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An Exegesis of Hebrews 10:26-31 Loss of Salvation?

Excellant post, but yet many will write it off not seeing it's truth and how sad this is when one refuses Spiritual knowledge. Might I also add these verses in Matthew that shows one can lose their salvation, which also confirms that of what is written in Hebrews. Those with weak faith are bound to lose all faith if they do not allow it to be built up in that which is Christ Jesus.

It is impossible for a born again christian to lose ALL faith. He may fall away, but he can never lose his inheritance in heaven. 1 Peter 1:4

http://www.gotquestions.org/Hebrews-10-26.html

I use to believe once saved always saved, but got a new insight to this. Matthew 10:22; 24:13; Rev 2:10 all say that to those who endure unto the end are those who will be saved. The end of what you might ask, the end of all the trials and tribulations we face daily in this word of evil wickedness that surrounds us and will wax worse and worse until Jesus returns and calls His Bride to meet Him in the air, 1 Thessalonians 4. Those whose faith in Christ is weak as they never allow it to mature or build upon it will be more inclined to curse God (blasphemy) from their heart and completely turn away from Him denouncing God in their lives when not trusting God in all things when they face the trials and tribulations of this world and actually blame God for their torments.

Philippians Chapter Two gives us insight on how to endure by allowing ourselves to be humbled before the Father in all humility. Many come to the alter, but soon waver from it, but it is those who come to the alter of grace and are truly sealed by the Holy Spirit and remain in the will of God through obedience to His word by applying it to their lives knowing that even when we face the evil of this world God is right there with us as we run the race that is set before us, Hebrews 12:1,2.

When we first accept Christ as our Lord and Savior through pure repentance we are only at that time saved or delivered from our past sins as we begin our personal relationship with Jesus and true faith that is Christ will lead us into Gods righteousness as we have been Spiritually renewed, John 3:3-7, and sealed by the Holy Spirit.

The only thing that can separate us from the love of God is blasphemy against His Holy Spirit which means coming against God and anyone who is truly sealed by His Spirit will not want to come against Him, buy draw even closer to Him.

Ephesians 4:30 and grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Romans 8:
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36 As it is written, for thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

38 for I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
I use to believe once saved always saved, but got a new insight to this. Matthew 10:22; 24:13; Rev 2:10 all say that to those who endure unto the end are those who will be saved.

Onced saved, always saved is biblical truth. He's speaking about apostates here that do not endure and walk away completely. They were never born again to begin with. If you are truly born again, you most certainly will endure the trials. God will make sure of that. Blessings.
 
Urk,

I would just like to say, "Thank you", for replying to my question. :-)

So, in conclusion, would you agree that when we take into consideration all of the "professed born again Christians" that we have met throughout our lives, they are all suspect in losing their "inheritance" until we finally meet with the "true born again Christians" in Heaven?
Hi Virginshallconceive,

What would you define the inheritance as?

Blessings in Christ,
Servant of Jesus
 
Urk,

I would just like to say, "Thank you", for replying to my question. :-)

So, in conclusion, would you agree that when we take into consideration all of the "professed born again Christians" that we have met throughout our lives, they are all suspect in losing their "inheritance" until we finally meet with the "true born again Christians" in Heaven?
Hi Virginshallconceive,

What would you define the inheritance as?

Blessings in Christ,
Servant of Jesus

The term "born again Christian" is redundant. The scripture makes no distinction betwen "born again" and "Christian".
 
The term "born again Christian" is redundant. The scripture makes no distinction betwen "born again" and "Christian".
Also the Greek word ἄνωθεν found in John 3:3 does not mean "again" but it means "from above" or maybe even "anew" would be an acceptable translation.

Here are all the other uses of this word in the NT.

And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split. Matthew 27:51

Same Greek word.

And the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. Mark 15:38

Same Greek word.

it seemed fitting for me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in consecutive order, most excellent Theophilus; Luke 1:3

Same Greek word.

"He who comes from above is above all, he who is of the earth is from the earth and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all." John 3:31

Same Greek word.

Jesus answered, "You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason he who delivered Me to you has the greater sin." John 19:11

Same Greek word.

When the soldiers had crucified Jesus, they took his garments and divided them into four parts, one part for each soldier; also his tunic. But the tunic was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom, John 19:23

Same Greek word.

knowing me before from the first, (if they may be willing to testify,) that after the most exact sect of our worship, I lived a Pharisee; Acts 26:5(YLT)

Same Greek word.

