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    The salacious life of Joseph Smith

    If you look deeply into the most recent historical research, you will find the evidence stacks up in Joseph Smith's favor, in that he never committed adultery and that he was not married for time to anyone who was also married to someone else. If you consider Joseph Smith as someone who built a...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    I also hesitate to call anyone a liar. I searched their website for such a quote and couldn't find it. Did you learn of this from someone else quoting from that web site or did you see it there yourself? I think this could just be a misunderstanding of what they may have said. I will not...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    By Grace, I am not trying to set any traps for you. The reason it is important for me to point out where you are quoting things from the wrong Mormon sources is that by continually doing it, you show that you are simply repeating commentary from critics of the church instead of learning from the...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    This is the best reply yet to my first post. It is well thought out and expressed. Thanks.
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    Other Gods/gods?

    That's putting it mildly.
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    Other Gods/gods?

    Webb, I want to thank you for bringing some humor into this thread. I read your question to my sick wife and she burst out laughing. It's always nice to laugh a little when you're sick. I couldn't resist laughing out loud either. Most apostles give up top paying jobs to serve what is like two...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    Then you need to go back and read verse 9 of John 1, for it clearly states that this light enlightens EVERYONE. The KJV says EVERY MAN THAT COMETH INTO THE WORLD. I am well aware of what the Bible teaches in the verses you quote here. They are in complete agreement with everything that...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    Pointing out the risks of faith in other gods/lords or christs assumes that I am advocating such risks. I am not, never have and never would. I am not suggesting that any Christian need go outside Christianity to find the teachings of Christ. I am only exploring the attitude of Christians...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    Polytheism is about multiple alternative gods, who compete with one another and especially with the only true God of the Bible for our worship. There is nothing in Mormonism that even comes close to this. Mormonism doesn’t even teach that there are gods that are even worthy of our worship other...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    First of all, could you please give me a reference where the Book of Mormon discusses Jesus being exalted through eternal progression? In the dozens of times I have read it I have never come across this teaching in the BofM. Second, you say nothing in the BofM can be supported by the Bible, so...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    First of all, Mormonism is not polytheistic in the strict definition of the word. Second, the concept of “other gods” is very much a Biblical concept. The Bible teaches this concept in many places and in multiple ways. Mostly it teaches the people of Israel to not worship or serve them. After...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    You sure do like to talk a lot about Mormonism. This thread is not about Mormonism. It is clear to anyone aware of what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches or their methods and motives that your conclusions about such are at best the result of a very active imagination. I...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    By Grace, you are assuming wrong here. This has nothing to do with promoting Mormonism. I am discussing the meaning of a scripture in the New Testament and that is all I intend this discussion to be about. I said nothing here about worshiping other gods. I am only considering how God loves all...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    I was pondering the meaning of John 1:9 and thought this could be a logical conclusion of what it is saying.
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    Other Gods/gods?

    Yes, but it says in verse 9 that this light, lighteth every man that cometh into the world. This is obvious to me to be saying that it influences, in some way, every man. How do you believe all men experience that influence if not as their conscience?
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    You are changing the English language to mean what you want it to mean in order to prove your point. First of all, I we have been using the word became, not become. There is a big difference. Became means that something was once different that it IS now. The word IS only refers to the the...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Actually, every one of the above twelve statements about the Godhead can be understood in a way to be in complete harmony with Mormon doctrine. I do have a hard time understanding, however, why someone who believes the Bible to be the complete word of God would reference a creed of man to...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I think this is a great idea. Since you believe in the Bible only, perhaps you could start with a Bible quote or quotes descriptive of a characteristic of Jesus Christ. Since I am more familiar with the Book of Mormon, I will see if I can find a reference or references in it that I believe match...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    When anything or person becomes something, it is usually just assumed that they still are the thing they became unless otherwise stated. Mormons believe that Jesus IS and was the great I Am from before the foundation of the world, which is exactly what the Bible teaches. Mormons also believe in...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    Okay. Fine. I am okay with the fact that you do not believe that the light of Christ is the same as or a part of our conscience. How then, in your opinion, does the light of Christ spoken of in John 1 influence us?
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