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Assisted Dying for Minors in Canada. They are Coming for Your Kids
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Wow! People are completely losing their humanity!
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Eek 
Sad thing? It’s easier and cheaper to get people to kill themselves than it is to treat any number of ailments, and definitely cheaper and easier than addressing social issues…
Sad thing? It’s easier and cheaper to get people to kill themselves than it is to treat any number of ailments, and definitely cheaper and easier than addressing social issues…
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This thread reminded me of the following end-time vision of where the globalists are going with all this. I highlighted the part that especially applies:
I saw the horns of the fiery serpent as they entered the bodies of people on earth. Many were completely possessed by the serpent. As I watched, I saw a huge beast arise in a large place and turn into a man. The inhabitants of the earth ran from him, some into the wilderness, some into caves, and some into subway stations and bomb shelters. They sought any shelter to hide from the eyes of the beast. No one was praising God or talking about Jesus.
A voice said to me, "Where are My people?" I looked closer and saw people like dead men walking. There was a desperate sadness in the air, and no one turned to the right or left. I saw that the people were being led about by some unseen force. Now and then a voice spoke to them out of the air, and they obeyed the voice. They did not talk to one another. I saw too that the number "666" was written on each one's forehead and on his hands. I saw soldiers on horses herding the people about as though they were cattle.
The American flag, tattered and torn, lay forlornly on the ground. There was no joy, no laughter, no happiness. I saw death and evil everywhere.
The people walked one behind another into a large department store. They kept in step like discouraged soldiers and were dressed identically in a type of prison garb. A fence surrounded the store, and guards were stationed here and there. Everywhere I looked, I saw soldiers in battle-dress uniforms.
I saw these zombie-like people herded into the store, where they were able to buy only the barest necessities. As each completed his purchases, he was placed aboard a large green army truck. The truck, well-guarded, was then driven to another area.
Here, in a type of clinic, these people were examined for communicable diseases or crippling handicaps. A small number of them were shuffled to the side as rejects.
Soon, those who failed the examination were taken to another room. In that room, an impressive array of switches, buttons and gages lined an entire wall. A door opened, and several technicians came in. One of them began to call the names of the people in the room. Without a struggle, they arose when their names were called and marched into a large box. When they were inside, another technician closed the door and pulled a switch in a panel on the wall. A few minutes later he opened the door, took down a broom and dust pan, and swept what remained of them off the floor. Nothing but a bit of dust was left of what had once been a roomful of people!
I saw those people who passed the medical exam being put back into the same truck and driven, to a train. No one spoke or even turned to look at anyone else. At another building each person was assigned a job. They all went to work without a single dispute. I watched as they worked very hard at their assigned tasks, and then at the end of the day, they were taken to an apartment building with a high fence around it. Each undressed and went to bed. Tomorrow they would work hard again.
I heard a loud voice fill the night air. I saw a huge beast, and he sat on a large, I throne. All the people obeyed the beast. I saw spiritual horns growing from his head. They reached, into and out of every place on earth. The beast took upon himself many positions of authority and many j offices, and he became great in power.
The beast pushed himself into many places and deceived many people. The rich and the famous were deceived as well as the poor and disfranchised. Small and great paid homage to the beast.
A large machine was brought into an office. The beast put his mark on it, and his voice came out of it. There was also a "big brother" machine that could see into homes and businesses. Only a single machine of this type existed, and it belonged to the beast. The part of the machine that was located in the homes of the people was invisible to the naked eye, but it could and did report to the beast every move the people made. I watched as the beast turned his throne around and faced toward me. On his forehead was the number 666.
As I watched, I saw another man in another office become very angry at the beast. He demanded to talk with him. He was yelling at the top of his voice. The beast appeared and seemed very courteous as he said, "Come, I can help you take care of all your problems."
The beast took the angry man into a large room and motioned for him to lie down on a table. The room and the table reminded me of a hospital emergency room. The man was given an anesthesia and wheeled beneath a vast machine. The beast attached wires to the man's head and turned on the machine. On the top of the machine were the words, "This mind eraser belongs to the beast, 666."
When the man was removed from the table, his eyes had a vacant stare, and his movements reminded one of a zombie in a movie. I saw a large blank spot on the top of his head, and I knew his mind had been surgically altered so he could be controlled by the beast. The beast said, "Now, sir, don't you feel better? Didn't I say I could take care of all your problems? I have given you a new mind. You will have no worries or troubles now."
