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    The Remmant

    So if Christ is ruling right now at this moment. He comes back at the second advent to Judge His rulership with fire? Was the Flood a judgement of His own rulership? Is God making mistakes in His rulership on this planet? Or Has God Decreed a time for Satan to rule?
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    God does not love all people

    Josefno have you ever studied what Gods PURPOSE in election is? what do you consider the PURPOSE to be? "Hate" in the bible is called an 'Anthropopathism'. That means to use human terms to attempt to describe characteristics of God . . . though God does not have the emotions like human 'love...
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    OSAS is biblical truth. - Part 2

    Re: OSAS is biblical truth. Acts 16:31~~ The word believe, or pisteuo, is an aorist tense. With an aorist tense being used, it means that at the exact point of time that you believe, God saves you. In addition to the aorist tense, the word believe, or pisteuo, is an active voice. The active...
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    John 15:2-6 proves damnation can follow salvation

    Here is Romans 8:1 parsed from the original language: *26th ed. Nestles, Allen Text, American Bible Society; New York **Gramcord Institute, 2218 NE Brookview Dr,; Vancouver WA 98686 *Greek ConC/Wrd==**Parsing ============ ==== Trans. of ROM 8: 1 T/ord oudeis 3762 neu...
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    OSAS is biblical truth. - Part 2

    Re: OSAS is biblical truth. Both of these views are false. The Bible says Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. The moment one believes on the Lord Jesus Christ He/she is saved forever, irrevocable, eternal. Here is the Gospel witness: If you have not yet believed in Jesus...
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    The Remmant

    So if Christ is ruling right now at this moment. He comes back at the second advent to Judge His rulership with fire? Was the Flood a judgement of His own rulership? Is God making mistakes in His rulership on this planet? Or Has God Decreed a time for Satan to rule?
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    OSAS is biblical truth. - Part 2

    Re: OSAS is biblical truth. As to perseverance of the Saints(calvinism) and Losing salvation(Armin.) they are one in the same at the end of it all. One says ," If you don't persevere and show fruit, you really were not saved." works based salvation. The other says," if you do not persevere...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    As to perseverance of the Saints(calvinism) and Losing salvation(Armin.) they are one in the same at the end of it all. One says ," If you don't persevere and show fruit, you really were not saved." works based salvation. The other says," if you do not persevere and show fruit, you will lose...
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    OSAS is biblical truth. - Part 2

    OSAS is biblical truth. If all the verses that are used for conditional security are truly showing Christians that God will toss believers in the lake of Fire. Then will conditional security adherents please disprove all the eternally secure verses? Lets start with Eph 2:8 for starters. John...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Jethro, Post #44 is where you and I differ. Because Jethro, we are saved at a moment in time. the moment we believe we are saved and saved forever. Acts 16:31~~ The word believe, or pisteuo, is an aorist tense. With an aorist tense being used, it means that at the exact point of time that you...
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    God does not love all people

    common sense goes a long way with this also. God the ultimate authority in the universe, tells ALL of us to LOVE EVERYBODY, deal righteously with EVERYBODY, Be JUST with everybody. We even have a saying on this planet that most people know,"Do as I say, not as I act." Most all normal persons...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    We don't "give our life to the lord" to be saved. We believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and His work on the Cross. 2 Tim 2:11-13~~11~~FAITHFUL . . . {IS} THE WORD/DOCTRINE. "For you see . . . if we have died with Him {Christ} - and we have - at the same time also, we shall also live with Him...
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    John 15:2-6 proves damnation can follow salvation

    Good post. Eternal security is a KEY doctrine in growing spiritually. God eternally saved us the moment we believed. We have to live in that truth to grow spiritually.
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Grace alone through Faith alone in Christ alone. The behavior and Integrity of the Creator saves a person not the behavior or integrity of the creature. “Whosoever believes in me will not perish, but have everlasting life.” Jn 3:15 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Rev 3:5~~'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. 1 John 5:5~~Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God...
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    Who are we to judge?

    Jethro, I will Go put some air in that tire! The Possum grease was a spillen! Have a great day Brother.(Going to go pick some huckleberries)....thats for real though!:)
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    2 Cor 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ [and he is], [he is] a new creature [spiritual species]; the old things passed away [lost their power]; behold, new things [invisible assets plus the predesigned plan of God] have come. kaine ktisis [new spiritual species] 1Pet 1:23 for you have been...
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    God does not love all people

    I second this on the whole! Good post.:)
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    Who are we to judge?

    Hello Jethro, This will sting and I know its a touchy subject but Give it some thought please. We will Judge if we think we can lose our salvation or if we think WE have to persevere. We have to have some sort of scale to stay saved. So we are always looking to that scale to see if we are...
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    Heaven and hell BEFORE judgment day

    2 Cor 5:8~~we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord. "Be at Home"~~evdnmew 1736 aor act --- -- ---infn be home ......The Aorist tense expresses the Action at a point not over a duration. "Home" has the implication of...
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