John 15:1-6 and loss of slvation

[Blain DeCastro]

Legalists don't know what they are talking about, according to the writings of Paul (the apostle). They deny that salvation and eternal life is a free gift, and claim that to be saved you have to obey the 10 Commandments; and it's because they don't understand the nature of grace. Eph. 2:8-10 explains it in a few words.

But the reason they don't believe it is because they fear antinomianism, which Jude and others labelled "licentiousness." They reason that if salvation is a free gift given by the grace of God, then they can commit any sin and still be saved. Paul described that reasoning in Rom. 3:8 this way: "Some slanderously claim that I teach 'let us do evil that good may come,'" and he emphatically condemns such reasoning.

But 1 Pet. 1:5 says that we are kept by the power of God, not by ourselves, our "free will," our own determination, our obedience to the 10 Commandments, or whatever else they think of with legalistic reasoning. But Paul wrote to true believers that "God is in you to will and do His good pleasure." This means that eternal life is a free gift, loving God is a free gift, holiness is a free gift, and every other spiritual blessing the Bible talks about, which is our motivation for loving God in every aspect of our lives. What Jesus did on the cross is sufficient to make our salvation (and spiritual healing) a free gift. Therefore, to those who "have it," it cannot be lost. Better words are: for those who "become sons of God."

My reasoning is that if all it took was to obey the ten commandments then we could just be saved through the law which is what the jews did before Jesus came into the scene butno one could and kept falling short
If it is not of our own power however and instead the power of grace then we are not condemned due to our own efforts rather the efforts of Christ, not to mention the scriptures themselves call it a gift so to deny that fact would be denying scripture itse;f

 

[Blain DeCastro]

tdidymas
JESUS said we are to obey the Commandments...
It's unfortunate that you believe obeying Jesus is being a legalist.

Here's what Jesus taught:

John 14:15
15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
Luke 9:23
23 And He was saying to them all, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily * and follow Me.
Matthew 5:20
20 "For I say to you that unless * your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 7:21
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
Matthew 7:24
24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock.
John 151-2
1 "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.
2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit.

I don't think they are saying it is legalistic to obey Christ but rather it is to keep one's salvation by relying on obeying the law instead of God's grace

 

[tdidymas]

How I don't know what I speak of?

Apparently you think the shoe fits you.

The sons of God are the angels that are higher than the saints. As scripture saying "little higher than us", us means only the saints, because the apostle wrote this is a saint. How saints are different than regular living in Heaven is said in this verse: Ephesians 2:19 "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;".

Believers are certainly saints and sons of God. But you err in saying that angels are sons of God, since writer of Heb. wrote "to which of the angels did God say 'you are my son, today I have begotten you?' But angels are ministering spirits who serve the inheritors of salvation." "Sons of God" in the OT interpreted as angels is a misinterpretation.

If we don't keep the ten commandments, we sin, above verses state that righteous barely is saved. It seems you not read it.

I am well aware of this verse. But you err in thinking that it means you can lose salvation. Either it's a free gift and we are kept by God's power, or else you are in as precarious a position as the Pope who says he can't possibly know where he is going.

The other sons of God are those led by the Holy Spirit according to Bible.

"Other" sons of God? There is only one kind, and according to Rom. 8:14 the true believers are that kind.

But are not the original sons of God - the angels.

Nope. Moses called the believing Israelites "sons of the Most High." Sons of God are true believers, who are human beings.

But one to be led by the Holy Spirit he need to have the Holy Spirit to influence his free will. Demon in you, influences you to sin, Holy Spirit to righteousness.

The HS lives in true believers who are clean and have no demon. If there is a demon in you, then how can you be sure you actually have the HS?

But Holy Spirit is not in one who God is destryoing for fornication, if he/she not keeping the ten commandments and fornicate:

True believers love God and His law, so how can they not keep the 10 commandments? But you err in thinking that "keeping the commandments" is what keeps you saved. If you can't keep the law, then how can you be sure you are really saved? If you think keeping the law makes you saved, then of course you think that keeping the law keeps you save. But this is what the whole theme of Galatians is addressing. You should study it carefully.

1 Corinthians 3:17 "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.".

This is talking about relationships between Christians, not about sinning private sins. The context is about slanders, vain glory, and such things that demean the Christian witness. The "body" is the congregation.

