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When I posted on this subject sometime back, most attacked my belief as heretical. However, I just discovered a Bethel University theologian James Beilby makes the same case in this book: Postmortem Opportunity: A Biblical and Theological Assessment of Salvation After Death.

In his preface he says;

Regarding Postmortem Opportunity, I make two claims. The first is that Christians are permitted to believe that God will provide a Postmortem Opportunity to the unevangelized. The language of permission, here, has two senses: (1) epistemological—there is nothing epistemically substandard or irrational about embracing the theory of Postmortem Opportunity—and (2) theological—there is nothing heretical or contrary to the clear teaching of Scripture about Postmortem Opportunity. My second claim is that, for synergists at least, the theory of Postmortem Opportunity is better than other answers to the question of the destiny of the unevangelized.-Beilby, James. Postmortem Opportunity (pp. XIV-XV). InterVarsity Press. Kindle Edition.

I just started his book, hope to discover additional arguments for my "argumentative essay" I posted on my site:


But this topic should get a new thread, given all the hot air about heresy, so untrue, so malicious, and so unchristian.

Lets discuss this fresh. Its a wonderful idea.


"Does the Bible teach there is a second chance in the afterlife to be saved by Jesus?" [1]

Some say we have only one life on earth to make our decision for or against God, that a "second chance" to repent and be saved doesn't exist. Two main texts are cited for this view: Hebrews 9:27 "it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment" which suggests the judgment concerns acts performed while alive; and the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31), which seems to rule out a "second chance" when the Rich Man is told " between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' (Lk. 16:26 NKJ).

The scriptures cited against the "second chance" have been taken out of context:

For example, the Rich Man is in Hades, which in the context of the New Testament is a temporary residence. Hades will be emptied out on Judgment Day (Rev. 20:13), it then "dies the second death" which symbolically means it will never return (Rev. 20:14). As the Rich Man is raised up out of Hades with everyone else (John 5:28-29; Rev. 20:13), the "great gulf" is not an impassible barrier "to the resurrection of life, and …the resurrection of condemnation." (Jn. 5:29 NKJ)

As for Hebrews 9:27, Christ said Christians "shall not come into judgment (2920 κρίσις krisis), but has passed from death into life" (Jn. 5:24 NKJ) [2]. That means the "judgment" (2920 κρίσις krisis) in Hebrews 9:27 is deciding what happens to non-Christians after they die, not Christians who have been saved by grace (Eph. 2:5-10).

"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment (2920 κρίσις krisis), but has passed from death into life. (Jn. 5:24 NKJ)
Therefore, the "judgment" in Hebrews 9:27 is "the second chance for salvation", because after this judgment Christ will appear: "To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time…for salvation." (Heb. 9:28 NKJ).

27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment (2920 κρίσις krisis),
28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. (Heb. 9:27-28 NKJ)
That fits the meaning of the Greek krisis, it denotes a "trial, contest, selection" where an "opinion or decision" is given one way or the other.-Strong's Concordance.

Some claim the Judgment in Hebrews 9:27 is the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20:11-15. However, the following incompatibilities make that impossible:

1.) Christ's "second appearance" is His Second coming, well before the Judgment of all the earth in Revelation 20:11-15.
2.) The Great White Throne Judgement judges sin, therefore Jesus' appearance there cannot be "apart from sin".
3.) Christ appears a second time to rapture/raise all the dead in Christ (1 Thess. 4:13-18; 5:1-4; 2 Thess. 2:1-4; 1 Cor. 5:5, 15:51-54; Rev. 14:12-16; 7:9, 14).
4.) The only judgment Christians face evaluates their service to Christ (2 Cor. 5:10; John 5:24-25).
5.) If no judgment occurs after men "die once", how is it anyone ends up in hell? Shouldn't everyone be in the same place?
6.) If Christians are among those being judged then they must wait for Christ's second appearance, "for salvation". That contradicts Christians are saved "to the uttermost" when they believed, by grace through faith in His Name( John 3:15-16, 36; 5:24-25; 20:31; Eph. 2:5-8; 2 Tim. 1:9; Heb. 7:25. )

These incompatible properties prove beyond all reasonable doubt the judgment in Hebrews 9:27 cannot be the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 10:11-15. Everything is different about them.

Christians must be excluded because they were saved by grace through faith in Jesus while alive, and do not come under a krisis judgment, whether immediately after death or sometime in the future at the Great White Throne Judgment (John 5:24-25).

