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100% Acceptance Of Homosexuality By 2040?

"This is what the LGBT are fighting for to eliminate the hatred of those who cause hate crimes against them, but yet they refuse to acknowledge that what they practice is an abomination to God and they too will have their place in the lake of fire." is self-contradictory.
No, it's not self-contradictory, but the very word of God. He is the one who said it is an abomination to Him.
 
Hint: you're not God.

John 3:16-18a, " For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone [including LGBTQs] who believes in him will not perish[al] but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. The one who believes in him is not condemned."

That's plain and clear (even if you can't accept it).
Then that would mean even Satan would not be condemned by how you added to that verse as he believes Jesus is real.

All who will believe and confess Christ as Lord and Savior will also be obedient to His commands. How can the LGBT be obedient to His commands if they are an abomination to Him.
 
Hint: you're not God.

John 3:16-18a, " For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone [including LGBTQs] who believes in him will not perish[al] but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. The one who believes in him is not condemned."

That's plain and clear (even if you can't accept it).
Quit adding to scripture.
 
Hint: you're not God.
I'm not God, but I try my best to be obedient to His commands.

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Hosea 4:7 As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame.
 
No, it's not self-contradictory, but the very word of God. He is the one who said it is an abomination to Him.

As is all sin. Romans 1:29-32, "They [the idolaters who reject God] are filled with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, senseless, covenant-breakers, heartless, ruthless. Although they fully know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die they not only do them but also approve of those who practice them."

That is quite a list, yet the focus by those obsessed with homosexuality is on only one sin. IMHO that says more about them that it does about those of us who recognize all sins as contrary to God's will.
 
As is all sin. Romans 1:29-32, "They [the idolaters who reject God] are filled with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, senseless, covenant-breakers, heartless, ruthless. Although they fully know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die they not only do them but also approve of those who practice them."

That is quite a list, yet the focus by those obsessed with homosexuality is on only one sin. IMHO that says more about them that it does about those of us who recognize all sins as contrary to God's will.
If you want to support the LGBT then that is between you and God.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
 
If you want to support the LGBT then that is between you and God.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

I tolerate sin and follow the command to love my neighbor as myself. I don't wallow in self-righteousness while judging others.

Romans 3:21-24, " But now apart from the law the righteousness of God (although it is attested by the law and the prophets) has been disclosed— namely, the righteousness of God through the faithfulness of Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. But they are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.

Jesus told us do do two things: Love God and love our neighbor as ourselves. It may make some "Christians" feel (falsely) good about judging others, but they are clearly violating Jesus' commandments.

I am not supporting LGBTQs by loving them; I am following Jesus' command.
 
I tolerate sin and follow the command to love my neighbor as myself. I don't wallow in self-righteousness while judging others.
You might tolerate sin, but I know God does not.

I am judging no one, but only giving what God has already said. If you have a problem with that then take it up with God.

I never said I hated those who are of the LGBT, but I do pray that they would turn back to God an repent of their sin that is an abomination before Him. You can reject what God said as that is your choice.
 
You might tolerate sin, but I know God does not.

I am judging no one, but only giving what God has already said. If you have a problem with that then take it up with God.

I never said I hated those who are of the LGBT, but I do pray that they would turn back to God an repent of their sin that is an abomination before Him. You can reject what God said as that is your choice.
If God doesn't tolerate sin why hasn't He destroyed everyone? He is patient, wanting all to come to repentance. We should do the same.

You are judging people. You are clearly judging LGBTQs. They are sinners, but so is everyone that hasn't been born again. Here is a list of just some sins from Romans 1 that people commit: They are filled with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, senseless, covenant-breakers,[bi] heartless, ruthless. So why aren't you judging those people along with LGBTQs?

I know the reason: because the media has diverted your mind away from those other sins. But they are all equally guilty before God.
 
The LGBTQ community is a minority in this country. I think it seems bigger than it actually is with companies starting to adopt it and all that is needed is the wrong powers in charge pressing it. The media Of course it's a growing social trend and has been over the past many years, but I'm not sure if there will ever be 100% acceptance, not as long as there are God-following; Bible-believing Christians out there or as long as there are those that may not be Christian that still disagree. I'm not sure if I can believe as many as 78% presently are okay with it, these numbers sound inflated.

Of course I don't know everything and we'll see what come sin the following years, but I do believe more churches need to learn how to evangelize effectively to these individuals. I've encountered so many churches that wouldn't even know what to say or say the wrong thing, which chases these people further from church.
 
