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[hawkman]

Wow, that's very few people. Very very few. Virtually every vaccine, including the ones that are mostly uncontroversial, has claimed a whole lot more lives than that.

I would have to say this is not the total of vaccine related deaths , hence the very few as you say .

Being scared about the vaccine and ignoring COVID's death toll is just irrational.

The only thing I fear is God , The I AM . Do you fear God T. E. Smith ?

The Faces of Vaccine Injury

 

[T. E. Smith]

I would have to say this is not the total of vaccine related deaths , hence the very few as you say .

And I'm sure more people have died from COVID than are recorded, especially in countries like North Korea.

The only thing I fear is God , The I AM . Do you fear God @T. E. Smith ?

The Faces of Vaccine Injury

I fear no god, gods, or God.

 

[jasonc]

Ah. Outlet to the ocean, then?

The loxahatchee canal ,river .should be near the county line and both do go into the lagoon at the Jupiter inlet .it's been a bit since I looked at that .there's a map video of that area showing changes from. The days of Flagler to present with it

 

[jasonc]

My wife's grandparents had a house on Jupiter Island. One year there, I was fascinated to see a manatee in the canal between Jupiter and Tequesta.

Enjoy ,sad what we have done .note us1 and the homesteads listed and the celestial RR .

 

[Free]

Death would be considered a "long range" effect I believe .

COVID VACCINE VICTIMS MEMORIAL WALL

While one death from a vaccine is tragic, we must look at all the data when considering those outcomes. First, correlation doesn’t equal causation. That is, just because someone died after getting vaccinated doesn’t mean the vaccine caused their death. Second, there have been over 11.7 billion doses of COVID vaccines given worldwide. Even 1 million deaths from it would be statistically insignificant, but any supposed deaths directly caused from the vaccines don’t get close to that number.

What this shows is that the vaccines are orders of magnitude safer than getting COVID. The vaccines help prevent serious illness, hospitalizations, and deaths.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784015

 

[jasonc]

Enjoy ,sad what we have done .note us1 and the homesteads listed and the celestial RR .

My uncle is a retired surveyor of west palm Beach county .they often know history well this can and has taken them back to Ponce de Leon and that era.in my county there are survey markers from the Spanish still in use or reference

 

[T. E. Smith]

hawkman my aunt, under 50, she downplayed COVID and even thought it might be just a government conspiracy. She refused to get a vaccine, saying it wasn't necessary and that she just trusted God. COVID hit her HARD. She went on oxygen and had long COVID, the symptoms continuing for months. Then she got it again and now has COVID lung, and is currently in the hospital on a breather. It's real, and dangerous, and refusing a vaccine will by no means protect you. It will do the opposite.

 

[T. E. Smith]

My dad's friend who is 34 with no prior major heath issues or immune system problems, he was in the hospital intensive care for two weeks and remained on oxygen for seven and has permanent major lung damage just from COVID. He also got no vaccine.

 

[jasonc]

My dad's friend who is 34 with no prior major heath issues or immune system problems, he was in the hospital intensive care for two weeks and remained on oxygen for seven and has permanent major lung damage just from COVID. He also got no vaccine.

I know my first shot couldn't have helped me when I got it as it was three days before covid but my lungs arent damaged

 

[hawkman]

@hawkman my aunt, under 50, she downplayed COVID and even thought it might be just a government conspiracy. She refused to get a vaccine, saying it wasn't necessary and that she just trusted God. COVID hit her HARD. She went on oxygen and had long COVID, the symptoms continuing for months. Then she got it again and now has COVID lung, and is currently in the hospital on a breather. It's real, and dangerous, and refusing a vaccine will by no means protect you. It will do the opposite.

My dad's friend who is 34 with no prior major heath issues or immune system problems, he was in the hospital intensive care for two weeks and remained on oxygen for seven and has permanent major lung damage just from COVID. He also got no vaccine.

There are things to do to prevent getting Covid , make sure your vitamin D levels are good , wash out your nasal passages daily ( this is right where they put the swab for a covid test ) , wash your hands , sanitize surfaces .
You need to do these things EVEN if you are covid vaccinated .

All these things I just mentioned also help prevent all kinds of things such as colds or the flu . I was out mixing the essential crowd and did not get anything until I think I may have had omicron which was like a slight cold with a nagging cough .

 

[T. E. Smith]

There are things to do to prevent getting Covid , make sure your vitamin D levels are good , wash out your nasal passages daily ( this is right where they put the swab for a covid test ) , wash your hands , sanitize surfaces .
You need to do these things EVEN if you are covid vaccinated .

All these things I just mentioned also help prevent all kinds of things such as colds or the flu . I was out mixing the essential crowd and did not get anything until I think I may have had omicron which was like a slight cold with a nagging cough .

Well yeah. All these nasty men going into the public bathrooms and urinating all over the seat, not flushing, never washing hands. It is disgusting.
By the way, some people ask rhetorically, "Where did the flu go?" With reference to how only COVID is in the news. The answer is obvious. All the restrictions slowed COVID, which is very contagious... But basically eradicated the flu, which is much less contagious.

