100% Acceptance Of Homosexuality By 2040?

[God Is My Judge]

Man judges the outside, but only God can see the intents of the heart.

Clearly. One must guard his heart with due diligence, for from it comes forth the issues of life. You do know with the goth lifestyle are many issues. The fallen nature also means a need for a right and renewed heart. As it stands, it by the desires of the heart that people are lead astray. The goth lifestyle seeks to be an affront to God and society. They pretty much where their hearts on their faces and sleeves. With that said, it is by hearing that you receive. If some do an about- face when hearing the good news, great! But it is a fact that children of God can see the intent of peoples hearts. Just as it is clear the intention in here. Will a new and right heart be given? I know not all theives come in rough attire they even call themselves Christian. People should be better at keeping watch and guarding their hearts.
Moral of the story, I'll assume the worst until people show they will choose the best, The Christ- Jesus.

 

[ezrider]

No, it's not self-contradictory, but the very word of God. He is the one who said it is an abomination to Him.

Scripture tells us we are to be formed in the image of Christ. Can you please tell me, who did Jesus condemn?

The LAW declares it to be an abomination. One should not make the mistake of declaring what is written in the Law to be God's judgement, else they become a judge of the law rather than a doer of the law!


For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.


If we are to guard against our hearts, it should be to this: That our are hearts not wax cold and become hardened.


Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money,
neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices:
but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins,
thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities.
I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake,
and will not remember thy sins.
Put me in remembrance: let us plead together:
declare thou, that thou mayest be justified

 

[jerry63935]

if a Christian supports LGBT i question their salvation Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed for this.. a nation can not stand supporting this

 

[andy pandy]

Polls also consistently show that people wildly overestimate the prevalence of homosexuality, with 25% being a common estimate. Based on my experience of 72 years of living, I believe the entire LGBTQ movement is largely a fad - just as it was trendy (believe it or not) to be a Jesus freak when I was in college, it's now trendy to claim to be somewhere on the LGBTQ(+++blah-blah-blah) spectrum. That being said, I also believe it's a diabolically inspired fad - just another facet of the End Times descent into depravity our society is experiencing.

I've had a couple of gay friends, with their sexuality simply being irrelevant in the context of our friendship. In my first 65 years of living, however, I never met anyone who was even vaguely transgender or otherwise gender-confused, which makes me highly dubious of the reality of that "phenomenon."

The whole LGBTQ thing would scarcely even be on my radar screen if they weren't aggressively seeking to normalize and require me to celebrate their behavior (and, correspondingly, to shout down my Christian values). It would be just another behavior the Bible condemns that I would leave to God to deal with as he sees fit.

The basic issue is that almost all of these modern "movements" are directly contrary to God's plan for humanity - be it no-fault divorce, the acceptance of cohabitation, the feminist movement or the LGBTQ movement. Add them all up and our society is descending deeper and deeper into depravity, to the edge of a complete moral collapse.

There have been numerous pieces of research done around the world regarding the prevalence of homosexuality and nearly all show a number of 2% of the population. I read a few weeks ago since the legalizing of homosexual marriage in my country only a few have taken the opportunity to get married. The main reason given for not getting married is it is too heterosexual. The reason for the demand for it is to break into the normal marriage sphere to screw it up and give homosexuals legitimacy.

One of the biggest mistakes the church makes is to refer to them as gay. One, they are not gay as copious research shows and the second is that it hides the truth. I have found over the years that if you want to know the truth about anything like this is not difficult. Just take the opposite view to that which is propogated and that is the truth.

I have a littler book thast sets out two years of research of homoseuxals on Fire Island an homosexual mecca. The researcher followed 200 homosexuals for two years. He said right at the beginning that one thing was sure. They definitely were not gay. He said that he had never met such a sad lot of people.

 

[andy pandy]

Polls also consistently show that people wildly overestimate the prevalence of homosexuality, with 25% being a common estimate. Based on my experience of 72 years of living, I believe the entire LGBTQ movement is largely a fad - just as it was trendy (believe it or not) to be a Jesus freak when I was in college, it's now trendy to claim to be somewhere on the LGBTQ(+++blah-blah-blah) spectrum. That being said, I also believe it's a diabolically inspired fad - just another facet of the End Times descent into depravity our society is experiencing.