It is talking about temple of the Holy Spirit, the body of the one who already received him. How he can destroy him, but then he repent and again have the Holy Spirit? Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Hebrews 6:6 "If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." So, the Holy Spirit is a seal that one is in Christ, being saved, correct? So, the one who defiled God's temple (his body) according to the above verse already had the Holy Spirit in him, being saved, so him God destroying for fornication, who already is saved and had the Holy Spirit, because he fornicated and not keeping the ten commandments of God. But he was already saved? Had the Holy Spirit already? So what happened?

Your interpretation of Heb. 6:4-6 is erroneous. Verse 9 says that "better things" concern salvation. So v. 4-6 is describing someone NOT SAVED who has been a part of the Christian community. Judas Iscariot was the prime example of that. Since he "fell away" by betraying Christ, he could not be renewed to repentance, and it drove him to suicide. So "partaker of the Holy Ghost" doesn't mean a person is born again; it simply means they have had supernatural experiences, including miracles. "Enlightened" doesn't mean born again; it simply means they were given the truth. There are 2 different realms, one of the flesh and mind, and one of the spirit. An atheist can know what the gospel is and means, and yet reject the whole tennant of trusting in Christ. A true believer can misunderstand portions of the gospel, and yet trust in Christ for his eternal future, and be born again.

 

[tdidymas]

tdidymas
JESUS said we are to obey the Commandments...
It's unfortunate that you believe obeying Jesus is being a legalist.

Here's what Jesus taught:

John 14:15
15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
Luke 9:23
23 And He was saying to them all, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily * and follow Me.
Matthew 5:20
20 "For I say to you that unless * your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 7:21
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
Matthew 7:24
24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock.
John 151-2
1 "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.
2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit.

Your conclusion is erroneous. You apparently read what I wrote like you read the scripture, taking things out of context and thinking the worst of it. Obeying Christ in faith is real obedience. But if you think you can save yourself or condemn yourself by your obedience or not, then by default you aren't obeying Christ. Obedience to Christ starts with faith, which is the foundation. But if you think your fleshly "free will" is powerful enough to overcome the power of God (1 Pet. 1:5) to make you lose your salvation, then apparently your faith is more in yourself than in God. I agree with all the scriptures you quote. I just disagree with your conclusions about them.

 

[tdidymas]

I don't think they are saying it is legalistic to obey Christ but rather it is to keep one's salvation by relying on obeying the law instead of God's grace

They would never admit they are legalistic, so no, they aren't saying it. But can you see that the idea that a person can keep their own salvation or lose it, by obedience (or not) instead of grace, that the idea is legalistic? That it's the same idea that Paul condemns in Galatians?

 

[Blain DeCastro]

They would never admit they are legalistic, so no, they aren't saying it. But can you see that the idea that a person can keep their own salvation or lose it, by obedience (or not) instead of grace, that the idea is legalistic? That it's the same idea that Paul condemns in Galatians?

Yes I can see that, if one relies on the law for their salvation well they don't need the grace of God for it do they?

But then that would make Jesus's death null and void a pointless death if all it took was to obey God, not to say we shouldn't obey him but something was always needed for salvation and God's grace and the blood of Christ was that thing not obeying the law.

 

[tdidymas]

Yes I can see that, if one relies on the law for their salvation well they don't need the grace of God for it do they?

But then that would make Jesus's death null and void a pointless death if all it took was to obey God, not to say we shouldn't obey him but something was always needed for salvation and God's grace and the blood of Christ was that thing not obeying the law.

Right, but the problem with this is that they confuse grace and law by saying they can't do it by law alone, but they can do it by law and grace. It's essentially what the Roman Church teaches and many of the protestant churches, and is called "semi-pelagian" by reformed theologians.

 

[Blain DeCastro]

Right, but the problem with this is that they confuse grace and law by saying they can't do it by law alone, but they can do it by law and grace. It's essentially what the Roman Church teaches and many of the protestant churches, and is called "semi-pelagian" by reformed theologians.

In a way that kind of makes sense I mean combining the law and grace does kind of give one a fiar shot at keeping their salvation but that is a fair shot at best because I have never seen in scripture combining the two I have only seen it spoken of by opposing each other

So all people are doing by doing this is ignoring what the scriptures say, never once does it say let us combine the law and grace together that we might keep our faith

 

[Blain DeCastro]

Ephesians, Chapter 2:

7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

 

[Randy]

You haven't replied to my question.
You state above that God will keep us safe in a sinful environment.

