You quoted him, You tell me.
"Well to prove I am willing to at least try... I got this answer from a source online."
"Old English...."
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Postmortem Opportunity aka Is there a second chance in the afterlife for those who never heard?
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"Well to prove I am willing to at least try... I got this answer from a source online."
"Old English...."
Not a him.
And why souls.i be required to answer a question from an anti Christian source?
Why don't you just ask and not quote from some anti-christian?
I quoted the Bible after my words in Bold, these are not anti-Christians.
The first is Jesus, then Peter, then Paul. None are anti-Christians.
Jesus is the only way to salvation, for all born into this fallen realm:
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. (Jn. 14:6 NKJ)-Jesus
"Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12 NKJ) -Peter
5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, (1 Tim. 2:5-6 NKJ) -Paul
In parenthesis after every quote is a reference that gives (Bible Book Name. Chapter:Verse).
NKJ = New King James [Bible].
Hope that helps.
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Not who I was talking about and you know it.
Porphyry: Against Christianity... does not sound very Biblical.
Porphyry wasn't Christian, and his polemic against Christianity is not scriptural.
Po·lem·ic
noun
- 1.a speech or piece of writing expressing a strongly critical attack on ...
If you need any additional rephrasing I will be glad to help.
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So why did you refuse to rephrase the question?
I asked if you could rephrase and your response was "no". Why the sudden change of heart?
And if your friends question is not scriptural but you demand I respond to it... why would you demand scripture in response?
I just did. But here it is again, and its not an antichristian source. Its called the Bible, or "Holy Scripture"
Jesus is the only way to salvation, for all born into this fallen realm:
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. (Jn. 14:6 NKJ)-Jesus
"Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12 NKJ) -Peter
5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, (1 Tim. 2:5-6 NKJ) -Paul
In parenthesis after every quote is a reference that gives (Bible Book Name. Chapter:Verse).
NKJ = New King James [Bible] [Holy Scripture] A Christian source.
Hope that helps.
I didn't see a question in your post.
How can I answer a question that is not asked?
I've been trying to rephrase to help you understand "old English".
In post #22
I asked how you would respond to Porphyry's polemic against Christianity, suddenly you needed the most elementary things "rephrased".
Since then, I've been toiling like Sisyphus to aid you every way I can:
This is what I asked you in "old English" in Post #22
I'm curious, how would you answer Porphyry...:
If Christ declares Himself to be the Way of salvation, the Grace and the Truth, and affirms that in Him alone, and only to souls believing in Him, is the way of return to God, what has become of men who lived in the many centuries before Christ came? . . . What, then, has become of such an innumerable multitude of souls, who were in no wise blameworthy, seeing that He in whom alone saving faith can be exercised had not yet favored men with His advent?-PORPHYRY, AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS
Copy past the precise words you need "rephrased", I'll be glad to help. For example, Christ is the founder of Christianity and we believe He is the only way to be saved. Porphyry used that fact against Christianity.... If you need me to explain further, I'll be glad to help.
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You still have not asked a question.I've been trying to rephrase to help you understand "old English".
When asked how you would respond to Porphyry's polemic against Christianity, suddenly you needed the most elementary things "rephrased".
Since then, I've been toiling like Sisyphus to aid you every way I can:
A question can be recognized by a question mark at the end.
Maybe instead of listening to first millennium dudes... you could listen to the person you are talking to.
I have asked many times for you to ask me something... and you have so far refused.
In your own words... ask me a question.I've been trying to rephrase to help you understand "old English".
In post #22
I asked how you would respond to Porphyry's polemic against Christianity, suddenly you needed the most elementary things "rephrased".
Since then, I've been toiling like Sisyphus to aid you every way I can:
This is what I asked you in "old English" in Post #22
I'm curious, how would you answer Porphyry...:
If Christ declares Himself to be the Way of salvation, the Grace and the Truth, and affirms that in Him alone, and only to souls believing in Him, is the way of return to God, what has become of men who lived in the many centuries before Christ came? . . . What, then, has become of such an innumerable multitude of souls, who were in no wise blameworthy, seeing that He in whom alone saving faith can be exercised had not yet favored men with His advent?-PORPHYRY, AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS
Copy past the precise words you need "rephrased", I'll be glad to help. For example, Christ is the founder of Christianity and we believe He is the only way to be saved. Porphyry used that fact against Christianity.... If you need me to explain further, I'll be glad to help.