The exclusion of believing Christians implies what is judged is belief or non-belief in Christ, that alone exempted Christians from judgment. The "Judgment" in Hebrews 9:27 is a "krisis trial" to decide whether someone will become one of "the many" "believers" Christ died for. Christ "was offered once" "at the end of the ages" (Heb. 9:26) so all who died without Christ, including the generations who lived and died " since "the foundation of the world", would be eligible for His sacrifice for sin. As John put it, Christ is the sacrificial "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:8) so all born into it are covered by His Sacrifice. Christ was offered once "at the end of the ages…to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself…to bear the sins of many". [Having chosen life in Christ] they now "eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time…for salvation (Heb. 9:26, 28 NKJ).
 
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There was a one time 2nd chance when Jesus preached in the temporary captivity.

It appears the final judgement comes from the books (actions and the book of life).

I will listen from time to time.

Mississippi redneck
eddif
 
There was a one time 2nd chance when Jesus preached in the temporary captivity.

It appears the final judgement comes from the books (actions and the book of life).

I will listen from time to time.

Mississippi redneck
eddif
I don't understand, could you clarify? Explain what you mean by "preached in temporary captivity", are you referring to the "spirits in prison" in 1 Peter 3:18-22?

As for the "books", this is my take on it. I get it from 1st century ideas about Judgment Day among the Jews.

In the days of Christ, the School of Hillel taught the Old Testament scriptures revealed a merciful God who forgave repentant sinners, even those in Hades. Many Pharisees like Paul were of this school. They believed Three classes of People on Judgment Day: The Righteous, the Wicked, and the "Middling" or "To be determined" and this required the existence of multiple "books":

[I.15 A] Said R. Kruspedai said R. Yohanan, "Three books are opened [by God] on the New Year: one for the thoroughly wicked, one for the thoroughly righteous, and one for middling [people].
"The thoroughly righteous immediately are inscribed and sealed for [continued] life.
[C] "The thoroughly wicked immediately are inscribed and sealed for death.
[D] "Middling [people] are left hanging from New Year until the Day of Atonement.
[E] "If they [are found to have] merit, they are inscribed for life.
[F] "If they [are found] not [to have] merit, they are inscribed for death."
[G] Said R. Abin, "What is the Scriptural [foundation for this]? [Ps. 69:29 states]: 'Let them be blotted out of the book of the living. Let them not be inscribed among the righteous.' 'Let them be blotted out of the book'-this refers to the book of the thoroughly wicked. '[… of the] living'-this refers to the book of the righteous. 'Let them not be inscribed among the righteous'-this refers to the book of middling [people]."-Neusner, J. (2011). The Babylonian Talmud: A Translation and Commentary (Vol. 6b, p. 83). Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers.

The multiple books implies the Elect are not the only Persons saved on Judgment Day.

The names of the Elect are in the Book of Life (Phil. 4:3; Rev. 13:8; 17:8) but other names in it cannot be "the Elect" because they can be blotted out (Rev. 3:5; Exod. 32:32; Ps. 69:28) or written in (Ps. 69:28; 87:6; Dan. 12:1; Mal. 3:16).

That requires other books exist, one book of names and deeds for those who will be written into the book of life, and another book of names and their deeds for those who will be blotted out, so they can be properly listed for judgment.

And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. (Rev. 20:12 NKJ)
The existence of another class of people standing before God on Judgment Day completely upends all binary Eschatology.

Note the parallels:

Three groups exist at this present time:
1.) Those who believe and have passed from death in to life (John 5:24-25);
2.) Gospel preached to dead who then live according to God in the Spirit (1 Pet. 4:6);
3.) The wicked guilty of eternal sin (Mk. 3:29);

Three groups exist during judgment of Sheep and the Goats:
1.) Christ’s Brethren already given eternal life;
2.) Sheep or middling people who receive eternal life;
3.) Goats or Wicked receive death;

Three groups exist during Judgment Day when the books of each group are opened (Rev. 20:12):
1.) The book of life for those inscribed for eternal life;
2.) The book of the middling people whose good works by God’s grace permit their names be written in the book of life just as happened to the Sheep at Christ’s return;
3.) The book of those who practiced wicked works so their names are not written in the book of life (Rev. 20:15).
 
I don't understand, could you clarify? Explain what you mean by "preached in temporary captivity", are you referring to the "spirits in prison" in 1 Peter 3:18-22?

