Bible Study A Vessel of Honor

[for_his_glory]

It is hard to address your stuff on here,
No you do not give up you Identity by coming to Jesus.,

I am tired you are bordering on the Occult Want to be your master, stuff.

It is not Christ or Christianity.

Wow, slow your roll here. I'm not talking about anything even to be considered bordering the occult.

Our identity only changes when we receive Jesus as Lord and Savior as we die to self, meaning our will, and are Spiritually renewed through through the Holy Spirit, John 3:5-7, as we surrender our will to that of God's will for our life as we become faithful servants of God. Through the Spiritual rebirth we become a new creation in Christ within our inner man as our Spirit connects with God's Spirit that now dwells in us.

Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. (Please read all of Colossians chapter 3).

 

[for_his_glory]

I surrendered in stages as I mention elsewhere. In 1982 to God, through the Holy Spirit. In 2005 to Christ.

I am not the same person. My individual identity was transformed but God kept the basic raw material because he had use for it. The rest is gone. I am a writer but before Christ my writing was mediocre. I have an ego and God uses it to hold on to my self-esteem when rejected.

Before I felt useless. I am not the person I was. I am not the person I will become. Surrendering and transformation, for me,, is a process. It has taken all of my 71 years and I am not done yet.

For His Glory: You are a healer. Not all people are healers therefore they do not have to surrender everything. They just live their life loving the Lord without being called to serve him as a transformed person. No offense but this is how I explain it to myself when I meet someone who says they have surrendered but want to hold on to their identify.

There is a place for all of us in the kingdom. As Christ said, there are many mansions.

Yes, it is no longer I that live, but Christ who lives in me being the Potter and I the clay as He molds me and makes me who He wants and needs me to be. It was only when I finally surrendered all of myself to Him back in 1997 when I was 43 is when I no longer wanted to commit suicide and got all of my self esteem back as I never knew such great love like how God loves us and wants to give us His best for our life here on earth and eternal life with Him. It's taken me 65 years to get where I am at with the Lord and am always learning as His Holy Spirit teaches me all truths.

 

[Taranis]

I do not follow or like Paul.

I am into God and Jesus.

 

[for_his_glory]

I do not Follow Paul.
I follow Jesus and God and the Prophets.

I do not like Paul.

If you say I am going to Hell because I do not follow Paul, You would be Wrong.

I do not like Paul, I do not Follow Him.

I follow Jesus, and God.

So basically you are saying you do not believe what is written in the NT by the Apostles that also include the Apostle Paul who wrote about 3/4 of the NT by that of what he learned by the revelation of Christ. Galatians 1:10-24

 

[Taranis]

So basically you are saying you do not believe what is written in the NT by the Apostles that also include the Apostle Paul who wrote about 3/4 of the NT by that of what he learned by the revelation of Christ. Galatians 1:10-24

No I totally follow the Apostles.
I do not follow Paul.

 

[for_his_glory]

You want to talk about Jesus come to a Cristian Website.

You want to talk about Paul, Make your own Website about Paul.

When we talk about what Paul wrote we are not placing him above God or Jesus, but talking about what God and Jesus gave Him to write and teach others, just like all the Prophets and Disciples of God and His Son Christ Jesus who were called of God.

 

[for_his_glory]

No I totally follow the Apostles.
I do not follow Paul.

May I ask why?

 

[Taranis]

Here is an example
The Apostles and Holy Spirit told Paul Tell them not to eat foods sacrificed to idols.

Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.


Paul said

Gal 2:10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.


Someone is not telling the truth.

 

[Taranis]

May I ask why?

You may, above is one example, there are many more.
Paul does not teach the same things that the Apostles, God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit teach.

 

[Taranis]

When we talk about what Paul wrote we are not placing him above God or Jesus, but talking about what God and Jesus gave Him to write and teach others, just like all the Prophets and Disciples of God and His Son Christ Jesus who were called of God.

No you do not treat Paul like you treat other Prophets.

With another prophet you would say Such and such says, with Paul you say GOD SAID.

It is noticeable. Very Noticeable.

 

[for_his_glory]

There will be no more talk about Paul the called Apostle of God. What he taught is the same as all the prophets and Disciples as in what God gave each one to write to whom these letters were addressed to.

If you have a problem with any of the prophets or the Apostles then please start a new thread on that as this is not what this thread is about, but you had better have proof of what you are talking about or it will be deleted.

