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    Why do you believe?

    I read the Bible as I would any other religious or historical document. That's not a reason, it's the belief itself. "I choose to believe in God because I choose" :gah Explain this further please. I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist. If you give me some evidence then I'm fine with believing...
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    contradictions in the bible

    I think what he was getting at is either the Bible was the inspired work of the creator of the universe or it's not. I've read it, and it has changed my life for the better. But so has the Quran lol, and all the mythical Gods of Greece. I know what you're getting at, and I'll have to...
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    contradictions in the bible

    I agree, it's invaluable, but I do not believe that it's the inspired word of God, I have almost no evidence in an area that would require more evidence than we have for any of the comparatively weak claims of evolution or cosmological physics.
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    Atheist Dialog 1: Euthyphro Dilemma

    But perfectly what lol. On a degree of 0-100% where 100% is perfection at doing something and 0% is not doing it at all perfection is simply doing something with 100% efficiency. Ok, so he can do moral acts with 100% efficiency, that still doesn't answer the question of what those moral acts...
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    contradictions in the bible

    (Atheist here) I find the Bible to be an interesting photograph of the time period, in the same way that Greek Mythology is of a few hundred years earlier, or that the Quran is of the common era. I don't want the Bible to disappear, it's an invaluable source (As is the mythology of Greece). You...
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    [_ Old Earth _] BANG!

    I've always found it strange how people ask "Is it possible?" when discussing an omnipotent being lol. That's the beauty of cosmology, it makes God possible, but it also makes him not possible. There's no problem with believing that God started it all (Although I find it rather futile in the...
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    Why do you believe?

    Very well, I'll just ignore this unsubstantiated claim then. How is it different? They have the same experiences that you do, just with Krishnah and Mohammad lol You have no reason to think it was the HS either. The exclusion of some other options you can think of doesn't automatically mean...
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    A hypothetical about Heaven :)

    Yes. He knows everything, therefore he knows how my life will turn out. Provide me a better way to determine truth than using evidence. The fire isn't a sentient being. If you walked to the shops to get your food and someone jumped out and shot you 7 times in the chest is that person...
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    A hypothetical about Heaven :)

    Okay, so he creates me knowing that I'll be tortured for all eternity in infinite pain lol. Just because I used the logic he gave me I deserve to be tortured for all eternity? Is that was an infinitely loving being would do? It doesn't make sense to me why he's so crazy about people believing...
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    Why do you believe?

    Such as? Just like they have in Islam or Hinduism? How do you know it was the Holy Spirit? Such as? Elaborate. Such as? I did a very interesting experiment with my then Christian (He saw the light and deconverted :p) friend, we both prayed for things (Such as the healing of loved ones). The...
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    How about taking Christ OUT of Christmas?

    Exactly, that's why it's not a naturally Christian holiday. If you define Christmas as a day where we all celebrate the birth of Jesus then I (And most of the population) don't celebrate it. Does celebration of Halloween mean you secretly believe in Demons lol?
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    A hypothetical about Heaven :)

    Technically life in Hell is still eternal :lol Sure, if after I'm dead the Christian God came up to me and said "Now do you believe!" I'd of course say yes lol, but if he wants be to unjustly believe down here then I suppose he's predestined me to Hell (Why make me anyway if he knew I was just...
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    Why do you believe?

    I'm asking why you believe and you're saying "Because I chose to believe" What do you mean that you always knew? How do you know lol. There must be some reason for your belief, was it just a fuzzy feeling when someone mentioned Jesus lol? Surprisingly (really?) by far the most common answer...
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    Why do you believe?

    Simple question: Why do you believe? I'm not asking what you believe, there's a difference lol. Thanks.
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    How about taking Christ OUT of Christmas?

    Spose I'll start off. This video explains the Pagan connections very well: [youtube:1ozczs8x]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_s9NWchEo8&feature=sub[/youtube:1ozczs8x]
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    [_ Old Earth _] Literal or Figurative 6 Day Creation

    Personally I think that there are several things that are certainly literal in the Bible and there's simply no way of getting around them. When your God spends a few chapters committing genocide and killing children you can't get out of it, there's no symbolic interpretation lol. Genesis is...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Is evolution a fact or a theory?

    If you're saying that scientists don't get to change the definition of theory then it's not the word theory that's important lol, you could call them skwarks for all I care, it's about the definition. In Science, a theory is a hypothesis (An explanation of patterns in facts) that has passed the...
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    [_ Old Earth _] When did humans seperate from apes?

    We're still apes, we never separated from them lol. By every definition of an ape we are an ape lol.
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