I showed God can keep us safe. You think God took away their free will?
Romans 11:4

I hope you realize that when you credit God with all your actions, and with no input of your own,
you are, in effect, blaming God for every time you sin.

My will is involved. I know I'm not free to sin. I have a very healthy fear of God. I love God. I know God. I guard the good deposit that was entrusted to me.
I cannot unknow what I know. No one can deceive me away from Christ. The evil one cannot harm me.

Apparently you think you do not sin but will not admit this.

Apparently, you think I have sin even those sealed in Christ by the Spirit have no sin.
My conscience is clear before God. What sin do you have?
As I stated it depends on how far you want to sift to define sin. I showed you the commands I keep. Even so I justified by faith and do no harm to any other.

Free will is not lost when one becomes saved.
The Holy Spirit helps us to maintain a clear conscience...
but He will not FORCE us to.

I have free will. I am a new creation. I have been appointed to eternal life and will never perish just as Jesus stated of those who believe in Him. I know in Him alone is found eternal life just as the Apostles knew. I know apart from Him is eternal death. Do you think I am crazy mad to ever to choose to leave Him knowing of the eternal consequences at stake? Not going to happen of my will and Christs will for no power can force that hand for the one begotten of God keeps safe those who are born of God and the evil one cannot harm them.

§The bottom line is this since you will not repy:

1. We must believe in God to be saved.
2. We must obey God to be saved.
3. If we do not believe in §God we will not be saved.
4. if we do not obey God we will not be saved.

I'm starting to you those born of God do believe in Him and will not and cannot continue to sin and cannot be deceived away from Him. You're stating it's possible to perish if one decides to leave Him.

One who is born of God knows this as well as the eternal consequences at stake for leaving Him. No one can snatch them from His hands. (We cannot be deceived away) So anyone who has been sealed in Him by the Spirit would be willfully lying to deny Him publicly. Not going to happen.
Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.
We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”

Our salvation comes at the end of life.
Jesus said: Those that endure till the end will be saved.

We collect the reward then but being born of God is a judgment already made in our favor. We are appointed to eternal life at that point and the good deposit is the guaranteed of that appointment.

Matthew 24.13
13 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
Peter, who was taught by Jesus, wrote that we will obtain our salvation at the end...
why? Because he knew a person could fall away from the faith before their death:

Yes, the Apostles endured to the end because they really were His disciples. He chose them.
Born not of human decision but born of God.

1 Peter 1:9
9 obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.
And Paul agreed that a person could fall away and taught this:

Paul endured to the end. He was set aside at birth and chosen by God. He had free will.

1 Timothy 4.1
1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,

No one born of God can be deceived away from Christ. It must be those who believed for a little while.
As Jesus stated, "My sheep hear my voice, and they follow me"

Those born of God are the children of God.

John 10:27-28​

27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

It would require a deliberate will and lie for those born of God to leave Him and deny Him for they know Him to be Lord and Christ. What power under heaven could convince one to state such a lie? The evil one cannot harm them. So, who and why?

The great deception of the beast in the time of the end is for those who do not believe and refuse to repent of their evil ways. Deceiving Spirits and false teachers.

The sheep follow the voice of the Shepard not any other.

 

[Randy]

Was their free will taken away?
And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”

5So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

It's a matter of debate when we are chosen but those born of God were chosen. I would state everyone born into this world experiences the weakness of the flesh described as the sinful nature, but no one is born into this world with a corrupt conceited mind. One may grow into that state, but no one starts that way.
We know this is in play: God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.

In fact, Jesus states of children:
He called a little child to him and placed the child among them. 3And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[George1]

Apparently you think the shoe fits you.

Believers are certainly saints and sons of God. But you err in saying that angels are sons of God, since writer of Heb. wrote "to which of the angels did God say 'you are my son, today I have begotten you?' But angels are ministering spirits who serve the inheritors of salvation." "Sons of God" in the OT interpreted as angels is a misinterpretation.

I am well aware of this verse. But you err in thinking that it means you can lose salvation. Either it's a free gift and we are kept by God's power, or else you are in as precarious a position as the Pope who says he can't possibly know where he is going.

"Other" sons of God? There is only one kind, and according to Rom. 8:14 the true believers are that kind.

Nope. Moses called the believing Israelites "sons of the Most High." Sons of God are true believers, who are human beings.

The HS lives in true believers who are clean and have no demon. If there is a demon in you, then how can you be sure you actually have the HS?