As for the "books", this is my take on it. I get it from 1st century ideas about Judgment Day among the Jews.

In the days of Christ, the School of Hillel taught the Old Testament scriptures revealed a merciful God who forgave repentant sinners, even those in Hades. Many Pharisees like Paul were of this school. They believed Three classes of People on Judgment Day: The Righteous, the Wicked, and the "Middling" or "To be determined" and this required the existence of multiple "books":



The multiple books implies the Elect are not the only Persons saved on Judgment Day.


The names of the Elect are in the Book of Life (Phil. 4:3; Rev. 13:8; 17:8) but other names in it cannot be "the Elect" because they can be blotted out (Rev. 3:5; Exod. 32:32; Ps. 69:28) or written in (Ps. 69:28; 87:6; Dan. 12:1; Mal. 3:16).

That requires other books exist, one book of names and deeds for those who will be written into the book of life, and another book of names and their deeds for those who will be blotted out, so they can be properly listed for judgment.


The existence of another class of people standing before God on Judgment Day completely upends all binary Eschatology.

Note the parallels:

Three groups exist at this present time:
1.) Those who believe and have passed from death in to life (John 5:24-25);
2.) Gospel preached to dead who then live according to God in the Spirit (1 Pet. 4:6);
3.) The wicked guilty of eternal sin (Mk. 3:29);

Three groups exist during judgment of Sheep and the Goats:
1.) Christ’s Brethren already given eternal life;
2.) Sheep or middling people who receive eternal life;
3.) Goats or Wicked receive death;

Three groups exist during Judgment Day when the books of each group are opened (Rev. 20:12):
1.) The book of life for those inscribed for eternal life;
2.) The book of the middling people whose good works by God’s grace permit their names be written in the book of life just as happened to the Sheep at Christ’s return;
3.) The book of those who practiced wicked works so their names are not written in the book of life (Rev. 20:15).
Revelation 20:12 kjv
12. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

According to their works. That may include the secrets of the heart.

Not books written about opinions (gentile concordances or Jewish traditions).

Rich man and Lazarus for temporary separation from life (grave) Abrahams bosom
and torment areas. I tend toward the preaching was done in Abraham’s Bosom.

I am not intending on being very active in this thread.


eddif
 
When I posted on this subject sometime back, most attacked my belief as heretical. However, I just discovered a Bethel University theologian James Beilby makes the same case in this book: Postmortem Opportunity: A Biblical and Theological Assessment of Salvation After Death.

In his preface he says;

Regarding Postmortem Opportunity, I make two claims. The first is that Christians are permitted to believe that God will provide a Postmortem Opportunity to the unevangelized. The language of permission, here, has two senses: (1) epistemological—there is nothing epistemically substandard or irrational about embracing the theory of Postmortem Opportunity—and (2) theological—there is nothing heretical or contrary to the clear teaching of Scripture about Postmortem Opportunity. My second claim is that, for synergists at least, the theory of Postmortem Opportunity is better than other answers to the question of the destiny of the unevangelized.-Beilby, James. Postmortem Opportunity (pp. XIV-XV). InterVarsity Press. Kindle Edition.

I just started his book, hope to discover additional arguments for my "argumentative essay" I posted on my site:


But this topic should get a new thread, given all the hot air about heresy, so untrue, so malicious, and so unchristian.

Lets discuss this fresh. Its a wonderful idea.


"Does the Bible teach there is a second chance in the afterlife to be saved by Jesus?" [1]

Some say we have only one life on earth to make our decision for or against God, that a "second chance" to repent and be saved doesn't exist. Two main texts are cited for this view: Hebrews 9:27 "it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment" which suggests the judgment concerns acts performed while alive; and the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31), which seems to rule out a "second chance" when the Rich Man is told " between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' (Lk. 16:26 NKJ).

The scriptures cited against the "second chance" have been taken out of context:

For example, the Rich Man is in Hades, which in the context of the New Testament is a temporary residence. Hades will be emptied out on Judgment Day (Rev. 20:13), it then "dies the second death" which symbolically means it will never return (Rev. 20:14). As the Rich Man is raised up out of Hades with everyone else (John 5:28-29; Rev. 20:13), the "great gulf" is not an impassible barrier "to the resurrection of life, and …the resurrection of condemnation." (Jn. 5:29 NKJ)

As for Hebrews 9:27, Christ said Christians "shall not come into judgment (2920 κρίσις krisis), but has passed from death into life" (Jn. 5:24 NKJ) [2]. That means the "judgment" (2920 κρίσις krisis) in Hebrews 9:27 is deciding what happens to non-Christians after they die, not Christians who have been saved by grace (Eph. 2:5-10).


