Re: A fair challenge
Dear fizzy, the only "scholarly" arguement that has been put forth to "refute" panin's work is that there are numerics found in poems and certain books. Well yes , they where put there, by design, by the authors IE on purpose. This doesnt refute panin's findings that the author of the bible AKA God put them there, it confirms it. ( you need to remember that Panin didn't invent this formula or put it there, he was simply used by God to reveal it to us) Also you cannot compare the pattems in the bible to Moby Dick or the Iliad or a Edgar Alan Poe poem, they don't compare.
The muslims claim there are numerics in the Koran, they dont compare.
Also a thing that may interest you is the phenomenon of bible numerics has aided in the restoration of the word of God as it was originally given. Oh is that right? Yes it is!!!.
Before Panins discovery, all the worlds concordances stated that moses was mentioned in the New Testament 79 times, but this did not correlate with the mathematical fromula panin discovered, so he counted them all again and discoverd that Moses was infact mentioned 80 times, and this of course did fit in with the formula.
It is a check and measure that God put there and it has been used to preserve and restore His word. God aint silly and he aint dumb.
It is evidence of design no less. Who is the designer? I will leave that up to you to decide.
Many of the some 3000 queries that Westcott and Hort left unanswered in the bible have been corrected by Panin. Today I have in my hands the innerrant word of God. God promised to preserve His word, He promised that not one jot or title would pass away, (and thats more than the preserving of just the words, its the presvervation of puntuation marks and paragraphs and fullstops and commas etc etc etc) and He has done just that. How did you think God was going to do this preservation work with out some sort of mathematical plumb line when all and sundry (including the very church of Christ) are crying foul that we do not have the word of God today?????????
Answer me that with a straight face.
Panins work was built upon at least 100 years work by other dedicated bible scholars and Panins work alone took well over 50 years. So we are talking about 150 to 200 years worth of work in restoring the scripture to the original after it was near obliterated some 300 years AD.
The arguements always go from mocking the validity to discounting the validty. But the evidence doesn't move or change.
As for recommending me some extra reading, my I suggest you that read some of Panins works before you go comparing it to Moby Dick.
God bless.
Dear fizzy, the only "scholarly" arguement that has been put forth to "refute" panin's work is that there are numerics found in poems and certain books. Well yes , they where put there, by design, by the authors IE on purpose. This doesnt refute panin's findings that the author of the bible AKA God put them there, it confirms it. ( you need to remember that Panin didn't invent this formula or put it there, he was simply used by God to reveal it to us) Also you cannot compare the pattems in the bible to Moby Dick or the Iliad or a Edgar Alan Poe poem, they don't compare.
The muslims claim there are numerics in the Koran, they dont compare.
Also a thing that may interest you is the phenomenon of bible numerics has aided in the restoration of the word of God as it was originally given. Oh is that right? Yes it is!!!.
Before Panins discovery, all the worlds concordances stated that moses was mentioned in the New Testament 79 times, but this did not correlate with the mathematical fromula panin discovered, so he counted them all again and discoverd that Moses was infact mentioned 80 times, and this of course did fit in with the formula.
It is a check and measure that God put there and it has been used to preserve and restore His word. God aint silly and he aint dumb.
It is evidence of design no less. Who is the designer? I will leave that up to you to decide.
Many of the some 3000 queries that Westcott and Hort left unanswered in the bible have been corrected by Panin. Today I have in my hands the innerrant word of God. God promised to preserve His word, He promised that not one jot or title would pass away, (and thats more than the preserving of just the words, its the presvervation of puntuation marks and paragraphs and fullstops and commas etc etc etc) and He has done just that. How did you think God was going to do this preservation work with out some sort of mathematical plumb line when all and sundry (including the very church of Christ) are crying foul that we do not have the word of God today?????????
Answer me that with a straight face.
Panins work was built upon at least 100 years work by other dedicated bible scholars and Panins work alone took well over 50 years. So we are talking about 150 to 200 years worth of work in restoring the scripture to the original after it was near obliterated some 300 years AD.
The arguements always go from mocking the validity to discounting the validty. But the evidence doesn't move or change.
As for recommending me some extra reading, my I suggest you that read some of Panins works before you go comparing it to Moby Dick.
God bless.