Polls also consistently show that people wildly overestimate the prevalence of homosexuality, with 25% being a common estimate. Based on my experience of 72 years of living, I believe the entire LGBTQ movement is largely a fad - just as it was trendy (believe it or not) to be a Jesus freak when I was in college, it's now trendy to claim to be somewhere on the LGBTQ(+++blah-blah-blah) spectrum. That being said, I also believe it's a diabolically inspired fad - just another facet of the End Times descent into depravity our society is experiencing.

I've had a couple of gay friends, with their sexuality simply being irrelevant in the context of our friendship. In my first 65 years of living, however, I never met anyone who was even vaguely transgender or otherwise gender-confused, which makes me highly dubious of the reality of that "phenomenon."

The whole LGBTQ thing would scarcely even be on my radar screen if they weren't aggressively seeking to normalize and require me to celebrate their behavior (and, correspondingly, to shout down my Christian values). It would be just another behavior the Bible condemns that I would leave to God to deal with as he sees fit.

The basic issue is that almost all of these modern "movements" are directly contrary to God's plan for humanity - be it no-fault divorce, the acceptance of cohabitation, the feminist movement or the LGBTQ movement. Add them all up and our society is descending deeper and deeper into depravity, to the edge of a complete moral collapse.

Yes, and greetings Runner.

I was discussing this on another forum, and one person commented, "I feel like for the most part gay people are super chill and just want to live their lives like everyone else."

My response was that I didn't think the typical homosexual was the problem either. I don't see them differently than anyone else, at least so long as they are not throwing their sexuality out there, and I make friends with them easily and get along with them well, even when they know full well what my beliefs are. My real worry is with governments in the West. I don't think are honestly particularly concerned with the welfare of homosexuals near so much as wanting to undermine the influence of Christianity in Western society.

That may come off as something of a "conspiracy theory," but I have been around long enough to see a number of trends leading in that direction. Biblical Christianity is not just viewed as "outdated" but as the enemy, so I suspect they will attempt to eradicate its influence, one way or the other.
 
If God doesn't tolerate sin why hasn't He destroyed everyone? He is patient, wanting all to come to repentance. We should do the same.

You are judging people. You are clearly judging LGBTQs. They are sinners, but so is everyone that hasn't been born again. Here is a list of just some sins from Romans 1 that people commit: They are filled with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, senseless, covenant-breakers,[bi] heartless, ruthless. So why aren't you judging those people along with LGBTQs?

I know the reason: because the media has diverted your mind away from those other sins. But they are all equally guilty before God.
There is no sin greater than another as sin is sin and transgresses against God who is the sole judge of all of us. It's only when we recognize our sin after knowing the truth and repent of it is when we are forgiven and not to turn back to that same sin. None of us are perfect, but yet as being Christ own we are not to sin willfully, especially after knowing the truth.


Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
 
The LGBTQ community is a minority in this country. I think it seems bigger than it actually is with companies starting to adopt it and all that is needed is the wrong powers in charge pressing it. The media Of course it's a growing social trend and has been over the past many years, but I'm not sure if there will ever be 100% acceptance, not as long as there are God-following; Bible-believing Christians out there or as long as there are those that may not be Christian that still disagree. I'm not sure if I can believe as many as 78% presently are okay with it, these numbers sound inflated.

Of course I don't know everything and we'll see what come sin the following years, but I do believe more churches need to learn how to evangelize effectively to these individuals. I've encountered so many churches that wouldn't even know what to say or say the wrong thing, which chases these people further from church.
Back in the early 2000's the Gothic look was trending in our youth. There were some that came to a local church where I use to live and were told to leave as they would end up influencing their youth. Well, I say those youth in that church should have been a Christian influence to those others that came to seek Christ through that Church. Thank God these youths ended up coming to the Church I was attending and came to know Christ.
 
That is quite a list, yet the focus by those obsessed with homosexuality is on only one sin. IMHO that says more about them that it does about those of us who recognize all sins as contrary to God's will.
This is a legitimate point that I've often made myself. The extent to which the Christian community has winked at or completely caved on fornication, cohabitation, adultery and divorce can make the focus on homosexuality seem like a weird obsession and all the ranting sound hypocritical and hollow. Surely fornication, cohabitation, no-fault divorce and adultery are a far greater threat to God's plan for marriage and the family than homosexuality could ever be (not to mention the feminist movement, probably the greatest threat of all). I tend to think the focus on homosexuality is partly because homosexual practices seem particularly "icky" to many of us and mostly because the LGBTQ community has become so militant and threatening in its demands that these practices must be normalized and celebrated and Christians should just shut up and go away.
I am not supporting LGBTQs by loving them; I am following Jesus' command.
"Loving" someone who is engaging in sinful activity does not require tolerating or celebrating their sin. This isn't the biblical concept. As I said above, I've had good friends who were gay, and their homosexuality simply wasn't relevant in the context of our friendship. I didn't feel obligated to say anything to them one way or another about homosexuality; the subject just never came up, any more than my sex life with my wife did. Had they begun haranguing me about the virtues of homosexuality and what narrow-minded bigots Christians are, that would have been a different matter. If I were actively witnessing to someone living a homosexual lifestyle, it would be pretty difficult to avoid the topic (and I wouldn't).