But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? Galatians 4:9

Same Greek word here, but let's look into this one a little more. The Greek word for "again" occurs in this sentence right next to the word ἄνωθεν, which many translators render "again" in John 3:3, however the Greek word for again is πάλιν as is demonstrated by countless texts (Matthew 4:7, Matthew 18:19, Mark 14:40, John 6:15, etc. etc. etc. Literally hundreds of texts). The Greek word ἄνωθεν does carry a slightly different meaning here though, not necessarily meaning from above, but anew, literally the thought of this word is "from the start"... So Paul is saying don't be enslaved again like you were from the start (all over again, anew) to these elemental things.

It's incredible how a whole movement of Christianity is based off of a mistranslation of the Greek word...
 
Urk,

I would just like to say, "Thank you", for replying to my question. :-)

So, in conclusion, would you agree that when we take into consideration all of the "professed born again Christians" that we have met throughout our lives, they are all suspect in losing their "inheritance" until we finally meet with the "true born again Christians" in Heaven?
Hi Virginshallconceive,

What would you define the inheritance as?

Blessings in Christ,
Servant of Jesus

Urk was referencing this passage:

1 Peter 1:4



When I responded, I used the word "inheritance" to keep things simple.

Since you're asking, I would define it as an eternal existence in Heaven, but I am very unaware of the specific details of that existence. I will just have to find out when I get there.
 
Introduction:

I understand that most posters here most likely believe that you cannot lose your salvation. In all of the posts though I have noticed on this subject, the most powerful text in all the NT on possibly losing your salvation is ignored. This is not the text in Hebrews 6 which is a bit more difficult to understand and I personally don't believe that is what it is referring to, but Hebrews 10:26-31.

If we want to have a Biblical theology we need to have an interpretation that is consistent with all of the Biblical revelation, and we can't simply influence one interpretation because of a previously held position from a different passage. If two passages come into conflict, chances are that one or maybe both of the passages are being misinterpreted.

In investigating this verse then, let us not run to our favorite verses that we believe ensure salvation for believers, but honestly stare into this warning given by the author of Hebrews.

Exegesis:

Verse 26:

For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,(Heb 10:26).

The "For" at the beginning of the verse connects this text to the previous paragraph about holding fast to our confession and having a full assurance of faith. Why then is the author of Hebrews wishing to stir them up in their confidence of that original confession (a common statement in Hebrews) because of the truth of this warning.

The "we" is the use of the personal pronoun in the first person and plural, so this use not only includes the author of the letter but also the audience whom he is addressing and had just previously exhorted to hold fast their original confidence. "Sinning" is in the present participle which shows that this is an ongoing continual/habitual action that would be committed by the aforementioned group. "Deliberately" is an adverb of manner in relation to the sinning, which in the Greek is at the beginning of the sentence to provide emphasis on this particular word, basically it is saying that if you keep on sinning in a manner that is deliberate.

This is a conditional statement because of the conditional absolute participle provides the "if -- keep on" in v.26

"after receiving" is in the aorist tense showing that this receiving was a complete action, and the knowledge of the truth is that which was completely received. This is a common phrase is seen also in Paul's writings in the Epistles to Timothy, where God "desires all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth." (1 Tim 2:4) This is also found in in 2 Timothy where God may grant to their opponents repentance that even leads to this knowledge of the truth. I believe this to be the truth of what was done by Jesus in the gospel, as the person who goes on sinning deliberately has profaned the blood of the new covenant in v.29

"there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins" the "no longer" is ?????? in the Greek and is described by Louw Nida as follows:

67.130 ??????; ??????: the extension of time up to a point but not beyond—‘no longer.’

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Vol. 1: Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition.) (645). New York: United Bible Societies.

There was a sacrifice for sins for these kinds of people, but not any more. The sacrifice of course must be referring to Jesus' sacrifice for our sins on the Cross as attested to by the rest of Hebrews and how the blood of animal sacrifices is not sufficient to expiate our sins.

Verse 27:

but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that is about to consume the adversaries.(Heb 10:27).

In continuing the sentence, the sacrifice for sins does not remain, but what does remain? "a certain fearful expectation" this use of the word expectation has the sense of a hope or believing something that would take place in the future, of course this isn't a positive but negative expectation that is fearful of the coming judgement.

This judgement is not a judgement either where the believer would simply lose his rewards as some suppose. This is made plain by the Reference to Isaiah 26:11 about the fiery judgement of God that would one day consume his adversaries. This then becomes the expectation of the one who is willfully and habitually sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth.

Verse 28:

Anyone who rejected the law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. (Heb 10:28).

This is not a mere breaking of the law, but a total breaking of the Covenant, which would be characterized by, idolatry, apostasy, blasphemy etc. etc.

