Roe vs Wade Has Been Overturned

[Edward]

I denigrate the KJV. Is stating the inaccuracies of the KJV against the ToS?

I think he must have forgot about his sarcastic statement, your precious KJV. . ...Them's fighting words boy. You can not come on here and say such things, or speak to who is likely the most esteemed member of this forum in such a disrespectful manner as you have done. Bye.

 

[for_his_glory]

I denigrate the KJV. Is stating the inaccuracies of the KJV against the ToS?

If I could ban you from this thread I would. Edward and everyone else, please have no more contact with @T.E. Smith in this thread. Unfortunately I can not ban him or delete his post so if we just ignore him hopefully he will leave this thread.

 

[Edward]

If I could ban you from this thread I would. Edward and everyone else, please have no more contact with @T.E. Smith in this thread. Unfortunately I can not ban him or delete his post so if we just ignore him hopefully he will leave this thread.

Prolly is the best thing to do. Cuz he obviously is more concerned with causing division, distraction and confusion.

I thought about it, and I decided...not a good idea to learn my Christianity from a satanist. This was no stunning revelation of God, just common sense, lol.

 

[for_his_glory]

Oh is that it? Ok. I spoke with the OP and he says maybe so but it is entirely ok to talk in the womb, before the womb, so why not after the womb?

Not sure what you mean by talk in the womb, before the womb, so why not after the womb. You lost me here.

 

[Edward]

So anyway, back on topic....

I praise my Lord God Almighty that he has done these things and taken these measures to ensure that more of His children will live!

That, my Brothers and Sisters, is our topic.

 

[Edward]

Not sure what you mean by talk in the womb, before the womb, so why not after the womb. You lost me here.

Oh, I mean to talk about being in the womb, or before we were in the womb, or after the womb.

Life began. Life continues. y point was that God does not change, so he was like this before we were born. We did not have our beginning in the womb. We may or may not have been young when we were alive n heaven before we were born. They just erased our memory before we were we were born.

That's why younger children see Angels more easily than grown adults do. They just left Heaven and havent yet learned to "not see" yet.

 

[jasonc]

The ruling simply said ,the states decided to allow it or not .

Nothing more . In Florida I can take a girl to the clinic and she can get abortion .

In other states which don't have trigger bans .the same

 

[T. E. Smith]

Wow, that's too bad that you can't ban me. I'm really sorry. But don't worry. This conversation has been worse than fruitless. I'm walking away.

 

[for_his_glory]

Can you address my post where I copy?pasted from the concordance and bolded it's explanation of I knew thee as a phrase and how it was used. Almost every single usage of the term, indicates a personable interaction with an individual. Not just His plans for such an individual.

I thought I did address that when I said it is only our spirit being the breath of God who breathes His breath of life into us making us a living soul when we are born. I don't always make myself real clear at times, but what I was talking about within predestination are these verses below. Without scripture I can't believe our spirit stands and talks to the Lord in heaven before we are born. And I do not believe we choose who our parents would be as I would have picked my mom, but not my dad.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

 

[Edward]

The ruling simply said ,the states decided to allow it or not .

Nothing more . In Florida I can take a girl to the clinic and she can get abortion .

In other states which don't have trigger bans .the same

You are correct. And that is ok. It is a step in the right direction. I'm pretty sure that Ohio is a prolife state, and besides, my lifestyle would not ever bring up the question of should my girl go visit a clinic. And I'm comfortable with that.

I'm not sure what you mean by a trigger ban though. I am unfamiliar with that term. When you say trigger ban, a gun guy like me thinks, what they don't want me to have a 2.5 LB trigger on my gun? (Lol)

 

[for_his_glory]

Oh, I mean to talk about being in the womb, or before we were in the womb, or after the womb.

Life began. Life continues. y point was that God does not change, so he was like this before we were born. We did not have our beginning in the womb. We may or may not have been young when we were alive n heaven before we were born. They just erased our memory before we were we were born.

That's why younger children see Angels more easily than grown adults do. They just left Heaven and havent yet learned to "not see" yet.

Thank you for clarifying that for me. I can't believe the rest of what you said here as I only see it as man's theology unless it is proven by the word of God. That's just the way I am.

 

[jasonc]

You are correct. And that is ok. It is a step in the right direction. I'm pretty sure that Ohio is a prolife state, and besides, my lifestyle would not ever bring up the question of should my girl go visit a clinic. And I'm comfortable with that.

I'm not sure what you mean by a trigger ban though. I am unfamiliar with that term. When you say trigger ban, a gun guy like me thinks, what they don't want me to have a 2.5 LB trigger on my gun? (Lol)

State laws passed after roe that said if overturned this law becomes effective

 

[Edward]

Without scripture I can't believe our spirit stands and talks to the Lord in heaven before we are born. And I do not believe we choose who our parents would be as I would have picked my mom, but not my dad.

Why not? Why couldn't our spirit stand and speak with God before we were born?
Do we have the same spirit of God within us now as we did before we were "born". but had already been "predestined" into a life for our Lord?

The Holy Spirit, bears Witness with our spirit...right or not?
Yes. so is the spirit that same spirit of life that God foreknew that you speak of? I tink it would have to be.

And if the Hoy Spirit can bear Witness to our spirit, then our spirit it already a cognizant being. Our seed of life was conscious in Heaven and speaking with God Himself before we got born.

