Charismatic Bible Studies - 2 Peter 2:17-22

[JLB]

One time a christian woman came over with her son. He was slithering around the floor in my lounge like a snake. He had already been to one of the local pastor's houses, surrounded by their team, but they were unable to cast that demon out. My friend and I had to firstly, find out how this spirit got in. Guided by the Holy Spirit, we asked those involved to ask him to forgive them. Then we commanded that snake spirit to go down, and we talked to the boy, giving him clear instructions to resist those demons. When we found the doorway, we were able to cast that demon out. He has been following the Lord ever since, with no more demons manifesting...

So beautiful.

Amen.

 

[JLB]

Oh I might do one more because I like this one.
One night a woman came to my house desperate because her daughter's friend was in danger and her unborn baby had stopped moving because this friend's boyfriend was a Satanist and cast a spell over the unborn child so that it would die. So I went with her to the friend's house. She was heavily pregnant and told me her story. She had 2 other children and the one in her belly to a Satanist guy who was in jail. He had just come out but was wanted by the police again. He was planning to kill her and their unborn child. She did not know where he was at this time.

I laid hands on this unborn baby, who had not moved for almost a week, and led by the Holy Spirit, I broke off any curses and asked the Lord for healing. Then the baby gave me a huge kick. Lol! After that we prayed for protection over her and her family, and I left.

I found out later that the guy came back but was so tired he fell asleep while she and her kids were out. They came back to find him sleeping in her house. Then they called the police. He did not wake up until the police arrived. Glory!

Hallelujah!

 

[hawkman]

4. Have you heard of cases where a deliverance did not take, and the victim went back into their sin?

Like his best friends disappeared.

I will do my best to tell what I remember about a deliverance I heard about .
A lady had many demons and was in a bad condition , so deliverance was started on her and took many hours to finally free her of the demons . The lady collapsed in a heap but soon was up and frantic , she said " No ! My friends are gone , where are they ! I want them back ! My friends ! " The demons soon returned to the lady .

 

[Hidden In Him]

I will do my best to tell what I remember about a deliverance I heard about .
A lady had many demons and was in a bad condition , so deliverance was started on her and took many hours to finally free her of the demons . The lady collapsed in a heap but soon was up and frantic , she said " No ! My friends are gone , where are they ! I want them back ! My friends ! " The demons soon returned to the lady .

That's not a pleasant story. I think this is one of the major reasons why the body of Christ is called to love one another. Loneliness is a problem the Devil capitalizes on, because he then becomes the "friend" people need when the church wasn't there. Very sad.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I find myself somewhat nauseous. Demons are a real thing. I don't know how many who claim to "know them" are being "played" or revealing things God wants them to expose? I don't honestly know?

You mean heavenly accounts? I don't subscribe to just anything. But I do hold the accounts I quote from as genuine.

Being that young people or single Christians cannot simply go out and take a spouse, there has to be some exercise of self-restraint and patience. I don't think that sexual fantasies fall into the category of adultery because they fall short of the actual practice of adultery. But the ideal is to avoid anything that leads to fornication and an unhealthy obsession with sexual indulgences.

Yes, and you mentioned Paul. He recommended people get married if they could not contain, but his actual stress was on maintaining celibacy when possible. And self-restraint was the tenor of his teaching on all things, including the eating of meats and all things related to the flesh. I think he ate only rarely, because he testified in a couple of places that he fasted often.

 

[RandyK]

You mean heavenly accounts? I don't subscribe to just anything. But I do hold the accounts I quote from as genuine.

Yes, I'm not sure what "heavenly accounts" are really from heaven, when I'm not receiving the revelations directly myself? But that's where discernment comes in, as well as comparing the revelation in visions from the revelation given in Scriptures.

I would hardly dismiss Nebuchadnezzar's Dream or Daniel's Dream only because I did not have the dream myself! But I maintain a healthy suspicion towards claimed visions precisely because the Scriptures warn us of such.

When it comes to the afterlife and to demons, I have to weigh their value to our Christian lives. I do recognize that delving into New Age philosophy and occultic experience can have its dangers and drawbacks.

Yes, and you mentioned Paul. He recommended people get married if they could not contain, but his actual stress was on maintaining celibacy when possible.

I don't personally think Paul was emphasizing celibacy except to those who were given that ability by God. The inference is that most people are *not* given that gift because it is known that the Jews considered it almost mandatory that couples have children and fulfill the 1st great commandment to Man, to "multiply and fill the earth."

Paul's emphasis was keeping a healthy proportion of service to the Kingdom of God, as opposed to less-valuable activities. That being said, God also placed a high premium on rest and recreation. ;)

And self-restraint was the tenor of his teaching on all things, including the eating of meats and all things related to the flesh. I think he ate only rarely, because he testified in a couple of places that he fasted often.

However, the Jewish feasts were lavish and nearly unrestrained in food indulgence. Getting fat was considered almost evidence of God's blessing your household!

But I think Paul was trying to set an example of self-control, modesty, and focus on spiritual things. Excesses in the material world have a way of grabbing our attention and wasting our resources. Thanks.

