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A Beast in the making?, project Synthia

Now, what was Obama giving this most prestigious award to JC Venter for?

scientist J Craig Venter project Synthia, came across this, intresting, johnny

Well, Venter was the first scientist to successfully map the genetic code of humans..But he wasn't happy with that. He wanted to "create" synthetic life...

What is Venter's motivation?


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The father of genomics and the founder of synthetic biology startup Synthetic Genomics, Craig Venter, is now officially god.
http://earth2tech.com/2010/05/20/cra...limate-change/

The atheists have jumped on board with this, attempting to discredit God. They say, "see, man can create life!". But, Venter still needs a living cell as a host for his synthetic life, or as he has named it, Synthia. Gotta love how the word Sin is in the word, Synthia. The name of the beast will be full of blasphemies...

Venter, is a hardcore atheist...


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Has Venter made us gods?

Does Craig Venter's creation of life in the laboratory finally squeeze God right out of the scientific universe?

Life is basically the result of an information process – a software process" says Venter,
and "Starting with the information in a computer, we put it into a recipient cell, and convert it into a news species".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...enter-life-god

So, May 20th, 2010, exactly one month before the Horizon Disaster, Venter announces he has created synthetic life. He has even formed a company called Synthetic Genomics. Synthetic Genomics is funded by Exxon, and some of the largest investors are,


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A round of financing from Draper Fisher Juvetson, Meteor Group, Biotechonomy LLC and Plenus, S.A. de C.V. In 2007 SGI closed its Series B round of financing with BP plc and ACGT Sdn Bhd.
Invest in Synthetic Genomics

Now what would BP be doing investing in synthetic genomics??
The answer lies in algae.


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Synthetic Genomics was founded back in 2005 to commercialize Venter’s work, and has been focusing on a variety of applications for its genetic technology, including creating algae-based biofuel. Synthetic Genomics has raised money from investors including venture capital firm Draper Fisher Jurvetson and oil giants BP and Exxon Mobil.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127010591

Furthermore, Venter want to put his Synthia in vaccines.


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"We decided that [by] writing new biological software and creating new species, we could create new species to do what we want them to do, not what they evolved to do," says Venter.

Venter has founded a company called Synthetic Genomics, where he intends to use these new species to do things like make new fuels and new vaccines.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127010591

Now, here's where it gets really creepy. Venter has put a watermark into the genetic code of Synthia..and before I post what he put into the code, I would like to remind readers of Revelations...

Revelation 13
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

OK, so you can't buy or sell without the mark, or the name, or the number....

What is in the (water)mark of Synthia?

Many things like...


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Craig Ventner's research team used a simple natural bacterium that infects goats. It is called Mycoplasma mycoides.
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The researchers call the four sets “watermark†sequences. Each watermark has more than one thousand letters.
The coded letters contain people’s names, famous sayings and a website to help identify the cell.
http://www1.voanews.com/learningengl...-98788929.html

Within the genetic watermark of Synthia, is the name of the beast, Synthia.

Now, why watermark the genome? For one, so he can patent it and make money off of it. But more scary is, because if someone is "infected" with these synthetic cells, the can tell if you have the (water)mark or not. And if you haven't taken the Synthia based vaccine, according to the new health care bill, your DNA will not show the watermark, and you won't be able to buy, or sell...

Now, as Venter has said, this is completely controlled through computer software. Once a person is infected by this synthetic life, it self replicates, until the entire person it has infected is actually a
synthetic person, effectively creating a planet of zombies that can be controlled through a software program beamed world wide through Satellite and HAARP technology..


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The watermarks are distinct genetic codes that include quotes: “To live, to err, to fall, to triumph, and to re*create life out of life,†from James Joyce; “see things not as they are but as they might be,†from J. Robert Oppenheimer; and “what I cannot build, I cannot understand,†from Richard Feynmann.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...tools-for-life

Now this has not been without controversy. Even in the scientific world, scientists are sounding the alarm, even going as far as saying this could be the end of the world as we know it...


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Venter Unloads on NIH Director, Human Genome Project

SPIEGEL: Many fear what might happen if humans craft new life forms. They repeatedly say that you are playing God …

Venter: Yes, and I find them frightening. I can read your genome, you know? Nobody's been able to do that in history before. But that is not about God-like powers, it's about scientific power. The real problem is that the understanding of science in our society is so shallow. In the future, if we want to have enough water, enough food and enough energy without totally destroying our planet, then we will have to be dependent on good science.

SPIEGEL: Some scientists don't rule out a belief in God. [NIH Director] Francis Collins, for example …

Venter: … That's his issue to reconcile, not mine. For me, it's either faith or science - you can't have both.

SPIEGEL: So you don't consider Collins to be a true scientist?

Venter: Let's just say he's a government administrator.
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencein...tor.html?rss=1

Now, I posted where JC Venter needs a massive amount of algae to produce his goal...Hmm, where can we find a massive amount of algae...Let's take a look at the latest satellite image of the Gulf of Mexico...
 
This is pretty scary. Id be worried about what people could create with this.

Um now that ive read the whole post(:D), yeah, this is really scary... But revalation said that the beast was a man. Of course, it could be Venter himself. However, where does 666 come in???
 
