9/11 Inside job or not? Poll.

[Nick]

"NO". Of course. I can't believe this is still being debated.

 

[John]

Paidion, you might want to read this:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... ge=4#steel

Don't bother. Popular mechanics already got the boot.

 

[John]

Either way, this is in the past. Not much we can do about it now. So why don't we stop chewing on yesterday's breakfast and move on, shall we?

Nope. The implications of this event are massive, too massive to just "move on".

 

[John]

Paidion, you might want to read this:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... ge=4#steel

This book ripped the Popular mechanics hogwash to bits.

http://www.911sharethetruth.com/images/ ... r/BK36.jpg

 

[Paidion]

Should have voted "unsure" then

Not at all. All it shows is the way the enemy attacked the towers ----- distracted the people by flying planes through them, and then blowing them up from below.

 

[Lewis]

Should have voted "unsure" then

Not at all. All it shows is the way the enemy attacked the towers ----- distracted the people by flying planes through them, and then blowing them up from below.

Blowing them up from below"""""""" where did you get that from ?

 

[Fembot]

I voted unsure. because I do not believe anything that is placed in front of me unless I know all the details. I'm intelligent enough to admit that I don't know all the details.

 

[destiny]

I question everything concerning the government, but then I also doubt if Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in 1963.

I have learned that you don't discuss these things with everybody. You got to know when to holdem', know when to foldem'... know when to walk away, know when to run....

Run John, run!!!! :D

 

[Fembot]

I question everything concerning the government, but then I also doubt if Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in 1963.

I have learned that you don't discuss these things with everybody. You got to know when to holdem', know when to foldem'... know when to walk away, know when to run....

Run John, run!!!! :D

This is a free country. let people speak their minds, please.

 

[destiny]

 

[Blazin Bones]

John and anyone who call this a conspiracy, let me ask you this? Are you willing to say this to the faces of those who lost loved ones?

Would you care to tell my friend Claire that her father wasn't on a plane that day that flew into a tower, but was rather just taken by the government and killed so a war could be started?

Would you care to tell my friend Adrienne that her father wasn't a hero and that the plane in PA was the governments way of saying enough is enough?

Would you care to tell my friend Steven that his father, a port authority Engineer who got out and went back in even though he knew that the buildings could come down any moment was too stupid to understand the difference between a structural failure and properly plased munitions, and that his stupidity cost his father his life?

Would you care to tell my grandmother who was driving on the beltway and saw with her own eyes a plane hit the pentagon that she just couldn't make out what really hit the building her husband had just retired from a few years eariler?

I could keep going. I know those who are Eye-witnesses to the truth. Do have anyone who WAS THERE telling you that it wasn't a plane?

Oh and Fem, Since when was a website a country?

 

[destiny]

Tim...I wouldn't tell them any of that, they would have to research it because they themselves felt something was off.

Here's something I read on a website that I saved in my drafts but I have no facts as to how true it is...

Government Report Defies Laws of Physics
Architects & Structural Engineers Submit Evidence of Controlled Demolition, Disputing NIST’s Theory of 9/11 Building Collapses

Houston, TX, September 9, 2008  The conclusions from a recent report (8/21/08) submitted by NIST, the National Institute of Standards and Technology regarding World Trade Center-7’s destruction on September 11, 2001 is contrary to all historical, visual, and physical evidence, according to an independent worldwide organization composed of more than 470 engineers and architects. WTC-7 was a 47-story skyscraper located more than a football field away from the North Tower and was not hit by any airplane, yet completely collapsed hours after the Twin Towers fell in a similar manner.

“Our engineers are preparing a technical response to the many problems in NIST’s report,†states architect Richard Gage, AIA, “but one critical element is simple: In the history of steel-framed structures, no high-rise building has ever collapsed from fire before, even when other fires were hotter, more widespread, and lasted far longer…and yet this is the explanation NIST expects us to accept.â€Â

Kamal Obeid, a licensed Structural Engineer, concurs. “Nothing we are being told by NIST justifies how the destruction of WTC-7 and the Twin Towers was so fast, so symmetrical, and produced so much pulverized concrete. Fire in steel-framed high-rises simply cannot cause it to collapse like a house of cards. Let’s remember the Twin Tower fires only encompassed the upper floors, and burned for less than two hours. And yet, what we witnessed were three total collapses at near free-fall speed.â€Â

Adds Structural Engineer Ron Brookman, “Many people say that 9/11 changed everything, but it didn’t change the laws of physics.â€Â

It appears there is one explanation that these structural engineers, architects, and physicists steadfastly agree upon: Explosive Controlled Demolition.

“There is an abundance of evidence which NIST refuses to look at or even account for that clearly points to controlled demolition as the source that destroyed these buildings,†states Dr. Steven Jones, a physicist and retired professor at Brigham Young University who examined the pulverized dust at Ground Zero. “Chemical analysis found traces of thermite, a compound long used to melt steel. It is disturbing that NIST refuses to acknowledge the presence of thermite in the debris or the pools of molten metal that numerous rescue workers found “flowing like lava†in the rubble. The extremely high temperatures (4,000 + degrees Fahrenheit) associated with this molten metal is confirmed by NASA sensors, and could never have been caused by jet fuel fires, which burn at 800-1,200 degrees Fahrenhe it. Steel melts around 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit. Thermite is designed to melt steel, jet fuel cannot.â€Â

More evidence pointing to a Thermite Controlled Demolition: Iron-rich microspheres discovered by the US Geological Survey heavily dispersed throughout the disaster site are only produced by thermite under explosive conditions. More than one hundred rescue workers testified they heard explosions just prior to the collapse of the Twin Towers.