True believers love God and His law, so how can they not keep the 10 commandments? But you err in thinking that "keeping the commandments" is what keeps you saved. If you can't keep the law, then how can you be sure you are really saved? If you think keeping the law makes you saved, then of course you think that keeping the law keeps you save. But this is what the whole theme of Galatians is addressing. You should study it carefully.

This is talking about relationships between Christians, not about sinning private sins. The context is about slanders, vain glory, and such things that demean the Christian witness. The "body" is the congregation.

Your interpretation of Heb. 6:4-6 is erroneous. Verse 9 says that "better things" concern salvation. So v. 4-6 is describing someone NOT SAVED who has been a part of the Christian community. Judas Iscariot was the prime example of that. Since he "fell away" by betraying Christ, he could not be renewed to repentance, and it drove him to suicide. So "partaker of the Holy Ghost" doesn't mean a person is born again; it simply means they have had supernatural experiences, including miracles. "Enlightened" doesn't mean born again; it simply means they were given the truth. There are 2 different realms, one of the flesh and mind, and one of the spirit. An atheist can know what the gospel is and means, and yet reject the whole tennant of trusting in Christ. A true believer can misunderstand portions of the gospel, and yet trust in Christ for his eternal future, and be born again.

My shoe is of God. If all believers are saints, the verse you replied to, is not true. Ephesians 2:19 "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;". The sons of God are the angels. God is not human so his sons the angels are not humans as well. Here is a verse you can think about: Job 1:6 "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.". Do you think those sons of God that came, are humans? What Satan have to do with humans? You think about logic, they are not humans, but angels, as Satan. And it is said "the sons of God", not that there is other sons of God, humans. Others are childs of God, as interpreted by scripture, those who have the Holy Spirit, by logic as well. Who are humans indeed. Adopted sons of God, not original, as the angels of God. You think about logic. God have his sons, the angels, and they are only called so. Scripture can say they are ministering spirits servants of humans, but only in New Testament, which is different kind of spirit. This is not the whole Bible, there is also Old Testament, not less important. You cannot take only what New Testament saying, without have in mind the whole Bible. It is said also angels are little higher than humans. But also, they are not humans, and have wings. How they can be lower than humans and not higher? Do humans have wings? Are they strong as the angels in spirit and spiritual body in afterlife? Do they have swords, are they part of the army of God? Are they pure as the angels? God is not human as well, this is why he is higher than humans. So, his sons are not humans. It is said in Old Testament he have wings as well. No one ever seen God Jesus said, because human now or in afterlife cannot see God, even being a saint, and the verse saying why: Exodus 33:20 "And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.". Yet it is written in Bible, the angels watching his face always. Because they are not humans, and can see him. Because they are his sons. Old Testament is correct. Salvation is a gift of God for those who obey God, else all would be saved. Who don't want a good eternal life? And until people have free will, they can sin and turn from God. Think about it, is it not possible? Satan, the greatest angel turn from God. Who indeed was holy before. Humans are lower than angels according to Bible. About God keeping your salvation, this is another thing. He will keep you if you are a saint, but born again is just new spirit within you. It can fall. Not all are saints. Believers will never be the sons of God. Human nature is not angelic nature. Moses calling them so which means children of God. Another word, that cannot be used in the same way, as sons of Gods. I don't have wicked spirits in me. Demon cannot live in you, if you are saved. Demons live in people that are not of God. I just told, that demons are wicked spirits that are in people in order to make them sin. And this happens by being in them, and they take their evilness and sin. While Holy Spirit is holy and being in them, makes them do holy works. The law are the first two commandments, love God and neighbor, as Jesus said. The rich man asked Jesus what to do to go to Heaven he said keep the commandments. Jesus never changes, and his replies are for all. No, it is talking about fornication, not about relationships. No one can heal people, without being fully in God. Born again does not means saint. Saint is one who have halo. Not all in Heaven have halo. Which is to say, there is more Heavens in Bible, maybe there is a Heaven where all have halo, but not the lowest. It does not matter if one is atheist, for salvation. Because he is not of God. While believer, even if distrust God, he sent his Christ to die for him, so he can be saved. Only to believer it matters the sacrifice of Christ. Also they must be baptized. Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.". See? "That believeth", atheist not believe. And is not baptized.

 

[GodsGrace]

I am Christian, this is my opinion.

Christianity is a set faith.
We do not bring OUR OPINION to this faith system.
It is necessary to use scripture when posting on theology.
The Christian religion cannot be changed to suit your opinion.