The man did not speak.
"You will obey my every command," said the beast as he picked up a small object and attached it to the man's shirt. He spoke again to the man, and he answered without moving his lips. He moved like a living dead man. "You will work and not get angry or frustrated, nor will you cry or be sad. You will work for me until you die. I have many like you that I control. Some lie, some kill, some steal, some make war, some have children, some run machinery, and some do other things. Yes, I control everything." An evil laugh came from him.
Or lost it or never had it perhaps? When were people ever free from the death dealing of mankind/society? (The answer is hidden in Galatians, even in English and Hebrew and Greek. key word "pernicious" re Wuest Expanded Greek, and a few others not being promoted anywhere I have heard about.
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Wow !
www.theblaze.com
‘Stone-cold communism’: Canadian government seizes hospice center when staff refuses to allow euthanasia | Blaze Media
Glenn Beck speaks with Delta Hospice Society Executive Director Angelina Ireland about Canada’s growing fascism.
www.theblaze.com
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It should be beyond belief because its not real. Even with the changes in 2027 you can't access MAiD until you are 18 and no minors are allowed. The 9nly changes is that if you have a mental disorder, you can access maid but you also need an underlying physical ailment like a severe stroke or advanced cancer.
MAiD also requires informed consent so a person can't for forced to take it and a guardian can't force a person with a mental disorder to take it without their consent.
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This is a serious accusation ! What I said below is TRUE .
Milk-Drops , is it the video you are doubting ?
Even a fact check from AP quantifies it as truth !
Read below they are considering MAid for minors !
Canada isn’t pushing minors to end their lives. Current euthanasia laws don’t apply to them anyway
CLAIM: Canada is encouraging minors to commit suicide through its medical assistance in dying process.
apnews.com
A Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying, composed of lawmakers from the country’s Parliament, explored the possibility of eligibility for mature minors, among other topics. Its final report was released in February and includes five recommendations related to minors, including that “minors deemed to have the requisite decision-making capacity upon assessment” be eligible for MAID.
In its June response to this report, the Canadian government wrote that it “has actions underway, or planned, in many of the areas covered by the Committee’s recommendations.” This includes funding for research on MAID and marginalized people, including mature minors, and engagement with Indigenous people on the topic.
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But the idea that some group provided non-profit palliative care with just a small part for operations being federal money being required to execute people, whatever the age, or lose their personal property?
‘Stone-cold communism’: Canadian government seizes hospice center when staff refuses to allow euthanasia | Blaze Media
Glenn Beck speaks with Delta Hospice Society Executive Director Angelina Ireland about Canada’s growing fascism.
www.theblaze.com
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Yes, I'm contesting the video. You can easily look up the qualifications for MAiD in Canada and its not a program where you can just walk into a clinic and proclaim you are in anguish and get an iv of death juice. Its a multistage process where you have to be accessed for your cognitive abilities, requires informed consent, and has been primarily used by sever stroke and advanced cancer patients. The person in the video misrepresents the stats by pointing out the deaths in Canada under MAiD was 15,343, and compared that to totals deaths in Canda was 326,571. That is 4.69% of the totals deaths being MAiD related, but the host made it sound like 1/20 canadians died from MAiD in 2023, which is not true. The Canadian population in 2023 was 40.1 million. Total deaths in Canada was 0.8% of the total population. So less then .03% of the population died from MAiD. So 3/10000 people you might know is way smaller than 1/20.
The 2027 changes don't allow minors or adults that just have mental disorders to use MAiD. What it does is lift the ban on people with mental disorders and minors from using MAiD. However the criteria of needing an advanced physical ailment is still a requirement.
Did you actually read the AP article, or did you just Ctrl+F to find parts, because the first paragraph of the article adresses that social media has completley misrepresented the laws and ignore all the stipulations that prevents a minor from just walking in a requesting MAiD.Even a fact check from AP quantifies it as truth !
Read below they are considering MAid for minors !
Canada isn’t pushing minors to end their lives. Current euthanasia laws don’t apply to them anyway
CLAIM: Canada is encouraging minors to commit suicide through its medical assistance in dying process.
A Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying, composed of lawmakers from the country’s Parliament, explored the possibility of eligibility for mature minors, among other topics. Its final report was released in February and includes five recommendations related to minors, including that “minors deemed to have the requisite decision-making capacity upon assessment” be eligible for MAID.
