How many verses are required to prove a false doctrine?

[donadams]

“Faith alone”!

How many verses are required to prove a false doctrine?

Mk 16:16 faith & baptism
Jn 3:5 water & the spirit
Jn 15:4 abide in Christ
acts 2:38-39 repentance & baptism
acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
acts 22:16 name of the Lord & baptism
rom 10:10 faith & confession
1 cor 13:2 faith & charity
1 cor 13:13 faith, hope, & charity
1 cor 16:22 love of Jesus Christ
Rom 8:17 faith and suffering
2 Timothy 2:12
1 thes 1:3 faith, love, patience / 2 thes 1:4 / 1 Tim 6:11 /
Col 1:24 suffering for Christ
Philemon 1:5 love and faith
Phil 1:29 called to suffer not faith alone
Titus 2:2 faith, love, patience
James 2:24 faith & works
2 pet 1:5 add to faith
Heb 6:12 faith & patience / rev 13:10
Rev 2:19 works, charity, service, faith, patience
Rev 12:17 testimony of Jesus & commandments
Rev 2:19 & rev 13:10 & Rev 14:12 commandments & patience
Three things are eternal! 1 cor 13:13
Faith, Hope, & Charity!

1 Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1 Timothy 6:11
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Revelation 2:19
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Never “faith alone”!

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by the apostolic church!

Christ never revealed and the church never taught the doctrine of “faith alone”!

The holy apostolic church has condemned the doctrine of “faith alone”!

“Faith Alone” is a false doctrine!

 

[F345T]

“Faith alone”!

How many verses are required to prove a false doctrine?

Mk 16:16 faith & baptism
Jn 3:5 water & the spirit
Jn 15:4 abide in Christ
acts 2:38-39 repentance & baptism
acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
acts 22:16 name of the Lord & baptism
rom 10:10 faith & confession
1 cor 13:2 faith & charity
1 cor 13:13 faith, hope, & charity
1 cor 16:22 love of Jesus Christ
Rom 8:17 faith and suffering
2 Timothy 2:12
1 thes 1:3 faith, love, patience / 2 thes 1:4 / 1 Tim 6:11 /
Col 1:24 suffering for Christ
Philemon 1:5 love and faith
Phil 1:29 called to suffer not faith alone
Titus 2:2 faith, love, patience
James 2:24 faith & works
2 pet 1:5 add to faith
Heb 6:12 faith & patience / rev 13:10
Rev 2:19 works, charity, service, faith, patience
Rev 12:17 testimony of Jesus & commandments
Rev 2:19 & rev 13:10 & Rev 14:12 commandments & patience
Three things are eternal! 1 cor 13:13
Faith, Hope, & Charity!

1 Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1 Timothy 6:11
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Revelation 2:19
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Never “faith alone”!

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by the apostolic church!

Christ never revealed and the church never taught the doctrine of “faith alone”!

The holy apostolic church has condemned the doctrine of “faith alone”!

“Faith Alone” is a false doctrine!

I think the Bible says 2 or 3.

You seem to have covered it thoroughly.

 

[donadams]

I think the Bible says 2 or 3.

You seem to have covered it thoroughly.

Thanks

 

[Hopeful 2]

“Faith alone”!

How many verses are required to prove a false doctrine?

Mk 16:16 faith & baptism
Jn 3:5 water & the spirit
Jn 15:4 abide in Christ
acts 2:38-39 repentance & baptism
acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
acts 22:16 name of the Lord & baptism
rom 10:10 faith & confession
1 cor 13:2 faith & charity
1 cor 13:13 faith, hope, & charity
1 cor 16:22 love of Jesus Christ
Rom 8:17 faith and suffering
2 Timothy 2:12
1 thes 1:3 faith, love, patience / 2 thes 1:4 / 1 Tim 6:11 /
Col 1:24 suffering for Christ
Philemon 1:5 love and faith
Phil 1:29 called to suffer not faith alone
Titus 2:2 faith, love, patience
James 2:24 faith & works
2 pet 1:5 add to faith
Heb 6:12 faith & patience / rev 13:10
Rev 2:19 works, charity, service, faith, patience
Rev 12:17 testimony of Jesus & commandments
Rev 2:19 & rev 13:10 & Rev 14:12 commandments & patience
Three things are eternal! 1 cor 13:13
Faith, Hope, & Charity!

1 Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1 Timothy 6:11
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Revelation 2:19
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Never “faith alone”!

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by the apostolic church!

Christ never revealed and the church never taught the doctrine of “faith alone”!

The holy apostolic church has condemned the doctrine of “faith alone”!

“Faith Alone” is a false doctrine!

No amount of verses can prove a false doctrine.
One word can prove a doctrine is false...LOVE.

 

[tdidymas]

“Faith alone”!

How many verses are required to prove a false doctrine?