I've had a couple of gay friends, with their sexuality simply being irrelevant in the context of our friendship. In my first 65 years of living, however, I never met anyone who was even vaguely transgender or otherwise gender-confused, which makes me highly dubious of the reality of that "phenomenon."

The whole LGBTQ thing would scarcely even be on my radar screen if they weren't aggressively seeking to normalize and require me to celebrate their behavior (and, correspondingly, to shout down my Christian values). It would be just another behavior the Bible condemns that I would leave to God to deal with as he sees fit.

The basic issue is that almost all of these modern "movements" are directly contrary to God's plan for humanity - be it no-fault divorce, the acceptance of cohabitation, the feminist movement or the LGBTQ movement. Add them all up and our society is descending deeper and deeper into depravity, to the edge of a complete moral collapse.

There have been numerous pieces of research done around the world regarding the prevalence of homosexuality and nearly all show a number of 2% of the population. I read a few weeks ago since the legalizing of homosexual marriage in my country only a few have taken the opportunity to get married. The main reason given for not getting married is it is too heterosexual. The reason for the demand for it is to break into the normal marriage sphere to screw it up and give homosexuals legitimacy.

One of the biggest mistakes the church makes is to refer to them as gay. One, they are not gay as copious research shows and the second is that it hides the truth. I have found over the years that if you want to know the truth about anything like this is not difficult. Just take the opposite view to that which is propogated and that is the truth.

I have a littler book thast sets out two years of research of homoseuxals on Fire Island a homosexual mecca. The researcher followed 200 homosexuals for two years. He said right at the beginning that one thing was sure. They definitely were not gay. He said that he had never met such a sad lot of people.

 

[electedbyHim]

if a Christian supports LGBT i question their salvation Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed for this.. a nation can not stand supporting this

That is why the wrath of God is on America, according to Romans 1:18-32. The Lord gave them over, starting with sexual sin, then to homosexuality and then a debased mind (transgenders, men thinking they are woman and woman thinking they are men, pure insanity). The government wants to make laws to protect this evil and perverse nation.

Biblical history has shown that when a nation progresses in these sins it will be wiped out. Unless the leadersa nd the people repent of this wickedness.

The Lords word is clear and it will only get worse.

Grace and peace to you.

 

[Consecrated Life]

Homosexuality is nothing new .
It is not cutting edge at all .
Historically speaking How did past societies that accepted homosexuality at a rate 79 % or greater make out?

 

[jaybo]

That is why the wrath of God is on America, according to Romans 1:18-32. The Lord gave them over, starting with sexual sin, then to homosexuality and then a debased mind (transgenders, men thinking they are woman and woman thinking they are men, pure insanity). The government wants to make laws to protect this evil and perverse nation.

Biblical history has shown that when a nation progresses in these sins it will be wiped out. Unless the leadersa nd the people repent of this wickedness.

The Lords word is clear and it will only get worse.

Grace and peace to you.

To my knowledge "America" -- Canada to Chile? -- is not mentioned in scripture.

Try reading the rest of Romans 1. Not only are there many sins listed that you don't mention, but the premise is that the people did not know God, so He punished them for idolatry.

I know it's trendy to hate LGBTQs, however Christians are instructed to love our neighbors as ourselves. Why not follow the Lord instead of hating others?

 

[electedbyHim]

To my knowledge "America" -- Canada to Chile? -- is not mentioned in scripture.

Try reading the rest of Romans 1. Not only are there many sins listed that you don't mention, but the premise is that the people did not know God, so He punished them for idolatry.

I know it's trendy to hate LGBTQs, however Christians are instructed to love our neighbors as ourselves. Why not follow the Lord instead of hating others?

To my knowledge "America" -- Canada to Chile? -- is not mentioned in scripture.

Are you suggesting Gods written word does not apply to America?



I have quoted Romans 1:18-32

To my knowledge "America" -- Canada to Chile? -- is not mentioned in scripture.

