About Healing

[awaken]

It is unScriptural to say that God is the one hindering the majority of our healings today, because we don't see Him hindering the majority of healings in Scripture. Virtually everyone who wanted healing received it throughout the New Testament, and God never said that healing will "die out" or that He will deny our healing for any reason. This means that whatever is blocking our healing, it's on our side

Jesus had a ministry of evangelism, healing, and casting out demons before He went to the cross, and He turned this ministry over to the Church in what we call "the Great Commission." Therefore, none of these things ever "died out"

Jesus never commissioned anyone to "pray" for the sick (e.g. "Father, please heal that person in Jesus' Name"), but instead He commissioned us to heal the sick. There's a big difference! We're not praying for healing the way they did in the New Testament, and that's a big reason why we're not seeing the results that they saw

God is not going to do something to heal us, because He has already done what needs to be done. Jesus paid for our healing in the Atonement.


This physical reality is temporary, and the spiritual reality is eternal. The spiritual reality is the true reality.


Our born-again spirit is a citizen of heaven, and in the spiritual reality we have already been raised up with Christ and seated with Him in the heavenly realms.


Our spirit is in Christ and with Christ at all times, as part of His body.


Most Christians are mentally and emotionally tuned into this physical world and never tune into the spiritual reality, so they never experience much of the supernatural here on earth.


If we can allow the spiritual reality to flow through our spirit into the physical world like streams of living water, then we are more likely to see miracles and healings and so on.

 

[faithtransforms]

We need to once again un-muddy the waters here between the gift of healing (healing through human agency), and God answering faithful prayer directly. There are other distinctions which I will also get into. If we throw all of these under one umbrella it will only serve to confuse, and that's not the goal of anyone here, right? I have never seen a false doctrine make twice dead men like this one does. Many who teach this, in their 'plowing forward to do great things for God', never take the time to look back at the wake of destruction they leave behind themselves. And they DO leave a huge wake of destruction. Guess where the widows go when their husband didn't get healed from cancer "because he didn't have enough faith" (one example of many)? And that's just the ones who didn't walk away from the faith all together. These believers below didn't need a sign BECAUSE they had faith. I'm sure they prayed for healing too, there's nothing wrong with that. But stop and think about why Paul didn't just heal them with a touch. Was this just an all around lack of faith?"Erastus stayed in Corinth, but Trophimus I have left in Miletus sick." (to Timothy who was sick)"No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake and your frequent infirmities"(1Timothy 5:23)"but you know that it was because of a bodily illness that I (Paul) preached the gospel to you Galatians)the first time; and that which was a trial to you in my bodily condition you did not despise or loathe, but you received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus Himself. Galatians 4:13-14  Macarthur summed it up best for us concerning the gift of healing claims of today...----------------------------------2. THE HYPOCRISY OF MODERN HEALERSThe question I hear all the time is: "Well, how do you explain what goes on?" All right, let me ask you a question. Since none of the healers can heal with a word or a touch, instantaneously, totally, everybody, organic diseases, and raise the dead; since none of them have received the gift of healing from Jesus or the Apostles; since the Bible is complete, the revelation has ceased, and more signs are no longer necessary; since the Word needs no confirmation -- it is sufficient that the man of God might be perfect; since their healings are based on faulty theology of the atonement and salvation; since they disallow God His own purposes in having some people remain sick; since their personal lives are not known to manifest the fruit of the Spirit; since so many tricks, gimmicks, and special effects are often used; since the evidence is weak, unsupported, and so-called testimonies exaggerated; since they do not go to where the sick are, as Jesus did; since they cannot heal all who come to them; and since their healings can have other possible explanations rather than that God has acted supernaturally; let me ask you this question: "How do you explain it?" You can't explain it biblically -- it is fraud, they are deceived. Maybe they don't know they are deceived; maybe they are honestly deceived, but they are deceived.3. THE HEALING OF GODYou say, "Are you saying God doesn't heal?" No. God answers prayer. Second, God heals in answer to prayer. God heals miraculously in answer to prayer. God heals miraculously in answer to prayer where there is faith. God heals miraculously in answer to prayer where there is faith to manifest His own glory. Don't say I don't believe God heals. I've seen Him heal. I've seen Him heal miraculously. I've seen Him heal miraculously to manifest His glory. I've seen Him heal miraculously to manifest His glory in response to faithful prayer. God heals. But, God does not heal everybody and God no longer heals through the apostolic gift of healing. That gift has ceased." http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/sg1857 ... 858.htmBTW, where do these modern day healers go when they are sick? Read for yourselves.http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/hea ... ----Here's the standard for the gift of healing...Luke 4:40 When the sun was setting, all those who had any that were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and He laid His hands on every one of them and healed them. Jesus healed them all.Acts 5:12 And through the hands of the apostles many signs and wonders were done among the people. And they were all with one accord in Solomon's Porch. 15 so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. 16 Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed. Peter healed them all.Acts 28:9 So when this was done, the rest of those on the island who had diseases also came and were healed.Paul healed them all.The gift of healing was limited to Jesus, the Apostles, the seventy, and a few close associates like Phillip. It was meant to confirm the message and the messenger. And remember, the apostles are among those listed as the gifted --  they were part of God's plan at that time and therefore also part of His Church. "Why did Jesus heal with a word or a touch, instantaneously, totally, everybody, those with organic diseases, and raise the dead? Did He do it to infatuate or play games with the people? John 20:30-31 gives the reason: "And many other signs truly did Jesus...but these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through His name." This gift was an authenticating gift to confirm the statement of Jesus that He is God. You say, "But what about when the Apostles healed?" It was to confirm their proclamation."Macarthur.Dave

I know all this Dave.  But I have personally laid my hands on someone and had them healed instantly. Guess I'm a daughter of satan, huh?  Just like Jesus said, it is the Father in Me that doeth the works.  No man heals, God heals and yes, he still uses man to do it. That argument that the bible is complete so there is no more need for sign gifts is just plain bunk.  When "that which is perfect is come" is NOT speaking of the completed scriptures.  It is speaking of when we meet Jesus face to face, where we will finally "know as we are known."

So I guess Psalm 91 is an allegory? Yes, I know, there is a messianic reference in it, but it is clearly written to the everyday man as well.  Do and believe what you wish, but as for me, I will abide under the shadow of the Almighty.  He will cover me with His feathers, and under His wings I will trust.  A thousand shall fall at my side, and ten thousand at my right hand, but it shall not come near me.  There shall no evil befall me, neither shall any plague come nigh my dwelling. 

Either the whole bible is true or none of it is true.  So which is it?  The sign gifts did pass away for a time, but the Asuza Street revival was the latter rain spoken of in Joel 2, with Pentecost being the former rain.  If you would read up on that revival, you would see that it came from the outcry of sincere, pious, believers who were crying out for more of God in their lives. The fire started in Wales and made it's way to CA. Were you to actually check into this, you may see that God has poured out the latter rain in the end times for the harvest that is to come. Jesus said if you don't believe me, believe for the sake of the very works themselves. We need sign gifts now more than ever.

And btw, what about Mark 16?  What say you on this?