Deuteronomy 17 best illustrates this, in that v.2-3 describe that the breaking of the Covenant here is specifically idolatry where they are "transgress his Covenant" by "going and serving other gods." There would then be in v.4 thorough investigation and then on the evidence of two or three witnesses v.6 they would be put to death outside the gates by stoning v.5.

This was indeed a rather fearful punishment as he even puts it "dies without mercy."

Verse 29:

How much worse punishment do you think the person will be considered worthy of who treats with disdain the Son of God and who considers ordinary the blood of the covenant by which he was made holy and who insults the Spirit of grace? (Heb 10:29).

The author is using logic here to show that just as the New Covenant is superior in the Old Covenant in it's greatness, we also will incur a worse judgement than they did if we are to break this Covenant.

Those who disdain or literally "trample under foot" the Son of God and consider's ordinary the blood of the covenant. The Greek word here for ordinary is ?????? and I believe even goes as deep as this meaning provided by Louw-Nida.

53.39 ??????b, ?, ??; ?????????, ??: pertaining to being ritually unacceptable, either as the result of defilement or because of the very nature of the object itself (for example, ritually unacceptable animals)—‘defiled, ritually unclean.’

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Vol. 1: Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition.) (536). New York: United Bible Societies.

That the precious blood of Jesus shed on our behalf is regarded as unclean and when something is considered unclean in the OT it is not to be touched. Therefore this person refuses to be cleansed with the blood of Jesus by which they were formerly made holy. The Greek word for "made holy" (Sanctified) is ?????? and is used in the aorist tense here and indicative mood, showing that this person's being made holy in the past was a reality, that is not called into question. Also, it is in the passive voice, showing that they didn't make themselves holy or falsely try to clean themselves up but were even made holy by that same blood of Jesus whom they now are trampling underfoot.

"and who insults the Spirit of grace?" Note how the qualitative genitive is used here to show that the Spirit who is characterized by grace is the one being insulted here. Insulting the Spirit of grace does not mean that grace will cover it, but this further demonstrates that deliberate sinning that rejects the sacrifice of Jesus will result in the fact that grace will not be provided for this person.

Verse 30:

For we know the one who said,

“Vengeance is mine, I will repay,â€

and again,

“The Lord will judge his people.†(Heb 10:30).

These words are quoted from Deuteronomy 32:35-36 and the author of Hebrews usage of these words is to show that God will judge his people and will bring vengeance on those who have rejected the Son of God by their habitual willful sinning. This judgement is not of rewards it seems, but this judgement of his people will be for some, a judgement of a terrible judgement where he shall avenge the breaking of his Covenant.

Verse 31:

It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Heb 10:31).

Let this last verse stand without much exposition, to not only look to our God with adoration and appreciation for grace and mercy shown, but also with fear so that we may not remain hardened in any sin that might lead us to fall away from this living God.

Conclusion and possible objections:

While this is certainly and probably the most severe warning towards believers in the NT, it is important to note how his tone changes immediately by bringing up their former faithfulness in times of struggle. Also, how he gives the hopeful assurance that they are not among those who shrink back to destruction, but among those who have faith to preservation of their souls v.39.

Which he then goes on to show the testimony of the faithful saints in the OT to serve as that great cloud of witnesses to then press them forward into pursuing Christ and thus throwing off all sin that might cling to us.

This truth should not be thrown around to condemn a brother, but to exhort a brother to depart from wickedness and to look back on their former days of faithfulness and to give them assurance as the author does here that they won't be numbered among those who give up, but press onward!

However, these words don't negate the reality of the warning given in vs.26-31 but rather the reality of the warnings and danger given in those verses should propel us even deeper into holiness and pursuit of the Lord and receive his discipline in such a way that it draws us closer to the throne of grace.

For while God will punish severely those who profane the blood Jesus shed on the Cross, we are at mount Zion not Sinai, where God is not looking to strike us down, but is rather eager to give grace if we but come to our great high priest Jesus our advocate with the Father and confess our sins. He will then be that faithful and just God who will forgive us our sins and cleanse us of all unrighteousness.

Will appreciate your thoughts! :)
Servant of Jesus

If the author said, "if we deliberately keep on sinning after we BELIEVE..." Your interpretation would be spot on.
If "we" as Gods creatures keep on deliberately denying the Holy Spirit(sinning) after we have the knowledge of the truth of the gospel, we will not be saved and we have only judgment to expect. John 16:9 is the "sin" in view in Heb 10:26-31.
Knowledge of the truth does not save,believing it does.

If we, as creatures deliberately keep on sinning(not believing) after we have received the knowledge of the gospel we as creatures can expect judgment.
 