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i have followed that for a while they cant create new life just make a hybrid.

we do that with foods, and have for centuries.

ecoli is often used for this stuff and we also do with other things

what do you think is cleaning your waste when you use the commode?

bacteria that is man made so to speak

you can buy that bacteria at home depot.

i have a septic tank and need to replenish that and also what is being used to replenish the ocean?

bacteria

yes we need to monitor as some men do want to use eugenics.

but i do this only in the science forum.

i will post what i know in there and allow debate.
 
Within the genetic watermark of Synthia, is the name of the beast, Synthia.

Now, why watermark the genome? For one, so he can patent it and make money off of it. But more scary is, because if someone is "infected" with these synthetic cells, the can tell if you have the (water)mark or not. And if you haven't taken the Synthia based vaccine, according to the new health care bill, your DNA will not show the watermark, and you won't be able to buy, or sell...

Now, as Venter has said, this is completely controlled through computer software. Once a person is infected by this synthetic life, it self replicates, until the entire person it has infected is actually a
synthetic person, effectively creating a planet of zombies that can be controlled through a software program beamed world wide through Satellite and HAARP technology..
Oh my goodness what are you on? I just can't tell where do you get this!

Right okay Genetic watermarks are non-coding regions of DNA intentionally they serve two functions 1: Satisfying those dudes fat and overfed Egos, Alot of them have massive ego's Hence why I had to endure a painful 4 hour lecture on "Properly citing others work" blah blah *Plagiarism* blah blah ¬.¬ Me and Yvette had an art session instead. it's good cuz I'm left handed like most transsexuals ^.^ so we can draw on the same sheet. anywho.
2: These regions serve no purpose in the organisms working and mutate alot if a sample of this organism escapes you can work out from which batch the contaminant came from and how long its been since it escaped (As they mutate slowly over generations anyway)
It's not infectious to anybody humans or goats and probably would die in the wild but it's still important to keep your genetically modified lab specimens inside the lab for obvious reasons better not to chance it.
The sections of your post I've quoted... No... Just no... no infection dose that or could ever do that.

It's recently been ruled that gene patents are invalid and rightfully so in my opinion biotech companies were really screwing up developing nations with them engaging in a kind of bio-terrorism. so he can't get a patent on his new organism his organism is effectively public domain and anyone can use it if they buy it and grow it out. I don't really see the point in this species anyway I mean we genetically modify E.Coli and other species all the time massively altering them from there purpose making better cheaper lab species anyway. Literally anybody can do it, it costs like £40 and if I could do it as a 15 year old anyone could.

And FYI johnny none of your links work.
"Venter: The real problem is that the understanding of science in our society is so shallow. In the future, if we want to have enough water, enough food and enough energy without totally destroying our planet, then we will have to be dependent on good science."

Venter has a good point and your community and your influence is a massive part of that problem. Johnny is prime example of this chronic lack of critical thought that is openly endorsed by certain ways of reading your holy books it is worrying, and simply harking bible verses of doom and gloom providing no solutions while innocents starve and go without water decrying any options that may offer solutions one day to these problems as satanic is a sad waste at best, and inexcusable crime against your god given intellect and love for others at worst.
 
The main thread and links can be read at the religion forum, http://www.davidicke.com/forum/

this has probaly gone ahead in secret labs, the military ect, i know the alarm bells were ringing over BP,
the bacteria they used to eat the oil, then becoming a flesh eating bacteria, if entered through a cut, contaminated fish, ect, would attack your organs, liver ect,

the man in charge, died recently in a light plane crash, dead men dont talk,

from a military point of view, if you used a bacteria as decribed in this thread, as a weapon, that enters the human body, and starts to grow, sprayed over a population, by plane ect, or put in their water supply,

or placed by goverments in vaccines endless opportunitys it could be said, for all the wrong reasons, if some one was so inclined.

let loose into the sea, food chain ect johnny
 
The main thread and links can be read at the religion forum, David Icke's Official Forums

this has probaly gone ahead in secret labs, the military ect, i know the alarm bells were ringing over BP,
the bacteria they used to eat the oil, then becoming a flesh eating bacteria, if entered through a cut, contaminated fish, ect, would attack your organs, liver ect,

the man in charge, died recently in a light plane crash, dead men dont talk,

from a military point of view, if you used a bacteria as decribed in this thread, as a weapon, that enters the human body, and starts to grow, sprayed over a population, by plane ect, or put in their water supply,

or placed by goverments in vaccines endless opportunitys it could be said, for all the wrong reasons, if some one was so inclined.

let loose into the sea, food chain ect johnny

mrsa is a flesh eating bacteria and so is staph, those arent even modified bacteria.

uh septic tanks use modified bacteria that is easily killed by the bleach, draino.
 
Hybrid creatures are a lot different than new creatures, just saying. If you own a dog, cat, or parakeet you own a hybrid creature. Of course now they can do more "out there" hybrids, but really this only works with plants.

No one has ever created life, aside from God, and I highly doubt if anyone ever will. It is not that easy, they have been trying for decades and they are no further along than they were in the 1950s. Some things simply cannot be done.

If you want to worry about made life, then go look into robotics. That is where "made" life will come from, although it will be artificial and completely "dead".

Final remark, as a Christian I have no worries in the world that some crazy atheist will ever succeed at making life... Who can breathe life into something besides God?
 
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