Shilohsfoal
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Who is like the beast?Who can make war with him?
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Who is like the beast?Who can make war with him?
Israel is not the beast. You're delusional.
Shilohsfoal
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Yes it is.And the false prophet supports the beast.
I am confused. How can the beast be both a "him" and the nation of Israel?
Shilohsfoal
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The beast is the Israeli government..It is what Israel chose in place of Christ after rejecting Christ as king of Israel.Its what scripture says Israel worships at the time of the end when they will be punished on the day of the Lord.
You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
the pedestal of your idols,
the star of your god[b]—
which you made for yourselves.
27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.
The star in verse 26 represents the king they have chosen.The same star you see on the Israeli governments flag.
The few Israelis who do not worship that government,it's image or recieve it's mark and are killed for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God will be resurected and will reign with Christ in the Lord's land.
They follow the Lamb.
They are sent to preach to the lost sheep of the house of Israel as Jesus was. They are rejected and persecuted as Jesus was and many of them are killed as Jesus was.
The Israelis who deny Christ and worship the beast are killed or go into exile on the day of the Lord.They are expelled from the kingdom of heaven.
Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
You didn't answer.
How can the Israeli government be a "him". The pronoun "him" must refer to a male person. A pronoun referring to a government would be "it" or "its"
"The government announced its new policy today."
The pronoun "him" must refer to a man, not a government:
20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the rest were killed with the sword which (Rev. 19:20-21 NKJ)
Both the Beast and False Prophet are people, "these two" cannot refer to a government AND a person, they must both be the same thing.
Shilohsfoal
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If you want to believe there is a man with seven heads and ten horns,you can.
Take a picture of that man with seven heads and ten horns and put it on YouTube for all to see.
The beast will make war with Israel and break a peace treaty. Israel can't be the beast. The beast is a man who epitomizes the characteristics of antichrists.
You are twisting scripture because you hate God's chosen people.
Israel can't be the beast (which, I agree, is a person). Much of the world will turn on Israel under the leadership of the beast. Shiloh ignores the clear teaching of scripture because he hates Israel.
Shilohsfoal
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The beast from the abyss will conquer the Israeli government.
But the beast from the sea is the Israeli government
You believe that people such as high priest Caiaphas and his followers are God's chosen people proves you do not comprehend the difference between the sons of God and the sons of Satan.
You believe them which are the sons of Satan to be God's chosen people.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Why do you believe the children of Satan are God's chosen people ?
Shilohsfoal
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It's true,I don't care for the antichrist goverment of Israel.
The government chosen by many Jews to replace Christ ,king of Israel.
Grammatically impossible "him" or "his" refers to a government.
Also logically impossible is your statement:
The beast from the abyss will conquer the Israeli government.
But the beast from the sea is the Israeli government
When we interpret "Israeli government" as the "beast", your statement becomes babble:
The beast from the abyss will conquer the [beast].
But the beast from the sea is the [beast]
Shilohsfoal
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So when you find a man with seven heads and ten horns on his seven heads,you take a picture of him and post it so we can all see .
Untill you find a man with seven heads,your argument is futile.
Its irrational a Christian hate Israel because we are Israel in God's eyes, grafted into the plant bearing the Jews: the "Israel of God"
17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree,
18 do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you. (Rom. 11:17-18 NKJ)
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God. (Gal. 6:16 NKJ)
I think it highly ironic Muslim terrorists upon death stand before the God of Israel for judgment, rather than meet 70 virgins.
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If your statements are grammatically impossible, and the logic irrational, it indicates the cheese has slid off the cracker.
Bibi isn't the sole government nor has any pm of isreal been. They have a knesset who set policies and a pm who they let be their spoke persons and make decisions on certain policies
Similar to the British limited monarchy that had a king and the pm and the pm took over it all and the crown is a figure head.
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One was assininated years ago. Another took his place .
en.wikipedia.org
It's been oh twenty years since . Ah no .no false prophet etc .
Similar to the British limited monarchy that had a king and the pm and the pm took over it all and the crown is a figure head.
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One was assininated years ago. Another took his place .
Yitzhak Rabin - Wikipedia
It's been oh twenty years since . Ah no .no false prophet etc .
Shilohsfoal
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Then we agree the beast with seven heads is not just one man.
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Christ will save Israel when the nations of the world come against it. God has not finished with the Jewish people, and He has not reneged on his promise to give the land to the descendants of Abraham.
Shilohsfoal
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No one said God would not keep his promise to give the promised land to Abraham and his seed.
You claim the children of Satan are the seed of Abraham because they call themselves Israel..Those are not the seed of abraham. The seed of Abraham is Christ.
Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.
Israel is a name given to them who overcome.