 

[Hidden In Him]

However, the Jewish feasts were lavish and nearly unrestrained in food indulgence. Getting fat was considered almost evidence of God's blessing your household!

Well then I need to lose about 30 pounds of evidence right now, LoL.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I will reiterate a little on this one. A young man rang me after I cast out the demons of martial arts from him. These demons were present in him since childhood. He rang one day to tell me how strange he felt and how lonely. Like his best friends disappeared. I told him that it's because those demons had been removed and now he had to fill his life up with good and godly things. Those demons gave him a lot of power. I had seen him just put out his hand towards another person, and they flew backward without being touched physically. He was a legend at high school, with many young men trying to fight him, but he really wasn't interested. This constant pressure was because he had beaten a martial arts teacher (adult) who taught an after-school program. Right now he can still be tempted by these demons, but he does not engage in anything to do with martial arts and has removed everything in his home associated with it.

I've read that certain schools of the martial arts are associated with channeling the demonic. John Ankerburg did a nice piece on this once. I'll include the link to the full article at the bottom.

At least some of the martial arts were influenced by or developed from occult experiences. For example, although its origins may be traced to twelfth-century Japan, the modern developer of aikido was Morihei Ueshiba (1883-1969). An article in Yoga Journal by Buddhist scholar and aikido instructor John Stevens states, “Morihei Ueshiba, founder of Aikido, looked like a Taoist immortal, acted like a Hindu swami and spoke like a Shinto shaman.” [1] Aikido was developed out of Ueshiba’s experience of enlightenment. In the spring of 1925, when Ueshiba was walking alone in the garden, suddenly, “a golden spirit” sprang up from the ground. “I was bathed in a heavenly light; the ground quaked as a golden cloud welled up from the earth and entered my body. I felt transformed into a golden being that filled space—I am the universe.” [2] Further, “At the same time, my mind and body turned into light. I was able to understand the whispering of the birds, and was clearly aware of the mind of God.... At that moment I was enlightened…. I have grown to feel that the whole earth is my house, and the sun, the moon and the stars are all my own things.” [3] Ueshiba’s meditation practice had produced in him an occult enlightenment typical of Eastern gurus and other occultists. It also produced dramatic psychic powers. Such was the occult form of “enlightenment” from which aikido sprang. The development of Tai Chi is often credited to Chang San-Feng (ca. 1260-1368), who was apparently a Taoist hoping to discover the secret of immortality by occult means. His strong interest in the I Ching and other occult pursuits were well known and, in part, eventually led him to develop Tai Chi. The Chinese emperor himself described San-Feng as “the wise and illustrious spiritual man who understands the occult [i.e., the Tao].”

... George Leonard describes a similar incident in his own experience with aikido. “As the four of us attacked her, repeatedly, I had a sample of that quality of Aikido that so often is called ‘magical’ or ‘occult’: I simply could not get to her. It was as if she were surrounded by the kind of force field you see in Star Trek.” [19] Leonard says that he is “at a loss for words” to explain these kinds of experiences he has encountered. [20] In other words, the traditional mystical ( ki or chi) energy developed in the martial arts is equivalent to occult energy in general. This chi or ki energy can be used for the standard occult powers developed in other occult systems. It can be used to turn the hand into a powerful or deadly weapon, to heal wounds and diseases, to break bricks and boards without even touching them. It can be used as a shield to prevent attacks and to strengthen the body to such a degree that allegedly no amount of physical attack by hand or sword can leave even a bruise or scratch. It can be used to read the past or predict the future, [21] or even to kill: “Kung Fu practitioners widely believe in a traditional death touch called dim mak. If a body is struck at a certain point in a certain manner at a certain time of day, a delayed death inevitably follows. At first the victim feels unharmed, then later becomes ill and dies.”

The Occult Potential and Spiritual Dangers of Martial Arts – Part 1

By: Dr. John Ankerberg; ©2012 In this article we will examine three concerns with martial arts: 1) the occult origin of some of the martial arts; 2) the sp

blog.atriresearch.org

 

[Hidden In Him]

Oh I might do one more because I like this one.
One night a woman came to my house desperate because her daughter's friend was in danger and her unborn baby had stopped moving because this friend's boyfriend was a Satanist and cast a spell over the unborn child so that it would die. So I went with her to the friend's house. She was heavily pregnant and told me her story. She had 2 other children and the one in her belly to a Satanist guy who was in jail. He had just come out but was wanted by the police again. He was planning to kill her and their unborn child. She did not know where he was at this time.

I laid hands on this unborn baby, who had not moved for almost a week, and led by the Holy Spirit, I broke off any curses and asked the Lord for healing. Then the baby gave me a huge kick. Lol! After that we prayed for protection over her and her family, and I left.

I found out later that the guy came back but was so tired he fell asleep while she and her kids were out. They came back to find him sleeping in her house. Then they called the police. He did not wake up until the police arrived. Glory!

These testimonies are fabulous, and I especially like this one! How long ago was this, if I might ask?