Therefore, the "judgment" in Hebrews 9:27 is "the second chance for salvation", because after this judgment Christ will appear: "To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time…for salvation." (Heb. 9:28 NKJ).


That fits the meaning of the Greek krisis, it denotes a "trial, contest, selection" where an "opinion or decision" is given one way or the other.-Strong's Concordance.

Some claim the Judgment in Hebrews 9:27 is the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20:11-15. However, the following incompatibilities make that impossible:

1.) Christ's "second appearance" is His Second coming, well before the Judgment of all the earth in Revelation 20:11-15.
2.) The Great White Throne Judgement judges sin, therefore Jesus' appearance there cannot be "apart from sin".
3.) Christ appears a second time to rapture/raise all the dead in Christ (1 Thess. 4:13-18; 5:1-4; 2 Thess. 2:1-4; 1 Cor. 5:5, 15:51-54; Rev. 14:12-16; 7:9, 14).
4.) The only judgment Christians face evaluates their service to Christ (2 Cor. 5:10; John 5:24-25).
5.) If no judgment occurs after men "die once", how is it anyone ends up in hell? Shouldn't everyone be in the same place?
6.) If Christians are among those being judged then they must wait for Christ's second appearance, "for salvation". That contradicts Christians are saved "to the uttermost" when they believed, by grace through faith in His Name( John 3:15-16, 36; 5:24-25; 20:31; Eph. 2:5-8; 2 Tim. 1:9; Heb. 7:25. )

These incompatible properties prove beyond all reasonable doubt the judgment in Hebrews 9:27 cannot be the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 10:11-15. Everything is different about them.

Christians must be excluded because they were saved by grace through faith in Jesus while alive, and do not come under a krisis judgment, whether immediately after death or sometime in the future at the Great White Throne Judgment (John 5:24-25).

The exclusion of believing Christians implies what is judged is belief or non-belief in Christ, that alone exempted Christians from judgment. The "Judgment" in Hebrews 9:27 is a "krisis trial" to decide whether someone will become one of "the many" "believers" Christ died for. Christ "was offered once" "at the end of the ages" (Heb. 9:26) so all who died without Christ, including the generations who lived and died " since "the foundation of the world", would be eligible for His sacrifice for sin. As John put it, Christ is the sacrificial "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:8) so all born into it are covered by His Sacrifice. Christ was offered once "at the end of the ages…to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself…to bear the sins of many". [Having chosen life in Christ] they now "eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time…for salvation (Heb. 9:26, 28 NKJ).
If you can't get past Luke 16:19-31 why try to get around it?
Especially verse 26.
 
If you can't get past Luke 16:19-31 why try to get around it?
Especially verse 26.

Didn't go around anything, you didn't read my post:

The scriptures cited against the “second chance” have been taken out of context:

For example, the Rich Man is in Hades, which in the context of the New Testament is a temporary residence. Hades will be emptied out on Judgment Day (Rev. 20:13), it then “dies the second death” which symbolically means it will never return (Rev. 20:14). As the Rich Man is raised up out of Hades with everyone else (John 5:28-29; Rev. 20:13), the “great gulf” is not an impassible barrier “to the resurrection of life, and …the resurrection of condemnation.” (Jn. 5:29 NKJ)

I treated the Rich man and Lazarus "parable" very extensively, but you have to read it to know that.
 
Didn't go around anything, you didn't read my post:

The scriptures cited against the “second chance” have been taken out of context:

For example, the Rich Man is in Hades, which in the context of the New Testament is a temporary residence. Hades will be emptied out on Judgment Day (Rev. 20:13), it then “dies the second death” which symbolically means it will never return (Rev. 20:14). As the Rich Man is raised up out of Hades with everyone else (John 5:28-29; Rev. 20:13), the “great gulf” is not an impassible barrier “to the resurrection of life, and …the resurrection of condemnation.” (Jn. 5:29 NKJ)

I treated the Rich man and Lazarus "parable" very extensively, but you have to read it to know that.
QUOTE: the “great gulf” is not an impassible barrier “to the resurrection of life, and …the resurrection of condemnation.”