Try reading the rest of Romans 1. Not only are there many sins listed that you don't mention, but the premise is that the people did not know God, so He punished them for idolatry.

I know it's trendy to hate LGBTQs, however Christians are instructed to love our neighbors as ourselves. Why not follow the Lord instead of hating others?

To my knowledge "America" -- Canada to Chile? -- is not mentioned in scripture

What does that have to do with anything?

Try reading the rest of Romans 1. Not only are there many sins listed that you don't mention, but the premise is that the people did not know God, so He punished them for idolatry.

The perverseness of their sins led to the rest of the sins in Chapter 1.

Romans 1:28-32 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to an unfit mind, to do those things which are not proper, having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, violent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

unfit (debased). This translates a Greek word that means "not passing the test." It was often used to describe useless, worthless metals, discarded because they contained too much impurity. God has tested man's minds and found them worthless and useless (cf. Jeremiah 6:30).

I know it's trendy to hate LGBTQs, however Christians are instructed to love our neighbors as ourselves. Why not follow the Lord instead of hating others?

Explain how this is hatred. Is preaching that homosexuality is sin and an abomination to the Lord hatred? Is preaching drunkenness, murder, theft, envy and the like are sins hatred?

You do understand that preaching the Lords truth is hatred to the unregenerate.

If you are a Christian, do you support their perverse and heinous lifestyle?

Grace and peace to you

 

[jaybo]

Are you suggesting Gods written word does not apply to America?



I have quoted Romans 1:18-32



What does that have to do with anything?



The perverseness of their sins led to the rest of the sins in Chapter 1.

Romans 1:28-32 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to an unfit mind, to do those things which are not proper, having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, violent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

unfit (debased). This translates a Greek word that means "not passing the test." It was often used to describe useless, worthless metals, discarded because they contained too much impurity. God has tested man's minds and found them worthless and useless (cf. Jeremiah 6:30).



Explain how this is hatred. Is preaching that homosexuality is sin and an abomination to the Lord hatred? Is preaching drunkenness, murder, theft, envy and the like are sins hatred?

You do understand that preaching the Lords truth is hatred to the unregenerate.

If you are a Christian, do you support their perverse and heinous lifestyle?

Grace and peace to you

Here is some of the scripture that you quoted (but apparently disregard): "And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to an unfit mind, to do those things which are not proper, having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, violent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."

Also, Romans 1:21-23 says, "For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God or give him thanks, but they became futile in their thoughts and their senseless hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for an image resembling mortal human beings or birds or four-footed animals[as] or reptiles."

Now, to read Scripture correctly you must accept what it says. The people discussed in Romans 1 knew God, but did not glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. Instead, they became idolaters.

That is what Paul is writing about in Romans!!

I know it's trendy to be hateful of LGBTQs, but that is just what is "in fashion". Why not be as hateful of all the other sins?

BTW, how many LGBTQs do you actually know? I know several lesbians and gay men and they are kind, loving, good people. More so than many "Christians" who, going against Jesus' command, won't love their neighbors.

Finally, John 3:16-17 says: " For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. "God loved the world, not just "straight" people.

Many heterosexual people commit the sins listed in Romans 1:29-31, "They are filled with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, senseless, covenant-breakers, heartless, ruthless." Of course, in your blindness, you overlook these in favor of what's trendy today.

Love your neighbor as yourself!

 

[electedbyHim]

Here is some of the scripture that you quoted (but apparently disregard): "And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to an unfit mind, to do those things which are not proper, having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, violent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."

Also, Romans 1:21-23 says, "For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God or give him thanks, but they became futile in their thoughts and their senseless hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for an image resembling mortal human beings or birds or four-footed animals[as] or reptiles."

Now, to read Scripture correctly you must accept what it says. The people discussed in Romans 1 knew God, but did not glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. Instead, they became idolaters.

That is what Paul is writing about in Romans!!

I know it's trendy to be hateful of LGBTQs, but that is just what is "in fashion". Why not be as hateful of all the other sins?

BTW, how many LGBTQs do you actually know? I know several lesbians and gay men and they are kind, loving, good people. More so than many "Christians" who, going against Jesus' command, won't love their neighbors.

