A taste of heaven right from earth

[Classik]

A taste of heaven right from earth

Would Jesus do these:

Would Jesus own manshions, private jets, etc?

Two people were having a conversation over luxury. The other said: why all these jewellery on you? It's a waste and a sin. The other answered, heaven is made of gold and such etc.

This bring me back to my intent: is luxury and wealth really that bad or bad?

What is heaven like? A place of poverty? NO! It is a place of joy. Everything is perfect and complete. So why cant we have a feel or taste of heaven (no matter how incomparable eartly wealth is...) right from earth.

 

[follower]

because you can't serve two masters.

God said it very plainly - you can't serve God and mammon. it's one or the other. God's Decree (not man's idea)

there's enough Scripture available to everyone to know this perfectly, but unless God grants it from heaven, they won't see it. and just like it is written, even some gentiles without the benefit of having Scripture do what is right, because their heart is right (even without knowledge of Scripture), Yhwh willing .

 

[Gary]

For what it's worth.

Matthew 6
19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal;
20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal.
21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

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[rthom7]

The Greek word Mammon, I think is the Hebrew word "Betsa"

Mal 3:14 Ye have said , It is vain to serve God : and what profit"betsa`"is it that we have kept his ordinance , and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts ?

Here is the parallel verse quoted that links the verse in Matthew... http://spiritualsprings.org/ss-505.htm My link of the study

When we study our Bible it is important to ask how would a Hebrew think about this?
The second question is how would Jesus think about it?

Jesus wasn't condemning money per se, he was condemning the profit laundering of businesses seeking greed or gain at the expense of others. The parable of the talents (also money) tells us we are not all the same with money...those who are rich because they are better entrepreneurs than poor are. So if your rich can help others more than one who is poor. I see nothing wrong with one having riches, as long as it does not corrupt him or her. The problem is money does tend to corrupt.

Hope this helps
Shalom

 

[Danus]

"The greatest sin of the west is the sin of affluence and personal peace." - Francis A. Schaeffer

We need to always keep in mind that this faith is not about us. We are not here to live for ourselves, or to seek a self gratifying existence. It's about Christ. It's about salvation from the judgment and wrath of God. God's love and mercy is found in His salvation provided for those who will be saved. It's not found in having what we want, but it is manifested in wanting what we have, and being thankful for those blessings.

 

[follower]

.....
When we study our Bible it is important to ask how would a Hebrew think about this?
The second question is how would Jesus think about it?

or, ask Yhwh what He thinks about it, and what He wants said and done...... (all things, not just this)

if He doesn't answer, wait on Him, and/or find out why.

 

[Kathi]

Right now Jesus is rich as is his Father God in heaven.When Jesus was on earth he gave up everything willingly.He took on the nature of a humble lowly servant 2 Corinthians 8:9.Look at Gary's post #3.That is what we must do.

 

[reba]

Classik , Classik, Classik Jesus has no need of a jet .. He transports

 

[Kathi]

We will also have no need for a jet when we get to heaven.We will be able to get anywhere in lightning speed with our resurrected bodies.

 

[Kathi]

Classik I see you have your pic as your Soccer friend again.

 

[Eugene]

Maybe there were no jets, Chrysler Crossfires, and mansions.
Psa 50:10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.
I see that Jesus entered Jerusalem riding as ass probably with less than one horse power, He wore sandals instead of sneakers, and had nowhere to lay His head. All things were made by Him, through Him, and for Him. Rich? Eternity will reveal the things that words fail to describe.

Queen Sheba said the half was not told her as to Solomon's kingdom; his downfall wasn't riches but women.

 

[Classik]

We will also have no need for a jet when we get to heaven.We will be able to get anywhere in lightning speed with our resurrected bodies.

The earthly jets would be modified in heaven

 

[Classik]

Classik I see you have your pic as your Soccer friend again.

Yea. Our Alexis who's gone to be with the Gunners

Reminds me of decent football on heaven - a perfect tikitaka

 

[Kathi]

The earthly jets would be modified in heaven

I do not know if there will be jets in the millennial Kingdom.There will be humans coming over from the tribulation and I do not know what the New Earth will be like or how people will function.

 

[Classik]

I do not know if there will be jets in the millennial Kingdom.There will be humans coming over from the tribulation and I do not know what the New Earth will be like or how people will function.

I'm not comfortable with the New Earth thing. I believe in a Heaven where we'd live with the Lord.

 

[follower]

I'm not comfortable with the New Earth thing. I believe in a Heaven where we'd live with the Lord.

I tried searching for the 'good' biblical descriptions and found the internet flooded with all kinds of distractions..... perhaps like decades ago up to today a lot of uncertain unbiblical descriptions abound (as in Yeshua's time on earth? - most of our history ? ) .. .. ...
so diligently test everything and seek Yhwh for the truth.

What does Scripture say (in short) about the new heavens and the new earth ?
from biblegateway search of "new heavens" KJV
"Isaiah 65:17
For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Isaiah 66:22
For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

2 Peter 3:13
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
"

 

[th1b.taylor]

I'm not comfortable with the New Earth thing. I believe in a Heaven where we'd live with the Lord.

You should take a great deal of comfort with the New Earth because that is where Heaven will be seated for Eternity. And the New Earth will have no dividing oceans and seas, a man can walk, if he would choose such a method of travel, from one side of the New Earth to the other side.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth are passed away; and the sea is no more.
Rev 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
(ASV)

 

[Kathi]

I'm not comfortable with the New Earth thing. I believe in a Heaven where we'd live with the Lord.

Ok....but that is the Millennial Kingdom.Call it what you want.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Ok....but that is the Millennial Kingdom.Call it what you want.

Well, a lot of folks believe that but if one studies the matter closely it becomes clear that the earth is destroyed with fire and then the New Earth is created and Heaven descends.

 

[Kathi]

Well, a lot of folks believe that but if one studies the matter closely it becomes clear that the earth is destroyed with fire and then the New Earth is created and Heaven descends.

Right.But our earth will not be destroyed.It will be cleansed and it will become the New Earth Millennial Kingdom.But I also read that there will be a new "heavens" which I am thinking a new universe with a new heaven.I don't know what that will be or who will inhabit this place.