RESPONSE: You're contradicting Scripture. If Abraham says no one can come from there to here where he's at and vice-versa then NO ONE can pass over to either side.
 
QUOTE: the “great gulf” is not an impassible barrier “to the resurrection of life, and …the resurrection of condemnation.”

RESPONSE: You're contradicting Scripture. If Abraham says no one can come from there to here where he's at and vice-versa then NO ONE can pass over to either side.
Hades with its "great gulf" are cast into the lake of fire AFTER all the dead are raised up:

13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
(Rev. 20:13-14 NKJ)

To illustrate, a prison door prevents you from leaving the county jail. One day they release you, and destroy the county jail.

So the door was only a temporary barrier preventing you from leaving.

So it is with the "great gulf", it doesn't prevent the resurrection out of Hades.
 
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Some say we have only one life on earth to make our decision for or against God, that a "second chance" to repent and be saved doesn't exist.
If you have had an opportunity of salvation through Jesus Christ when you are alive and do not become born again there will be no second chance .

So what of all the other people down through the ages that maybe did not have a opportunity of salvation ? God will do what he deems best . I leave in God's hands and see NO reason to speculate on a second chance .
 
Hades with its "great gulf" are cast into the lake of fire AFTER all the dead are raised up:

13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
(Rev. 20:13-14 NKJ)

To illustrate, a prison door prevents you from leaving the county jail. One day they release you, and destroy the county jail.

So the door was only a temporary barrier preventing you from leaving.

So it is with the "great gulf", it doesn't prevent the resurrection out of Hades.
The "great gulf" separates the two parts of Hades from each other.
The place of torment is separate from the place of rest.

But where does it say that when they come out of Hades do they get to choose the New Earth or Lake of Fire?
Hades holds souls until the end. Where does the choice to switch sides get mentioned in Scripture?
 
The "great gulf" separates the two parts of Hades from each other.
The place of torment is separate from the place of rest.

But where does it say that when they come out of Hades do they get to choose the New Earth or Lake of Fire?
Hades holds souls until the end. Where does the choice to switch sides get mentioned in Scripture?
Hades holds souls until Judgment Day.

Christ said the dead in Hades (the grave) will hear His voice and all who paid heed will rise to a resurrection of life:

25 "Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.
26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,
27 "and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
28 "Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
29 "and come forth-- those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
(Jn. 5:25-29 NKJ)

Its in the symbolism of the books. Multiple books are opened, those granted mercy (like the Sheep were at Christ's coming, even though they weren't Christians (Mt. 25:30-40) have their names transferred from one of the books to the book of life:

That explains the multiple books. The names of the Elect are in the Book of Life (Phil. 4:3; Rev. 13:8; 17:8) but other names can be added to "the Elect" because they can be blotted out (Rev. 3:5; Exod. 32:32; Ps. 69:28) or written in (Ps. 69:28; 87:6; Dan. 12:1; Mal. 3:16).

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
(Rev. 20:12-15 NKJ)
 
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QUOTE: the “great gulf” is not an impassible barrier “to the resurrection of life, and …the resurrection of condemnation.”

RESPONSE: You're contradicting Scripture. If Abraham says no one can come from there to here where he's at and vice-versa then NO ONE can pass over to either side.
Where was Abraham when he said that? In the upper level of Sheol, Hades. He also left Hades, via resurrection from the dead. So the "uncrossable gulf" didn't prevent him from leaving either.

I find it amazing the obvious isn't immediately comprehended.

On Judgment Day people come out of Hades, the "uncrossable gulf" does not stop God from resurrecting them:

13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
(Rev. 20:12-15 NKJ)

Hades is temporary, its purpose for existence ends on Judgment Day. It holds the souls of good and bad until Judgment Day, then there is a resurrection, Hades is emptied out. It "dies the second death", meaning it will never return.
 
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Hades holds souls until Judgment Day.

Christ said the dead in Hades (the grave) will hear His voice and all who paid heed will rise to a resurrection of life:

25 "Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.
26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,
27 "and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
28 "Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
29 "and come forth-- those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
(Jn. 5:25-29 NKJ)

Its in the symbolism of the books. Multiple books are opened, those granted mercy (like the Sheep were at Christ's coming, even though they weren't Christians (Mt. 25:30-40) have their names transferred from one of the books to the book of life:
I don't see the transferring of names in the Bible. Where is this reference?