Need not reply to this, thank you

 

[for_his_glory]

No you do not treat Paul like you treat other Prophets.

With another prophet you would say Such and such says, with Paul you say GOD SAID.

It is noticeable. Very Noticeable.

Yes we do as we always say, Peter said this, John said this, Paul said this etc. etc. because they are our our inspired teachers in whom the Holy Spirit works through. We speak of Paul more because his letters make up a big part of the NT. They, like the Prophets before them, all spoke that of what God and His Son Christ Jesus gave them to speak and inspired them to write.

This is the end of this nonsense about Paul as anything else will be deleted and a possible temporary ban from this thread.

 

[Taranis]

There will be no more talk about Paul the called Apostle of God. What he taught is the same as all the prophets and Disciples as in what God gave each one to write to whom these letters were addressed to.

If you have a problem with any of the prophets or the Apostles then please start a new thread on that as this is not what this thread is about, but you had better have proof of what you are talking about or it will be deleted.

Need not reply to this, thank you

I have proof if you would so kind to start a thread.
My point was I do not accept Paul as proof of Scripture.

I do not follow Paul, I follow Christ.

Requiring Me to accept as Proof things of Paul to Prove Christ. is akin to saying I must accept things from a Cult as proof of Christ.

I do not follow Paul, I am Christian. I follow Christ.

So am I allowed to tell them anytime they post Paul as Proof of Christ that the Moderators have decided, Paul is in dispute?

 

[JohnDB]

I have proof if you would so kind to start a thread.
My point was I do not accept Paul as proof of Scripture.

I do not follow Paul, I follow Christ.

Requiring Me to accept as Proof things of Paul to Prove Christ. is akin to saying I must accept things from a Cult as proof of Christ.

I do not follow Paul, I am Christian. I follow Christ.

So am I allowed to tell them anytime they post Paul as Proof of Christ that the Moderators have decided, Paul is in dispute?

No.
The TOS doesn't allow for discrediting the Bible which has been established for 2000 years now. You don't get to pick and choose what parts you dont believe on this site.

 

[Susannah]

When you start a new thread about Paul, I would like to hear how you got to this place regarding your feelings. To me Paul represents God opening up the Truth to the gentiles which was amazing at the time. You weren't born disliking Paul. What happened? Let me know when you start the new thread. I will join you. I have some issues with Paul but mostly I treasure his words and his journey. I had my own journey to Damascus and was blind. Now I see.

 

[for_his_glory]

I have proof if you would so kind to start a thread.
My point was I do not accept Paul as proof of Scripture.

I do not follow Paul, I follow Christ.

Requiring Me to accept as Proof things of Paul to Prove Christ. is akin to saying I must accept things from a Cult as proof of Christ.

I do not follow Paul, I am Christian. I follow Christ.

So am I allowed to tell them anytime they post Paul as Proof of Christ that the Moderators have decided, Paul is in dispute?

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

There will be no new thread about derogatory remarks about Paul or any of the Prophets or Apostles of God and His Son Christ Jesus who called them as servants unto them. This will be monitored and if found will be closed down by the discretion of the Administrators of this site.

We do not worship the Prophets or the Apostles, but God and His Son Christ Jesus exclusively. We believe the Bible to be the word of God penned by those who God has inspired to write that of what God has already taught and given to His Son Christ Jesus to teach during His ministry here on earth.

With this said let's get back to that of what the topic is about, being a vessel of honor.

 

[for_his_glory]

When you start a new thread about Paul, I would like to hear how you got to this place regarding your feelings. To me Paul represents God opening up the Truth to the gentiles which was amazing at the time. You weren't born disliking Paul. What happened? Let me know when you start the new thread. I will join you. I have some issues with Paul but mostly I treasure his words and his journey. I had my own journey to Damascus and was blind. Now I see.

You and Taranis can take this to private PM if you want, but will no longer be discussed in the forums.

Thank you.

 

[Prycejosh1987]

We are a vessel and not only just a vessel, we need to be a vessel of honor that brings glory and honor to the Lord in all we do and in all things we speak to others as we need to lift up and edify each other in the love of the Lord, not tear down and discriminate against each other. The Lord will allow the wheat and tares grow together, but only God will separate and keep what is his.

This is true, the wheat and tares can be considered sceptical believers too and not just unbelievers.