 

[GodsGrace]

I don't think they are saying it is legalistic to obey Christ but rather it is to keep one's salvation by relying on obeying the law instead of God's grace

Hi Blaine DeCastro
Some DO state that it is legalism to insist that God must be obeyed.
This is pretty shocking to me.

They ALSO believe that it is legalistic to rely on obeying the law instead of God's grace.

Just to clarify, we DO rely on God's grace for everything.
Jesus said that without Him we can do nothing.

Also, we do not rely ON THE LAW. (as you've stated).
Some do not distringuish between The Law,,,,which was abolished 2000 years ago....
and the teaching of Jesus (and all the NT writers) that we are to do good works.

IOW, some equate THE LAW with doing good works for the Kingdom of God.

Totally different ideas.

Welcome to the forum!

 

[GodsGrace]

Your conclusion is erroneous. You apparently read what I wrote like you read the scripture, taking things out of context and thinking the worst of it. Obeying Christ in faith is real obedience. But if you think you can save yourself or condemn yourself by your obedience or not, then by default you aren't obeying Christ. Obedience to Christ starts with faith, which is the foundation. But if you think your fleshly "free will" is powerful enough to overcome the power of God (1 Pet. 1:5) to make you lose your salvation, then apparently your faith is more in yourself than in God. I agree with all the scriptures you quote. I just disagree with your conclusions about them.

Why this strawman tdidmas?
Who said I could save myself without faith?
Who said I could do anything without Jesus?
And why discuss ME?
I'm discussing theology here.

Paul taught the obedience of faith.
§Romans 1:5
5 through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith among all the Gentiles for His name's sake,
Let's make this very clear so that you do not take out of context what I write:
AFTER we are born again....
we are REQUIRED to obey God.
Those that DO NOT believe in God....
are not required to obey.

Jesus taught that we are to do the will of the Father.
Jesus taught good works.
Just as Paul did.
If you do not agree, please post some verses that state that it is not necessary to obey God...or the teachings of Jesus - which is the same.

Matthew 7:19
19 "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:21
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
Matthew 7:24
24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock.
Matthew 25:44-46
44 "Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'
45 "Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent * that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.'
46 "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."


JESUS taught that we are to obey Him.
To bear good fruit.
To do the will of the Father.
To ACT on His words/teachings.
To do good works for mankind.

Jesus taught this...
not me.

If you believe obedience to God is not necessary, some verses stating this would be helpful.

 

[George1]

Christianity is a set faith.
We do not bring OUR OPINION to this faith system.
It is necessary to use scripture when posting on theology.
The Christian religion cannot be changed to suit your opinion.

Well, I bring there my opinion. I always use scripture.
Believe me, whatever it preaches, no matter who, cannot suit me. My opinion is on first place for me and I will use only my opinion whatever I am talking! Sorry to dissapoint you, but this is me. You can seek saints and angels, but if you talk with me you will have my opinion.

 

[GodsGrace]

Well, I bring there my opinion. I always use scripture.
Believe me, whatever it preaches, no matter who, cannot suit me. My opinion is on first place for me and I will use only my opinion whatever I am talking! Sorry to dissapoint you, but this is me. You can seek saints and angels, but if you talk with me you will have my opinion.

I prefer the bible over your opinion.
It would be interesting to know what you think the word SAINT means.

Also, I think I forgot to welcome you to the Forum.

 

[George1]

I prefer the bible over your opinion.
It would be interesting to know what you think the word SAINT means.

Also, I think I forgot to welcome you to the Forum.

Thanks.

The saints are the sons of the light. The highest in God.

 

[GodsGrace]

Thanks.

The saints are the sons of the light. The highest in God.

A saint is a person that is set aside for service to God.

Thanks for your reply.

 

[JLB]

It is about the ten commandments, this is how one goes to Heaven. Those verses reflect the ten commandments as well.

In the New Covenant we are obligated to obey His commandments.

The Ten Commandments according to the law of Moses included strict Sabbath keeping requirements that were punishable by death.

Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Exodus 31:15

Obviously we don’t do that in the New Covenant.


Under the New Covenant, the laws and commandments are written on our heart and mind.

The Holy Spirit leads us and guides us to walk in these things.

His commandments are the way of love: loving God and loving people.

For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3


Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:8-10


My main point is the weekly Sabbath is a day for man to rest, and actually points to the rest to come.