Family members of 9/11 victims asked many of these same questions at NIST’s recent technical briefing. Over 470 architects and engineers are lending their voices and considerable expertise to those 9/11 families and many others now demanding a true independent investigation with subpoena power to find out what really happened on September 11, 2001.

 

[Lee100]

I voted yes, it was. This government is pure evil and does not have our best interest in mind.

 

[destiny]

I voted yes, it was. This government is pure evil and does not have our best interest in mind.

I would be more comfortable with "probably".

 

[Fembot]

John and anyone who call this a conspiracy, let me ask you this? Are you willing to say this to the faces of those who lost loved ones?

Would you care to tell my friend Claire that her father wasn't on a plane that day that flew into a tower, but was rather just taken by the government and killed so a war could be started?

Would you care to tell my friend Adrienne that her father wasn't a hero and that the plane in PA was the governments way of saying enough is enough?

Would you care to tell my friend Steven that his father, a port authority Engineer who got out and went back in even though he knew that the buildings could come down any moment was too stupid to understand the difference between a structural failure and properly plased munitions, and that his stupidity cost his father his life?

Would you care to tell my grandmother who was driving on the beltway and saw with her own eyes a plane hit the pentagon that she just couldn't make out what really hit the building her husband had just retired from a few years eariler?

I could keep going. I know those who are Eye-witnesses to the truth. Do have anyone who WAS THERE telling you that it wasn't a plane?

Oh and Fem, Since when was a website a country?

Blazin. We are allowed to speak our minds. That was my point. Just like you spoke your mind above. Answer to all your questions: Not everything that can be SEEN is the truth. I saw it happen with my own eyes. I lived across the street.

Simmer down now.

 

[Blazin Bones]

Blazin. We are allowed to speak our minds. That was my point. Just like you spoke your mind above. Answer to all your questions: Not everything that can be SEEN is the truth. I saw it happen with my own eyes. I lived across the street.

Simmer down now.

Fem, I'm not going to question whether or not you saw it live, but you could NOT have lived accross the street. Please note the map attached. The red line shows all streets surrounding what was called the World Trade Center. There are No residential buildings directly accross the street as noted by the map. There is the American Stock Exchange, several city municiple buildings, the Financial WTC, and other federal buildings. I do know from my trips to New York that there are residential places not very far from the WTC, but not "accross the street".

 

[Lewis]

I have to say no. Yes our government has done some real, real bad and crazy things in the past, but this ain't one of them. So I say no they did not. But the use of Thermite to melt metal and weaken the structure, was placed there by the Muslims who want to bring this country down.

 

[Pascal's Wager]

John and anyone who call this a conspiracy, let me ask you this?


Are you willing to say this to the faces of those who lost loved ones?

Would you care to tell my friend Claire that her father wasn't on a plane that day that flew into a tower, but was rather just taken by the government and killed so a war could be started?

Nobody who pays for their own dental work is willing to do this, Bones.

You didn't even get into the MILITARY people who get SUPER hot when these kinds of accusations are made (i.e. that 9/11 was an inside job). People who pay for their own health care don't dare say something like this to a Marine's face.

Not ever.

That's one indication that this theory is nonsense: people are willing to posit such terrible, hurtful things on the Internet...but few back it up with saying it aloud in front of the family members of those who were killed.

~Pascal

Edit: Why can't I spell 'posit' right, today? Posit, posit, posit.
Hmmmmmm

 

[Fembot]

Blazin' you're sounding pretty ugh. Not gonna say it. I'm not gonna give you MY OLD ADDRESS. I lived in Battery Park City. If you know New York, you'd understand that IT IS ACROSS THE STREET.

Not gonna put a map up for you, because that's just-ugh...not gonna say it.


I am also not gonna get into it with you over where I lived and the pain I went through.

Sometimes, people "show their face" to prove a point. I've found this especially true with men who are threatened by "something."

The fruit of the spirit is love, joy and peace.
- Galatians 5:22

 

[jasoncran]

John and anyone who call this a conspiracy, let me ask you this? Are you willing to say this to the faces of those who lost loved ones?

Would you care to tell my friend Claire that her father wasn't on a plane that day that flew into a tower, but was rather just taken by the government and killed so a war could be started?

Would you care to tell my friend Adrienne that her father wasn't a hero and that the plane in PA was the governments way of saying enough is enough?

Would you care to tell my friend Steven that his father, a port authority Engineer who got out and went back in even though he knew that the buildings could come down any moment was too stupid to understand the difference between a structural failure and properly plased munitions, and that his stupidity cost his father his life?

Would you care to tell my grandmother who was driving on the beltway and saw with her own eyes a plane hit the pentagon that she just couldn't make out what really hit the building her husband had just retired from a few years eariler?

I could keep going. I know those who are Eye-witnesses to the truth. Do have anyone who WAS THERE telling you that it wasn't a plane?

Oh and Fem, Since when was a website a country?

i was entertaining john to see why, he believes what he said, u have said that which i wanted to