Finally, John 3:16-17 says: " For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. "God loved the world, not just "straight" people.

Many heterosexual people commit the sins listed in Romans 1:29-31, "They are filled with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, senseless, covenant-breakers, heartless, ruthless." Of course, in your blindness, you overlook these in favor of what's trendy today.

Love your neighbor a

Here is some of the scripture that you quoted (but apparently disregard): "And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to an unfit mind, to do those things which are not proper, having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, violent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."

Also, Romans 1:21-23 says, "For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God or give him thanks, but they became futile in their thoughts and their senseless hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for an image resembling mortal human beings or birds or four-footed animals[as] or reptiles."

Now, to read Scripture correctly you must accept what it says. The people discussed in Romans 1 knew God, but did not glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. Instead, they became idolaters.

That is what Paul is writing about in Romans!!

I know it's trendy to be hateful of LGBTQs, but that is just what is "in fashion". Why not be as hateful of all the other sins?

BTW, how many LGBTQs do you actually know? I know several lesbians and gay men and they are kind, loving, good people. More so than many "Christians" who, going against Jesus' command, won't love their neighbors.

Finally, John 3:16-17 says: " For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. "God loved the world, not just "straight" people.

Many heterosexual people commit the sins listed in Romans 1:29-31, "They are filled with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, senseless, covenant-breakers, heartless, ruthless." Of course, in your blindness, you overlook these in favor of what's trendy today.

Love your neighbor as yourself!

You did not answer my questions and according to your reply you really did not read my post.

Now, to read Scripture correctly you must accept what it says. The people discussed in Romans 1 knew God, but did not glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. Instead, they became idolaters.

What do you think that verse is saying?

Again, is pointing out the homosexuals sin hatred?

 

[jaybo]

You did not answer my questions and according to your reply you really did not read my post.


What do you think that verse is saying?

Again, is pointing out the homosexuals sin hatred?

a) That verse in Romans is saying that the people had a knowledge of God but instead of worshiping Him as God they turned to idolatry. Because of their rejection of Him, He let them turn to sinful lifestyles.

b) I did read your post, and I replied as I saw fit. I am under no obligation to reply as you would like me to.

c) Pointing out any sin should have the function of teaching people that there is a better way, but it must be done with love. Judging people because of their sexual behavior accomplishes nothing, it's just criticism. I notice that you don't mention any other sexual sins, such as adultery or rape or pedophilia. Why?

As I said before, it is trendy to be against LGBTQs but there are sexual sins that are far more harmful. Adultery destroys marriages, rape is violent assault, and pedophilia destroys young lives. Are you actually claiming that if two people of the same gender love each other, that is worse than these sins?

Again, it's trendy to go after LGBTQs, so I'm sure your friends think that you're really hip. I don't!

 

[electedbyHim]

a) That verse in Romans is saying that the people had a knowledge of God but instead of worshiping Him as God they turned to idolatry. Because of their rejection of Him, He let them turn to sinful lifestyles.

b) I did read your post, and I replied as I saw fit. I am under no obligation to reply as you would like me to.

c) Pointing out any sin should have the function of teaching people that there is a better way, but it must be done with love. Judging people because of their sexual behavior accomplishes nothing, it's just criticism. I notice that you don't mention any other sexual sins, such as adultery or rape or pedophilia. Why?

As I said before, it is trendy to be against LGBTQs but there are sexual sins that are far more harmful. Adultery destroys marriages, rape is violent assault, and pedophilia destroys young lives. Are you actually claiming that if two people of the same gender love each other, that is worse than these sins?

Again, it's trendy to go after LGBTQs, so I'm sure your friends think that you're really hip. I don't!

So how would you tell the homosexual, pedophile, adulterer, those who have sex with animals, drunkards, thieves etc.

How would you tell them that their sin damns them to hell, in love?

 

[electedbyHim]

As I said before, it is trendy to be against LGBTQs but there are sexual sins that are far more harmful. Adultery destroys marriages, rape is violent assault, and pedophilia destroys young lives. Are you actually claiming that if two people of the same gender love each other, that is worse than these sins?