In its June response to this report, the Canadian government wrote that it “has actions underway, or planned, in many of the areas covered by the Committee’s recommendations.” This includes funding for research on MAID and marginalized people, including mature minors, and engagement with Indigenous people on the topic.
There is a reason the pamplet above is cropped so heavily, its because its not from the candian government, but from a fringe special interest group that wants to expand MAiD, but have not been sucessful.
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I'm familiar with Glen Beck's spin and his framing. Even when you read his article he plays a game where he infers, but doesn't outright say a positive.But the idea that some group provided non-profit palliative care with just a small part for operations being federal money being required to execute people, whatever the age, or lose their personal property?
‘Stone-cold communism’: Canadian government seizes hospice center when staff refuses to allow euthanasia | Blaze Media
Glenn Beck speaks with Delta Hospice Society Executive Director Angelina Ireland about Canada’s growing fascism.
In the first paragraph for example Beck says that someone without a terminal illness can request to use MAiD. That is true, but that doesn't mean it will be granted. Beck is skipping over that there are requirements to receive MAiD. I can go to Canada tomorrow and request a hip replacement tomorrow, that doesn't mean they will give me one.
Also Beck is playing around with the idea that the non profit is being required to kill people. No, the Non profit was told that it would have to follow and offer MAiD if it wanted specific funding and grants.
Since the lease agreement for the land required them to offer all federal programs, the company refused and broke their lease. That is why the Fed could take it. The non profit owned the building, but not the land. The company can still exist, and offer their services at new location, but since the non profit broke their lease agreement, they lost their legal hold over the building.
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I can see that you would , ok .
The fact that Parliament officials are even considering MAid for minors I find to be crazy
town ! ! Yes I read it ."Mature minors " did you miss that bit of deception , there is no such thing now days !
Are there some lies on the pamphlet you would like to point out to us ?
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So, do you want to address anything I said then?
The pamphlet is not from the Canadian government. Its from a group that is not part of the Canadian government.The fact that Parliament officials are even considering MAid for minors I find to be crazy
"Mature minors " did you miss that bit of deception , there is no such thing now days !
Are there some lies on the pamphlet you would like to point out to us ?
So no the government is not considering it. Anyone can make a pamphlet that doesn't make it true.
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Canada’s medical assistance in dying (MAID) law
Department of Justice Canada's Internet site
Here is the actual law
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Here is the website from where the Pamphlet comes from and has a huge section explaining myths vs facts of what is going on with MAiD in Canada.
www.dyingwithdignity.ca
Myths and Facts – Medical assistance in dying (MAID) in Canada | Dying With Dignity Canada
Setting out some clear facts surrounding MAID, the strict criteria and safeguards that govern its use, and aspects of its proposed expansion.
www.dyingwithdignity.ca
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I have no argument with your quote above ^^^^ .
No lies to tell me about on the pamphlet .
Maybe not currently but they have in the past and will probably revisit the topic in @ 5 years .
Canada’s roadmap to expanding assisted suicide to ‘mature’ minors revealed
The report said that within the next 5 years, the government of Canada should review mature minors’ access to assisted suicide
www.deseret.com
Are lawmakers part of the government ? This below is a quote from the AP article I POSTED .
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Thank you. I think some of that info is irrelevant. But like any legal case, the circumstances dictate a reasonable equitable solution, as opposed to a strictly-legal resolution that favors the govt.
It goes without saying that the agreement would require compliance with Federal Law. But who could foresee that this would require access to euthanasia or you lose your land/buildings?
It would be just as jaded to say this is a just and equitable resolution as it would be for Beck to say it is not. It depends on whether you assume those who receive Federal money should expect to be required to offer euthanasia services.
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I agree it stinks for the non profit. Its a risk when signing federal contracts, the laws could change and it effects the business.
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I have said multiple times the pamphlet is not representative of what is available from the government and that the pamphlet is not from the Canadian government.
No, the person from the video lied. The claim was about the law and the law in 2027. She was wrong.
The law makers said no. So no law maker is promoting this.Canada’s roadmap to expanding assisted suicide to ‘mature’ minors revealed
The report said that within the next 5 years, the government of Canada should review mature minors’ access to assisted suicide
Are lawmakers part of the government ? This below is a quote from the AP article I POSTED .
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