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I have read them all. but we cant force man to serve jesus. you protest when the humanist force their views on you but then don't mind if you force ours on them.
the nation didn't even have a pledge until the 1890's and under god wasn't even until 1954. the nation wasn't meant to be a theocracy. which demonation should have reign in said schools. the majority of my county isn't pentacostal. I am. so I should force my kids to hear the anti tounge rants of the Baptists? I would love for men to do that but it must come from the heart not laws.
others change the first amendment to only Christians may be in America. people will come here and they will have differing views and not all will be Christians. the church could have stopped that but it didn't. the issue is that not all states had mandated bible studies, in fact on three states did it when it was banned all the others stopped. so to blame the scotus when that trend was already happening is wrong. they went with the prevailing view.
so Christ said to set up a theocracy? if what you said is true then why did the founders actually want the first amendment. it would be easier to have a unique culture of Christians only. sure they wanted it but they said only if the people wanted it. was it the goverments job to actually teach the bible. if so show me in the constitution? or was it the church.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abington_School_District_v._Schempp
cases that lead up to this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantwell_v._Connecticut
1940!
1947!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everson_v._Board_of_Education
now then if the constution was only for the states then ok each state could then ban guns and impose speech limits. careful what one asks for one just might get it. im sure you like guns. I do. the second amendment has been ruled to apply to all states. a federal theocracy is no better then a state one and vice versa!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollum_v._Board_of_Education
1948 and well jews were having classes in schools they were voluntary. imagine that.
if we allow one Christian in office to pray using his position then all must or none. the first admendment allows the government to be neutral.
That term, "natural man," in routinely found in the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible.
JLB,
I inquired about this verse:
“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28)
Are you saying Stephen saw the son of Man coming in his Kingdom?
Thanks,
Dan
It is also found in the original King James, only in that one verse. I thought it ironic that you use the same term as Scofield, and profess much of the same Darby doctrine: third temple, "this generation" is open-ended, etc.But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14
This is found in the Bible. NKJV
JLB
Who were the others? Recall Jesus said,You can see plainly what I said concerning Stephen.
John saw Jesus Coming in His kingdom...
11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:11-16
John saw it before He tasted death.
JLB
I understand. Jesus was not talking about coming in their lifetime; only that one or more would see a vision of him coming in the future. That makes sense.
Now help me understand this. Matthew 10 begins with this verse:
"And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease." (Matthew 10:23)
Then Jesus sent them (with their newly received powers) to the lost sheep of the house of Israel:
“These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.” (Matthew 10:5-8)
Then he gives them various warnings about what will occur during their journeys. And he says this:
“But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.” (Matthew 10:23)
Jesus continues with his instructions to his disciples until the end of the chapter. The next chapter begins with this verse:
"And it came to pass, when Jesus had made an end of commanding his twelve disciples, he departed thence to teach and to preach in their cities." (Matthew 11:1)
Help me reconcile Matthew 10:23. How can it be a prophecy of the distant future?
Thanks,
Dan
Who were the others? Recall Jesus said,
"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." (Matt 16:28)
"And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power." (Mark 9:1)
"But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God." (Luke 9:27)
It is also found in the original King James, only in that one verse. I thought it ironic that you use the same term as Scofield, and profess much of the same Darby doctrine: third temple, "this generation" is open-ended, etc.
Who said Jesus words in Matthew 10:23 were a prophecy about the distant future.
JLB
He sent out His disciples and they came back and reported to Him when He came to them again.
Who said Jesus words in Matthew 10:23 were a prophecy about the distant future.
He sent out His disciples and they came back and reported to Him when He came to them again.
You can read this same account in Luke 10 as well.
Even the demons are subject to us in your name....
JLB
I found it:
"And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where." (Luke 9:6)
" And the apostles, when they were returned, told him all that they had done. And he took them, and went aside privately into a desert place belonging to the city called Bethsaida." (Luke 9:10)
So the coming of Jesus happened sometime during those five verses?
I don't think so. I believe their mission was open-ended, and Jesus' coming happened before they had visited all the cities of Israel, just like Jesus said:
“But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come” (Matthew 10:23)
Dan
Yes, that is very ironic, that two different people would use the same biblical phrase.
Very ironic!
JLB
You can read for yourself, that they returned to Him after He said that in Matthew 10:23
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