If the author said, "if we deliberately keep on sinning after we BELIEVE..." Your interpretation would be spot on.
If "we" as Gods creatures keep on deliberately denying the Holy Spirit(sinning) after we have the knowledge of the truth of the gospel, we will not be saved and we have only judgment to expect. John 16:9 is the "sin" in view in Heb 10:26-31.
Knowledge of the truth does not save,believing it does.

If we, as creatures deliberately keep on sinning(not believing) after we have received the knowledge of the gospel we as creatures can expect judgment.
They received the knowledge of the truth.. this statement is also found as I stated in my OP, as not being just a receiving of head knowledge, but it accompanies salvation in all the other texts it occurs, chiefly in 1 Timothy 2:4.

1. Also, it is further demonstrated that this is referring to Christians, as there would NO LONGER REMAIN a sacrifice for sins. There is no sacrifice for sins for those who do not believe.
2. These people had been sanctified by the blood of Jesus.
3. They had insulted the Spirit of grace.
4. Also, if you note the use of the "we" he is referring to himself and those hearing this who had believed and received the knowledge of the truth.

I'm sorry, but I believe your interpretation to be wholly inconsistent with the rest of the passage. You've also not responded to my refutation of John 16:9 being the only sin that damns a person, which further does damage to your interpretation.
 
If the author said, "if we deliberately keep on sinning after we BELIEVE..." Your interpretation would be spot on.
If "we" as Gods creatures keep on deliberately denying the Holy Spirit(sinning) after we have the knowledge of the truth of the gospel, we will not be saved and we have only judgment to expect. John 16:9 is the "sin" in view in Heb 10:26-31.
Knowledge of the truth does not save,believing it does.

If we, as creatures deliberately keep on sinning(not believing) after we have received the knowledge of the gospel we as creatures can expect judgment.

I agree with you. My mind also goes back to this passage in numbers and I cannot help to think the writter of Hebrews had this in mind as well. The sin of presumption or high handed sin. One, with full knowledge reject what God said and sinned anyway. (I consider that like spitting in God's face) Num. 15:29-31 There is no sacrifice for this type of sin in the OT law. It's the type of sin David committed against God.
 
For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,


In John MacArthur's commentary on the book of Hebrews he say about verse 26

"Here is possibly the clearest and most concise scriptural defination of apostasy - receiving knowledge of the truth, that is, the gospel, but willfully remaining in sin. An apostate has seen and heard the truth - he knows it well- but he willfully rejects it.

Aspostasy has 2 major characteristics: knowledge of the truth of the gospel and willful rejection of it. "
 
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For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,


In John MacArthur's commentary on the book of Hebrews he say about verse 26
First of all, I recommend not ever using John MacArthur's commentary on the Bible. To me, he is by far one of the worst Bible teachers around, who consistently raises straw-men to the positions he is opposing.

"Here is possibly the clearest and most concise scriptural defination of apostasy - receiving knowledge of the truth, that is, the gospel, but willfully remaining in sin. An apostate has seen and heard the truth - he knows it well- but he willfully rejects it.
He neglects to note that these people:

1. Once had a sacrifice for sins, but no longer as demonstrated in v.26
2. Once had been sanctified (made holy) by the blood of the covenant.. Jesus' blood. How are people who were never truly "real" believers or "born again believers" sanctified as it describes in v.29
3. Or that the fact that the author uses the personal plural pronoun "we" in v.26 which accounts for himself and his audience collectively as this verse is referring to.

Aspostasy has 2 major characteristics: knowledge of the truth of the gospel and willful rejection of it. "
What you're not seeing is that these people were in a covenant relationship with God, that they had been made holy by the blood of the Covenant, and just like how someone who willfully sinned against Yahweh in the Old Covenant as described in Numbers 15, the person who is apart of this New Covenant and willfully breaks it will receive an even harsher judgement. To be precise, a fury of fire that is about to consume the adversaries.

It's as if you're defense and argument for this passage doesn't move on past the first clause, you stop exegeting the moment it continues on to say "there no longer REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS."

Indeed in the original Greek it looks like this:

For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, (Heb 10:26).

The italicized text is the background in the Greek, they are background thoughts that set the state for the main action, or the emphasis which would be the "for sins" in the Greek which provides the Emphasis, indeed if we were to look at this whole passage here is where the emphasis and background is:

For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that is about to consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment do you think the person will be considered worthy of who treats with disdain the Son of God and who considers ordinary the blood of the covenant by which he was made holy and who insults the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know the one who said,

“Vengeance is mine, I will repay,”

and again,

“The Lord will judge his people.”