Is a seed a fruit tree? No of course not. It must be planted and it must grow. But is the seed alive as a seed?

You bet it is. The entire universe is conscious and signgs praises unto God the Creator. If this witness was not made then the very stones would cry out.

So...yeah. It isn't much of a stretch to see that, we were alive before. We did talk to Him. Our spirit. The very first seed of the life that we would become and are predestined to be in our completion! We are not finished until the great transformation that you know is coming. And we were alive in Heaven before we were born too.
There have been times when I thought, I didn't ask for this...

But how would I really know that for sure? Maybe the risk or difficulty level was such to carry such high rewards with it that perhaps I thought it would be worht it? It has not been given me to remember if that is so, but it sure seems likely. Considering that scripture states that...it is beyond our comprehension as an earth man, to grasp the fullness of our upcoming rewards.

So it is possible that you thought it would be worth it to you to do the scenario which has your dad in it.

Why is so far fetched to think that we lived in Heaven before we were born? You haven't exactly posted any scripture which supports the notion that our very first beginning was in our earth Mother's womb.

Not to my satisfactiion at least. Not in the face of many other scriptures in the Word. I can't see it.

 

[Edward]

State laws passed after roe that said if overturned this law becomes effective

Ok. So it's up to the States now. Agreed!

 

[Edward]

I thought I did address that when I said it is only our spirit being the breath of God who breathes His breath of life into us making us a living soul when we are born. I don't always make myself real clear at times, but what I was talking about within predestination are these verses below. Without scripture I can't believe our spirit stands and talks to the Lord in heaven before we are born. And I do not believe we choose who our parents would be as I would have picked my mom, but not my dad.

Romans 8:16
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:.../(KJV)

16 For the Holy Spirit speaks to us and tells our spirit that we are children of God...(NLV)

So if the Holy Spirit (while we are living on earth!), bears witness to our spirit and speaks to our spirit and tells us, that we are children of God...does that mean that our spirit is conscious and can speak? It certainly sounds like it does and the knee jerk comprehension of a man says, well of course he would have to be conscious...AND, considering God does not change, why would it have been different before we were born? Answer: it wasn't.

Our spirit speaks to us. Through our conscience. Surely you know this. If we are seated in Heavenly places right now with the Lord...is that us there with Him? Or it an unconscious breath of God which can't speak, it's just a breath? So if our spirit is seated with God right now, and His Holy Spirit talks to our spirit, doesn't it make sense that it was this same spirit that we have and own now, IS the same spirit that God knew before we were in the womb?

If we can be on earth doing our thing and seated in Heaven with the Lord right now and all at the same time (Because the Kingdom of God is at hand. It is spread out upon the earth inside of a spiritual realm which we are unable to see in the natural.), then it is entirely possible to have stood in spirit and spoke with the Lord before we were born of woman. And in fact it is highly probable that we were.

These truths are in your scriptures too.

 

[Edward]

State laws passed after roe that said if overturned this law becomes effective

Yes, I agree with you. It's up to the States now. It is not over. It was one battle that was won by the good guys, but there will be more. Now instead of one battle, it has turned into 50 battles, lol.

God does win the entire war though, I peeked at the last page.

 

[Free]

I'm sorry did I ask you anything? Or perhaps I was asking a Christian something? When I want an unbelievers opinion then I'll ask you for it.

That's a violation of the TOS.

1.4: Do not misquote or misrepresent another member. Do not state a negative opinion about a member's denomination, leaders, founders, or the veracity of a member's faith. (Exodus 20:16)

 

[Edward]

That's a violation of the TOS.

1.4: Do not misquote or misrepresent another member. Do not state a negative opinion about a member's denomination, leaders, founders, or the veracity of a member's faith. (Exodus 20:16)

I'm under the impression that you are not a Believer. Not a Christian. Is that not so? You received the Lord as your personal Savior? I apologize if I was wrong, but am I wrong?

 

[Free]

Free is an unbeliever? I didn't know that. Besides, you can't just ask a question and then say "Okay only this specific set of users can answer".

Anyone who disagrees with him is an unbeliever, especially when he is proven wrong. And you are right. This is an open forum, if a user wants to address a question to a specific user, then they should do it in PM. Otherwise, it's open for anyone to answer.

Look man, I'm not into debating this with a satanist. No interest. I said I don't need your twisted opinion because you wont walk away from it like I asked.

And you still wont. I tell you what. When I'm moved by the Spirit to ask you a question, I will ok? I wont forget you. But your presence and input is not needed at this time.

Said by a Satanist? As in, thou shalt not surely die...
No thanks!. You have nothing in kind with me. And you, a pronounced Satanist, have no business coming to a Christian website and denigrating the word of God. It is a violation of the ToS and I'll thank you to take your nonsense up the road.

You just said in another thread that "He teaches us to respect life and to walk in Love towards all mankind." That is clearly a lesson you have not learned. You would do well to stop posting for a year and go study what the Bible says about the types of vitriolic things you say to others in your posts.

 

[Free]

I'm under the impression that you are not a Believer. Not a Christian. Is that not so? You received the Lord as your personal Savior? I apologize if I was wrong, but am I wrong?

You know very well I am. We've been through this before, and even then it was needless. Just because you don't like being proven wrong doesn't mean you can call people unbelievers that you know are believers. Grow up. Seriously, you haven't changed in years.