 

[Northman]

In case any real people are reading and still haven't figured out this certain piece yet, when someone mentions the term "anecdotal evidence" what they are in essence trying to do is invalidate and disempower your testimony. They know full well that anecdotes are compiled and turned into data, they just want to "win" a conversation at the time.

 

[Free]

In case any real people are reading and still haven't figured out this certain piece yet, when someone mentions the term "anecdotal evidence" what they are in essence trying to do is invalidate and disempower your testimony.

Not at all. It could very well mean that they understand the problem with anecdotes. A good example is when 5G towers were put in place and then COVID started happening. People actually believed that 5G was causing COVID. Apart from the common sense and scientific problems with that, they failed to understand that correlation doesn't equal causation. That is a big problem with anecdotal evidence, even if on the surface it appears to be a common sense deduction.

They know full well that anecdotes are compiled and turned into data, they just want to "win" a conversation at the time.

Sure, they're data (hence why it's referred to as anecdotal evidence), but it's what that data tells us that is important. Anecdotal evidence doesn't necessarily say what people think it says. This is why it has to be examined closely and proper scientific studies done to try and rule out irrelevant factors and determine what is actually happening.

It isn't about winning a debate, it's about using proper methods of scientific inquiry so that we can obtain as good an understanding as possible. Anecdotal evidence, unless it has been proven scientifically, is generally limited in its usefulness.

 

[Northman]

A good example is when 5G towers were put in place and then COVID started happening. People actually believed that 5G was causing COVID.

This is a horrible example. 5G towers were being taken down in neighbourhoods, especially in Europe, before anything covid related was even announced. The retroactive application by the media that it was covid misinformation causing all the vandalism was itself a lie, as if we all of a sudden had no memory.

The primary issue is the piggybacking/relaying of information from what someone may think are "official" sources, and all participating in it are losing or have lost cred faster than the Hood went down.

I don't know why you keep trying to talk to me after all that wrong already.

 

[Free]

This is a horrible example. 5G towers were being taken down in neighbourhoods, especially in Europe, before anything covid related was even announced. The retroactive application by the media that it was covid misinformation causing all the vandalism was itself a lie, as if we all of a sudden had no memory.

The links showing various conspiracies link 5G with the novel coronavirus are many. The first one here is quite interesting:

https://theconversation.com/four-ex...5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-began-139137

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...e-latest-conspiracy-theories/?sh=122123786d41

The primary issue is the piggybacking/relaying of information from what someone may think are "official" sources, and all participating in it are losing or have lost cred faster than the Hood went down.

With the video in the OP being a prime example.

I don't know why you keep trying to talk to me after all that wrong already.

What do you mean?

 

[Barbarian]

By the way, some people ask rhetorically, "Where did the flu go?" With reference to how only COVID is in the news. The answer is obvious. All the restrictions slowed COVID, which is very contagious... But basically eradicated the flu, which is much less contagious.

This is right. It's mostly because flu is often spread by contact with contaminated surfaces, and because flu is not as easily spread by aerosols. So the stuff that helped limit COVID-19 was extremely effective against influenza viruses.

 

[Barbarian]

Death would be considered a "long range" effect I believe .

No. That's an acute effect, when it happens. The mode for all vaccines is that the antigen triggers an anaphylactic response, that drops blood pressure drastically, and causes swelling and lung obstruction. This happens within the first hour, almost always within the first fifteen minutes after the injection. As you know, there are often severe long-range effects from even mild COVID-19 infections, but no known long-term effects of vaccines.

 

[Northman]

The links showing various conspiracies link 5G with the novel coronavirus are many. The first one here is quite interesting:

https://theconversation.com/four-ex...5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-began-139137

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...e-latest-conspiracy-theories/?sh=122123786d41

Something in the Air

The coronavirus pandemic is sparking baseless theories about the dangers of 5G. But the fear that wireless technology is slowly killing us isn’t new—and it doesn’t appear to be going away anytime soon.

www.theatlantic.com

Links to non-covid related concerns of 5G, before and during the current facade. The last one has a mention, but the bulk of it has to do with the groups of scientists/doctors/engineers getting ignored when they plead for further testing before implementation.

My original statement was about how "anecdotal evidence" is being used in conversation here. I have no interest in you putting up the definition and trying to argue over it's proper use when you never use it properly.

 

[Free]

Something in the Air

The coronavirus pandemic is sparking baseless theories about the dangers of 5G. But the fear that wireless technology is slowly killing us isn’t new—and it doesn’t appear to be going away anytime soon.

www.theatlantic.com

Links to non-covid related concerns of 5G, before and during the current facade. The last one has a mention, but the bulk of it has to do with the groups of scientists/doctors/engineers getting ignored when they plead for further testing before implementation.

So, you either didn’t read the articles or read what you wanted to. One can only lead a horse to water.

My original statement was about how "anecdotal evidence" is being used in conversation here. I have no interest in you putting up the definition and trying to argue over it's proper use when you never use it properly.

Ok.

 

[Northman]

So, you either didn’t read the articles or read what you wanted to. One can only lead a horse to water.

I'm not here to do assigned reading. You don't and won't ever have that authority. The links were put up to display that someone claiming that the assault on 5G towers was covid conspiracy related is not on the level. Your checking these links isn't relevant.