Mk 16:16 faith & baptism
Jn 3:5 water & the spirit
Jn 15:4 abide in Christ
acts 2:38-39 repentance & baptism
acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
acts 22:16 name of the Lord & baptism
rom 10:10 faith & confession
1 cor 13:2 faith & charity
1 cor 13:13 faith, hope, & charity
1 cor 16:22 love of Jesus Christ
Rom 8:17 faith and suffering
2 Timothy 2:12
1 thes 1:3 faith, love, patience / 2 thes 1:4 / 1 Tim 6:11 /
Col 1:24 suffering for Christ
Philemon 1:5 love and faith
Phil 1:29 called to suffer not faith alone
Titus 2:2 faith, love, patience
James 2:24 faith & works
2 pet 1:5 add to faith
Heb 6:12 faith & patience / rev 13:10
Rev 2:19 works, charity, service, faith, patience
Rev 12:17 testimony of Jesus & commandments
Rev 2:19 & rev 13:10 & Rev 14:12 commandments & patience
Three things are eternal! 1 cor 13:13
Faith, Hope, & Charity!

1 Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1 Timothy 6:11
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Revelation 2:19
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Never “faith alone”!

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by the apostolic church!

Christ never revealed and the church never taught the doctrine of “faith alone”!

The holy apostolic church has condemned the doctrine of “faith alone”!

“Faith Alone” is a false doctrine!

It depends on what you (or "they") mean by "faith alone." The term "faith" is misused by many, and was from the beginning, this is the reason why James wrote ch. 2 of his epistle. The faith that Paul was talking about in Rom. 5 (justified by faith and not by works) is a faith that includes repentance and following Jesus. In Rom. 3:8 Paul declared that those who claimed he was preaching "let us do evil that good may come" are condemned, because they don't understand the gospel of grace which Paul preached. It means that people who think just because they claimed to believe are saved from God's wrath, are self-deceived.

When Paul wrote in 1 Cor. 12:3 "no one can say, 'Jesus is Lord,' except by the Holy Spirit" he wasn't talking about someone who is just parroting the words. Rom. 10:10 "with the heart one believes unto righteousness" - therefore, Biblical faith is that attitude toward God (disposition of the heart) in which the whole man is involved, in surrender to God, fear of God, believing in Christ, knowledge of one's need for holiness in his life, committed compliance to God's moral will, and life centered around Jesus' command to love others. And all that goes with it, which includes all the teaching of scripture on moral and ethical principles. This is why Jude commands us to contend earnestly for the faith - THE faith, that is, the faith of true Christians. This is the faith that acknowledges God as our helper in all we do and say.

Therefore, "faith alone" is not a false doctrine if you're talking about the right kind of faith. But if your version of "faith" is the same as how the pagan world uses it, then it would be a false idea to you. People like that need a good dose of James. Incidentally, in the context of scripture, being justified by faith is the beginning of the Christian life, not the place where we park ourselves. Jesus spoke of the Christian life as a path - the narrow way.

 

[Tenchi]

“Faith alone”!

How many verses are required to prove a false doctrine?

Mk 16:16 faith & baptism
Jn 3:5 water & the spirit
Jn 15:4 abide in Christ
acts 2:38-39 repentance & baptism
acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
acts 22:16 name of the Lord & baptism
rom 10:10 faith & confession
1 cor 13:2 faith & charity
1 cor 13:13 faith, hope, & charity
1 cor 16:22 love of Jesus Christ
Rom 8:17 faith and suffering
2 Timothy 2:12
1 thes 1:3 faith, love, patience / 2 thes 1:4 / 1 Tim 6:11 /
Col 1:24 suffering for Christ
Philemon 1:5 love and faith
Phil 1:29 called to suffer not faith alone
Titus 2:2 faith, love, patience
James 2:24 faith & works
2 pet 1:5 add to faith
Heb 6:12 faith & patience / rev 13:10
Rev 2:19 works, charity, service, faith, patience
Rev 12:17 testimony of Jesus & commandments
Rev 2:19 & rev 13:10 & Rev 14:12 commandments & patience
Three things are eternal! 1 cor 13:13
Faith, Hope, & Charity!

1 Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1 Timothy 6:11
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Revelation 2:19
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Never “faith alone”!

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by the apostolic church!

Christ never revealed and the church never taught the doctrine of “faith alone”!

The holy apostolic church has condemned the doctrine of “faith alone”!

“Faith Alone” is a false doctrine!

As I've shown in past threads where you've info-dumped, the verses you cite don't actually make your case for you. Read in context, many of your proof-texts actually deny your "baptism saves" doctrine. Your question, then, would be better put: How many verse properly understood in their immediate context and in the larger context of the entire word of God are required to refute a false doctrine? To this question I can reply, "Not many."

 

[F345T]

No amount of verses can prove a false doctrine.

Why do you say this?

Doesn't the Bible tell us to use Scripture to refute and correct error (false doctrine)?

 

[Hopeful 2]

Why do you say this?

Doesn't the Bible tell us to use Scripture to refute and correct error (false doctrine)?

How can you prove something that is false to begin with ?
It would be like proving there are flying saucers !
On the other hand, if one wants DISprove something, LOVE is the final proof.

 

[donadams]

As I've shown in past threads where you've info-dumped, the verses you cite don't actually make your case for you. Read in context, many of your proof-texts actually deny your "baptism saves" doctrine. Your question, then, would be better put: How many verse properly understood in their immediate context and in the larger context of the entire word of God are required to refute a false doctrine? To this question I can reply, "Not many."