That explains the multiple books. The names of the Elect are in the Book of Life (Phil. 4:3; Rev. 13:8; 17:8) but other names can be added to "the Elect" because they can be blotted out (Rev. 3:5; Exod. 32:32; Ps. 69:28) or written in (Ps. 69:28; 87:6; Dan. 12:1; Mal. 3:16).

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
(Rev. 20:12-15 NKJ)
Nothing here says that the names are moved from one book to another.

So why is this a thing?
Who do you think will get this second chance?
Will Steven Hawking or Hitler be able to take advantage of this offer?
Where do you think the line is drawn between those who get the second chance and those who don't?
Or is everyone offered the chance? Who would not take that offer?
 
I don't see the transferring of names in the Bible. Where is this reference?


Nothing here says that the names are moved from one book to another.

So why is this a thing?
Who do you think will get this second chance?
Will Steven Hawking or Hitler be able to take advantage of this offer?
Where do you think the line is drawn between those who get the second chance and those who don't?
Or is everyone offered the chance? Who would not take that offer?
Inferential logic. The books are there because they do something. "And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. (Rev. 20:12 NKJ)"

Books also have names in them. Names get botted out and written Christ says:

garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy.
5 "He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
6 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."'
(Rev. 3:4-6 NKJ)

No willfully wicked, or enemy of God gets a second chance. Only those "pseudo-evangelized" or ignorant get a chance to repent and believe in Christ for salvation.

Its impossible to "fake righteousness" once stripped of the body and a mere "shade" of one's former self, in hell. No one can fool God. The children of the Devil will refuse salvation, they are evil. To them, heaven would be hell.
 
Inferential logic. The books are there because they do something. "And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. (Rev. 20:12 NKJ)"

Books also have names in them. Names get botted out and written Christ says:
One book is said to have names and the others deeds.
garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy.
5 "He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
6 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."'
(Rev. 3:4-6 NKJ)
Blotted out is not transferring from one to another.
No willfully wicked, or enemy of God gets a second chance. Only those "pseudo-evangelized" or ignorant get a chance to repent and believe in Christ for salvation.

Its impossible to "fake righteousness" once stripped of the body and a mere "shade" of one's former self, in hell. No one can fool God. The children of the Devil will refuse salvation, they are evil. To them, heaven would be hell.
Where do you get this idea from?
References please.
 
Hades with its "great gulf" are cast into the lake of fire AFTER all the dead are raised up:

13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
(Rev. 20:13-14 NKJ)

To illustrate, a prison door prevents you from leaving the county jail. One day they release you, and destroy the county jail.

So the door was only a temporary barrier preventing you from leaving.

So it is with the "great gulf", it doesn't prevent the resurrection out of Hades.
Once a person dies there is no second chance.
 
One book is said to have names and the others deeds.

Blotted out is not transferring from one to another.

Where do you get this idea from?
References please.
Some can't infer from symbols their meaning. Sorry I can't help you.

"Inference" is often found in scripture. For example, Jesus proved the resurrection of the body by inference, saying:

26 "But concerning the dead, that they rise, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the burning bush passage, how God spoke to him, saying,`I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob '?
27 "He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. You are therefore greatly mistaken." (Mk. 12:26-27 NKJ)

The premise proving the resurrection of the body is NOT explicitly stated, one must "infer" from the scene of the patriarchs alive standing before God, how THAT proves the resurrection of the body, otherwise Christ's words only prove life after death.

Because the Patriarchs are alive standing before God in full fellowship with Him, God cannot permit they forever remain disembodied as that would not fulfill His covenant they and their seed would live physically in the promised land with Him forever (Gen. 17:7-8; 26:3; 28:13).

The Jews hearing Christ's proof believed He answered them "well"

And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well… (Mk. 12:26-28 KJV)

So I believe I answered you well, pointing to the different books which are there performing a function.

That you refuse the "implied premise" I inferred from what these books do, is not something I can fix. Refusing to "infer" from symbols what they imply, is a self-imposed handicap to learning.
 
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So you have no references to provide.
Too bad, I was looking forward to hearing you references.
The OP cites the texts proving people rise from the grave to life. Here is a main reference again, with a bit more context:

24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
25 "Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.
26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,
27 "and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
28 "Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
29 "and come forth-- those who have done good, to the resurrection of life,
and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. (Jn. 5:24-29 NKJ)
 

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