Homosexuality perverts Gods design of marriage and the traditional family. It is not natural it is an abomination. The brain is debased in thinking it is normal behavior. This is part of Satan's plan to destroy anything good from the Lord.

You seem to want to defend homosexuals.

It will never be 100% accepted, ever.

A true child of God will never tolerate sin, especially in their own life.

Grace and peace to you.

 

[jaybo]

So how would you tell the homosexual, pedophile, adulterer, those who have sex with animals, drunkards, thieves etc.

How would you tell them that their sin damns them to hell, in love?

I would start by making sure that whatever I said it would be said with love. If I was simply criticizing someone to show that I was superior to them, they would appropriately reject what I said.

I try to look at someone's "heart". 1 Samuel 16:7b, "God does not view things the way people do. People look on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

As I said earlier, the LGBTQs that I know personally are kind, loving people. I accept their sin the way I accept sin in everyone. Nobody is perfect. John 3:16 says that God loved the world and sent His son, so that everyone who believes in Him has everlasting life. There was, is, and will be one person who is sinless: Jesus Christ.

Luke 6:37, “Do not judge, and you will not be judged; do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven."

John 7:24, "Do not judge according to external appearance, but judge with proper judgment.”

John 12:47, "If anyone hears my words and does not obey them, I do not judge him. For I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world."

1 Corinthians 5:12a, "For what do I have to do with judging those outside?" READ THAT CAREFULLY!!!

If you think that your self-righteous judgement of LGBTQs is Christian, you are sadly mistaken!

 

[jaybo]

Homosexuality perverts Gods design of marriage and the traditional family. It is not natural it is an abomination. The brain is debased in thinking it is normal behavior. This is part of Satan's plan to destroy anything good from the Lord.

You seem to want to defend homosexuals.

It will never be 100% accepted, ever.

A true child of God will never tolerate sin, especially in their own life.

Grace and peace to you.

You write that true child of God will never tolerate sin, especially in their own life, yet you feast on your own hatred. It makes me sick!!!

I am done discussing this with you.

 

[electedbyHim]

I would start by making sure that whatever I said it would be said with love. If I was simply criticizing someone to show that I was superior to them, they would appropriately reject what I said.

I try to look at someone's "heart". 1 Samuel 16:7b, "God does not view things the way people do. People look on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

As I said earlier, the LGBTQs that I know personally are kind, loving people. I accept their sin the way I accept sin in everyone. Nobody is perfect. John 3:16 says that God loved the world and sent His son, so that everyone who believes in Him has everlasting life. There was, is, and will be one person who is sinless: Jesus Christ.

Luke 6:37, “Do not judge, and you will not be judged; do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven."

John 7:24, "Do not judge according to external appearance, but judge with proper judgment.”

John 12:47, "If anyone hears my words and does not obey them, I do not judge him. For I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world."

1 Corinthians 5:12a, "For what do I have to do with judging those outside?" READ THAT CAREFULLY!!!

If you think that your self-righteous judgement of LGBTQs is Christian, you are sadly mistaken!

Please explain how I am self-righteous.

Do you tell them that their sin of homosexuality will send them to hell? Do you explain repentance or just the love of Christ?

Jesus Christ preached more on hell and damnation then He did love.

I am truly trying to understand your view on this issue.

This is what makes it difficult to have a conversation on a forum. There is no eye contact or body language in the conversation. I compare it to texting, sometimes I do not understand what the person is trying to convey and vice versa.

Grace and peace to you

 

[electedbyHim]

You write that true child of God will never tolerate sin, especially in their own life, yet you feast on your own hatred. It makes me sick!!!

I am done discussing this with you.

Explain how I am hating.

Galatians 4:16 So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth?

 

[electedbyHim]

You write that true child of God will never tolerate sin, especially in their own life, yet you feast on your own hatred. It makes me sick!!!

I am done discussing this with you.

I was careless in my reply I should have written:

A true child of God will hate all sin, especially in their own lives.

My sincerest apologies on that.

 

[Michael The Archangel]

Homosexuality is a non issue. You don't actually care about the problems that humanity faces.