Baptism is only the beginning of salvation

Nowhere does it say faith alone saves? 1 cor 13:2 even all faith without charity avails nothing
1 cor 13:13 faith alone? Nope

 

[donadams]

How can you prove something that is false to begin with ?
It would be like proving there are flying saucers !
On the other hand, if one wants DISprove something, LOVE is the final proof.

The apostolic church has the two edged sword the one side to teach all truth, the other to condemn all errors!

 

[F345T]

How can you prove something that is false to begin with ?
It would be like proving there are flying saucers !
On the other hand, if one wants DISprove something, LOVE is the final proof.

Well, proving anything to somebody that's unwilling to be reasonable is impossible. Yes, agreed. Especially attempting that over the internet.

BUT proving Biblical doctrine to be accurate according to the Bible is largely what the Bible is all about. There are many, many verses in the NT that address that effort directly. God wrote the Bible as an ageless foundation of wisdom and Truth knowing that the enemy would continuously work to bury and alter Truth until the end of time.

The Bible is the last legitimate source of Truth in all the world.

 

[donadams]

Well, proving anything to somebody that's unwilling to be reasonable is impossible. Yes, agreed. Especially attempting that over the internet.

BUT proving Biblical doctrine to be accurate according to the Bible is largely what the Bible is all about. There are many, many verses in the NT that address that effort directly. God wrote the Bible as an ageless foundation of wisdom and Truth knowing that the enemy would continuously work to bury and alter Truth until the end of time.

The Bible is the last legitimate source of Truth in all the world.

Then why did Christ establish the church? Matt 16:18-19 to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19 Jn 20:21-23

 

[F345T]

Then why did Christ establish the church? Matt 16:18-19 to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19 Jn 20:21-23

Sorry, I don't know exactly what part of my post you're contesting.

And how is that part contradicted by your response?

Just clarifying. Thanks.

 

[Hopeful 2]

The apostolic church has the two edged sword the one side to teach all truth, the other to condemn all errors!

Yes, The Church By Christ Jesus (Eph 3:21) has the Holy Spirit.
But that seems a tad distant from proving a false doctrine.

 

[Hopeful 2]

Well, proving anything to somebody that's unwilling to be reasonable is impossible. Yes, agreed. Especially attempting that over the internet.

BUT proving Biblical doctrine to be accurate according to the Bible is largely what the Bible is all about. There are many, many verses in the NT that address that effort directly. God wrote the Bible as an ageless foundation of wisdom and Truth knowing that the enemy would continuously work to bury and alter Truth until the end of time.

The Bible is the last legitimate source of Truth in all the world.

Amen to that, but the OP was about proving false doctrines.

 

[donadams]

Sorry, I don't know exactly what part of my post you're contesting.

And how is that part contradicted by your response?

Just clarifying. Thanks.

Not contesting just wondering

The Bible is the last legitimate source of Truth in all the world.

 

[donadams]

Yes, The Church By Christ Jesus (Eph 3:21) has the Holy Spirit.
But that seems a tad distant from proving a false doctrine.

Does the apostolic church have authority from Christ to teach all nations?

 

[Hopeful 2]

Does the apostolic church have authority from Christ to teach all nations?

Yes, in fact The Church By Christ Jesus (Eph 3:21) is commanded to do so.

 

[Corinth77777]

“Faith alone”!

How many verses are required to prove a false doctrine?

Mk 16:16 faith & baptism
Jn 3:5 water & the spirit
Jn 15:4 abide in Christ
acts 2:38-39 repentance & baptism
acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
acts 22:16 name of the Lord & baptism
rom 10:10 faith & confession
1 cor 13:2 faith & charity
1 cor 13:13 faith, hope, & charity
1 cor 16:22 love of Jesus Christ
Rom 8:17 faith and suffering
2 Timothy 2:12
1 thes 1:3 faith, love, patience / 2 thes 1:4 / 1 Tim 6:11 /
Col 1:24 suffering for Christ
Philemon 1:5 love and faith
Phil 1:29 called to suffer not faith alone
Titus 2:2 faith, love, patience
James 2:24 faith & works
2 pet 1:5 add to faith
Heb 6:12 faith & patience / rev 13:10
Rev 2:19 works, charity, service, faith, patience
Rev 12:17 testimony of Jesus & commandments
Rev 2:19 & rev 13:10 & Rev 14:12 commandments & patience
Three things are eternal! 1 cor 13:13
Faith, Hope, & Charity!

1 Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1 Timothy 6:11
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Revelation 2:19
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Never “faith alone”!

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by the apostolic church!

Christ never revealed and the church never taught the doctrine of “faith alone”!

The holy apostolic church has condemned the doctrine of “faith alone”!

“Faith Alone” is a false doctrine!

99.9 % of the time you quote scriptures that do not prove anything.

 

[F345T]

Not contesting just wondering

The Bible is the last legitimate source of Truth in all the world.

Do you not believe the Bible has more authority than man?