I participated on a forum where there were three distinct threads, each with thousands of posts, about Christianity and the LGBTQ community. The entire premise of every thread was that Christians are narrow-minded, hating bigots who threaten every gay person with hellfire at every opportunity. When I pointed out that this isn't even vaguely true, they didn't want to hear it. The truth didn't fit the "LGBTQ narrative."
 
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him."

Jaybo, people get saved when they repent. Some teach that there's no need for it, but this is incorrect.

Watch the following clip embedded in this article. It shows multiple gay men (five in a row at least) riding bikes naked, and showing their business with young children looking on during a Seattle "Gay Pride" parade last weekend.

Would God condemn such men if they identified as "Christians" and were doing so?
https://www.opindia.com/2022/06/us-nude-adults-cycle-in-the-seattle-pride-parade-as-children-watch/
 
Just saw something interesting. A recent Gallup poll is showing that 71% of respondents now say homosexuality is morally acceptable, with only 28% saying it is not. That amounts to a 30% jump in those who favor it (up from 40% to 70%) in just two decades.

If this is the case, and if that's how quickly public opinion is changing, we should assume that Western society will be approaching almost universal acceptance within just the next 20 years. I wonder how many Christians will still stand for what the word of God actually teaches on the subject by 2040.

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Isaiah 3:9
The expression of their faces bears witness against them,
And they display their sin like Sodom;
They do not even conceal it.
Woe to them!
For they have brought evil on themselves.
Isaiah 13:19
And Babylon, the beauty of kingdoms, the glory of the Chaldeans’ pride,
Will be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

Revelation 18:
2And he cried out in a mighty voice: “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a lair for demons and a haunt for every unclean spirit, every unclean bird, and every detestable beast. 3All the nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her immorality. The kings of the earth were immoral with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown wealthy from the extravagance of her luxury." 4Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues. 5For her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.…

Romans 1:25-27

Revised Standard Version
25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.​

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
 
Back in the early 2000's the Gothic look was trending in our youth. There were some that came to a local church where I use to live and were told to leave as they would end up influencing their youth. Well, I say those youth in that church should have been a Christian influence to those others that came to seek Christ through that Church. Thank God these youths ended up coming to the Church I was attending and came to know Christ.
I think the gothic look is still very much alive today, but perhaps not to the extent it was when it was catching on in popularity. I remember how middle school/high school was in those times for sure. Although, I don't mind the gothic look or emo or even multi-colored goth, but I think it depends to the extent people carried that look or what their intention was behind it.

It is sad to hear that they got kicked out of church for their dress because for sure there could've been a strong witnessing point for those already within the church for sure! I can imagine how that would happen, though...I've seen even homeless get talked about so bad in some churches and made feel so unwelcome that they leave.

I am glad that this ending was a good one that they came to know Christ, that is wonderful!
 
I think the gothic look is still very much alive today, but perhaps not to the extent it was when it was catching on in popularity. I remember how middle school/high school was in those times for sure. Although, I don't mind the gothic look or emo or even multi-colored goth, but I think it depends to the extent people carried that look or what their intention was behind it.

It is sad to hear that they got kicked out of church for their dress because for sure there could've been a strong witnessing point for those already within the church for sure! I can imagine how that would happen, though...I've seen even homeless get talked about so bad in some churches and made feel so unwelcome that they leave.

I am glad that this ending was a good one that they came to know Christ, that is wonderful!
Like the saying goes, never judge a book by its cover.
 
Like the saying goes, never judge a book by its cover.
Are you saying it might look like Nightmare on Elm Street and actually be a romance novel? In any case there are certain people who are best left to seeking help in an assembly. I would not be inviting them back to my house. But that's just me. A cover does give indication of what kind of book you will be reading, let's hope it has a happy ending. Probably should let the Author of Life rewrite that.
 
Are you saying it might look like Nightmare on Elm Street and actually be a romance novel? In any case there are certain people who are best left to seeking help in an assembly. I would not be inviting them back to my house. But that's just me. A cover does give indication of what kind of book you will be reading, let's hope it has a happy ending. Probably should let the Author of Life rewrite that.
Man judges the outside, but only God can see the intents of the heart.
 
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