defeated at Armageddon:

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (Matt. 24:29 NKJ)

12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.
13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.
14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.
15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains,
16 and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
17 "For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?" (Rev. 6:12-17 NKJ)

Satans spaceships fall to earth, then Armageddon. There is no escape.

 

[Randy]

My first post made a great Argument his vision wasn't about normal things, if you found it unconvincing and scripture's warning Satan will be cast to the earth and deceive the world, nothing I can say now will convince you.

9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
12 "Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time." (Rev. 12:9-12 NKJ)

I know and believe Satan was cast to the earth. I know and believe about the future beasts or man of lawlessness or anti christ and the powerful delusions allowed in the world at that TIME. I don't believe UFO's were foretold by God as signs given about all those end time events.

 

[Alfred Persson]

I know and believe Satan was cast to the earth. I know and believe about the future beasts or man of lawlessness or anti christ and the powerful delusions allowed in the world at that TIME. I don't believe UFO's were foretold by God as signs given about all those end time events.

The war in heaven is still future. The end time 7 year week hasn't started yet, it begins when the Church receives the Antichrist as Christ. That apostasy removes the Daily Sacrifice to God through Christ.

"And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away (05493 סוּר cuwr), and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. (Dan. 12:11 NKJ)

Apostasy (05493 סוּר cuwr) takes away the sacrifice: ἀποσταθῇ ἡ θυσία (Dan. 12:11 BGT)

 

[Randy]

The war in heaven is still future. The end time 7 year week hasn't started yet, it begins when the Church receives the Antichrist as Christ. That apostasy removes the Daily Sacrifice to God through Christ.

"And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away (05493 סוּר cuwr), and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. (Dan. 12:11 NKJ)

Apostasy (05493 סוּר cuwr) takes away the sacrifice: ἀποσταθῇ ἡ θυσία (Dan. 12:11 BGT)

I don't believe the war in heaven is future. Angels have already lost their place.

The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.” As in Gods "enemy"

18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”

 

[Alfred Persson]

I don't believe the war in heaven is future. Angels have already lost their place.

The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.” As in Gods "enemy"

18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”

In context Jesus says that in response to "even the demons submit", therefore its likely "figurative", referring to their fall from authority. However, it can be understood as you do. If you see UFOs in the sky, claiming to come in peace, remember I told you beforehand.

 

[Alfred Persson]

I don't believe the war in heaven is future. Angels have already lost their place.

The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.” As in Gods "enemy"

18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”

I should point out, unlike all other interpretations of Revelation, I harmonized Daniel, Christ, Paul and John, in a detailed list of events that will begin in the near future. If I am wrong, everyone will know it soon enough:

End Time Timeline of Events in the Last Days | End Time News, Today - Rapture Ready News

When the First Seal is opened (Rev. 6:2) the First Half of End-Time "Week" of 7 Years (= 84 months; 2,520 days) begins: A disclaimer: I am a Cessationist, a believer in the sufficiency of Scripture (sola scriptura). Not one word of this is "thus saith the Lord prophecy". I pray its correct so...

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