JLB, re-read the whole post #14. Matthew and Luke are foretelling the same event, including the same 'woe to women who are with child'.
Matthew 24:15-17 "Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (whoever reads, let him understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be."
Luke foretells the SAME EVENT:
Luke 21:20-24 "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled."
Luke, a Gentile convert, recalls Jesus' prophecy that warns of the armies that will surround Jerusalem, and as a result, desolation is near (re-read Luke 21:20). Matthew, a Jew, calls these same armies that Jesus spoke of; the "abomination of desolation." If you can't put this one together, there's nothing I can do for you my brother. Peace.
That's the problem.
Your trying to put together something that needs to be carefully and rightly divided.
Matthew clearly refers to Daniel. Luke 21 does not
15 "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,'
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand),
Matthew and Mark record Jesus giving the famous Olivet Discourse, which is a private meeting away from the Temple on the Mount of Olives.
Luke records a different conversation that takes place in the Temple.
Now, right I have to ask you why you would "lump" these two conversations together as one. They are in different settings at different times and and they involve different things, but they do have a thing in common, Jerusalem.
Jerusalem is the common denominator. But at different times.
Understanding what Daniel speaks of is the key!
26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate."
Daniel 9:26-27
Verse 26 shows the city and sanctuary as being destroyed. That happened in 70 AD.
Today we see that the city has been rebuilt.
Today we see that the Temple is about to be rebuilt also.
Verse 27 speaks of a time, some time after 70 AD, when sacrifice and offering will begin again.
But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
Verse 27 speaks of a time after the temple is destroyed, that the Abomination language comes into play.
on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Two different events in the same place, Jerusalem.
JLB