This is what I asked you in "old English" in Post #22
I'm curious, how would you answer Porphyry???
Words in Red Font are My Words. It is a question. I rephrased adding ??? Hope this helps.
If Christ declares Himself to be the Way of salvation, the Grace and the Truth, and affirms that in Him alone, and only to souls believing in Him, is the way of return to God, what has become of men who lived in the many centuries before Christ came? . . . What, then, has become of such an innumerable multitude of souls, who were in no wise blameworthy, seeing that He in whom alone saving faith can be exercised had not yet favored men with His advent?-PORPHYRY, AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS
Copy past the precise words you need "rephrased", I'll be glad to help. For example, Christ is the founder of Christianity and we believe He is the only way to be saved. Porphyry used that fact against Christianity.... If you need me to explain further, I'll be glad to help.
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And I responded with "I didn't understand your friend ".
My response to a long dead enemy of the faith would be for him to listen to the Christians of his day. To ask his questions of them and to consider their response.
Not my friend.
The OP you responded to is about people who never heard about Christ. I claim PostMortem Opportunity to be saved exists.
You denied I was right.
So I asked how you would respond to Porphyry's argument as it is often repeated today by Atheists.
The argument against Christianity hasn't changed even though Porphyry is long dead.
The issue is NOT about telling him what to do. Or demanding he ask Christians of his day for an answer. He is dead, and so are they.
This is about what happens to those who die without knowing Christ.
If this isn't clear and you need rephrasing, just ask.
What about those who never heard about Jesus, how can they be saved?
Perhaps you need it "rephrased". I'll ask ChatGPT to rephrase it for you:
In simpler language, Porphyry's argument can be summarized as follows: If Jesus claims to be the only way to salvation and declares that only those who believe in Him can find the path to God, what about all the people who lived before His time? What happened to the countless souls who were not at fault for not having the opportunity to believe in Him since He hadn't appeared yet?-ChatGPT in modern English
Just in case I had ChatGPT rephrase it again:
In simpler language, Porphyry's statement can be rephrased as follows:
"If Jesus claims that He is the only way to be saved, the source of grace and truth, and that only those who believe in Him can find the path to God, what happens to all the people who lived before Jesus? What about the countless souls who were not at fault because they did not have the opportunity to believe in Him since He had not yet come?"
I hope one of those versions made the argument against Christianity clear. If not, ask and I'll have ChaptGPT rephrase it again.
In 15th-century English, Porphyry's statement could be rephrased as follows:
"If Christe declareth Himselve to be the Way of saluacyon, the Grace and the Truthe, and affirmeth that in Hym alone, and onely to soules beleuynge in Hym, is the way of returne to God, what hath become of menne who lyued in the many centuries before Christe came?... What, then, hath become of such an innumerable multytude of soules, who were in no wise blame worthie, seeynge that He in whome alone sauyng faith can be exercised had not yet fauoured menne with Hys aduenture?"
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I asked you to ask me a question.
ChatGPT can answer its own questions.
How about you ask me one?
Alfred Persson
I see you are editing your post that I already responded to.
You keep adding things and that might get confusing for anyone trying to follow this thread.
Or are you trying to gaslight us?
Please just respond instead of editing.
I see you are editing your post that I already responded to.
You keep adding things and that might get confusing for anyone trying to follow this thread.
Or are you trying to gaslight us?
Please just respond instead of editing.
question
an act or instance of asking : INQUIRY
I asked, repeatedly, the same question. Here it is again:
"What about those who never heard about Jesus, how can they be saved?"
In simpler language, rephrase follows:
"What happens to people who have never heard about Jesus? How can they find salvation?"
"What happens to those who have never heard about Jesus? How can they find salvation?"
That is not "old English", this is:
"What hapneth to those who nevir heard aboute Jesus? Howe may thei fynde salvacioun?"
Simple answer would be... the same way Able did.
And this.is the first time you have asked this question of me.
So those not murdered can't be saved.
Is there a particular weapon that must be used, for salvation to be possible?