31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.(Heb 10:26–31).
 
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If the author said, "if we deliberately keep on sinning after we BELIEVE..." Your interpretation would be spot on.
If "we" as Gods creatures keep on deliberately denying the Holy Spirit(sinning) after we have the knowledge of the truth of the gospel, we will not be saved and we have only judgment to expect. John 16:9 is the "sin" in view in Heb 10:26-31.
Knowledge of the truth does not save,believing it does.

If we, as creatures deliberately keep on sinning(not believing) after we have received the knowledge of the gospel we as creatures can expect judgment.
They received the knowledge of the truth.. this statement is also found as I stated in my OP, as not being just a receiving of head knowledge, but it accompanies salvation in all the other texts it occurs, chiefly in 1 Timothy 2:4.

1. Also, it is further demonstrated that this is referring to Christians, as there would NO LONGER REMAIN a sacrifice for sins. There is no sacrifice for sins for those who do not believe.
2. These people had been sanctified by the blood of Jesus.
3. They had insulted the Spirit of grace.
4. Also, if you note the use of the "we" he is referring to himself and those hearing this who had believed and received the knowledge of the truth.

I'm sorry, but I believe your interpretation to be wholly inconsistent with the rest of the passage. You've also not responded to my refutation of John 16:9 being the only sin that damns a person, which further does damage to your interpretation.

Well, the same limp arguments against what you have said have been raised against 2 Peter 2:20-22, as well...

Paul often speaks idealistically. What OUGHT to happen. Some interpret "what ought to be" as "what is". In Hebrews, Paul is being practical. Yes, people have fallen away. There is no doubting that. He is struggling to define that theologically. It is clear that he EXPECTS people to follow the Spirit once they have it - but experience tells him that people respond differently sometimes then he expected...

Regards
 
First of all, I recommend not ever using John MacArthur's commentary on the Bible. To me, he is by far one of the worst Bible teachers around, who consistently raises straw-men to the positions he is opposing.

I purchase the Matthew 1-28 MacArthur New Testament Commentary Four Volume Set for each person who decides to go off to bible college/seminary in my church or circle of friends. I send them another book here and there until they have the entire set for their library. :yes
 
I purchase the Matthew 1-28 MacArthur New Testament Commentary Four Volume Set for each person who decides to go off to bible college/seminary in my church or circle of friends. I send them another book here and there until they have the entire set for their library.
Oh Johnny MacArthur and his Calvinism and Cessationism, while he isn't the worst Bible teacher around and does have some good things to say here and there, most of the time I try to avoid any and all teaching from him.

Oh and I used to be a Calvinist so I listened to John MacArthur quite a bit, so I am not ignorant of what he teaches, it wasn't until later as I studied my Bible more apart from voices like his did I encounter his errors.
 
For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,


In John MacArthur's commentary on the book of Hebrews he say about verse 26
First of all, I recommend not ever using John MacArthur's commentary on the Bible. To me, he is by far one of the worst Bible teachers around, who consistently raises straw-men to the positions he is opposing.

"Here is possibly the clearest and most concise scriptural defination of apostasy - receiving knowledge of the truth, that is, the gospel, but willfully remaining in sin. An apostate has seen and heard the truth - he knows it well- but he willfully rejects it.
He neglects to note that these people:

1. Once had a sacrifice for sins, but no longer as demonstrated in v.26
2. Once had been sanctified (made holy) by the blood of the covenant.. Jesus' blood. How are people who were never truly "real" believers or "born again believers" sanctified as it describes in v.29
3. Or that the fact that the author uses the personal plural pronoun "we" in v.26 which accounts for himself and his audience collectively as this verse is referring to.

Aspostasy has 2 major characteristics: knowledge of the truth of the gospel and willful rejection of it. "
What you're not seeing is that these people were in a covenant relationship with God, that they had been made holy by the blood of the Covenant, and just like how someone who willfully sinned against Yahweh in the Old Covenant as described in Numbers 15, the person who is apart of this New Covenant and willfully breaks it will receive an even harsher judgement. To be precise, a fury of fire that is about to consume the adversaries.

It's as if you're defense and argument for this passage doesn't move on past the first clause, you stop exegeting the moment it continues on to say "there no longer REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS."

Indeed in the original Greek it looks like this:

For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, (Heb 10:26).

The italicized text is the background in the Greek, they are background thoughts that set the state for the main action, or the emphasis which would be the "for sins" in the Greek which provides the Emphasis, indeed if we were to look at this whole passage here is where the emphasis and background is:

For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that is about to consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment do you think the person will be considered worthy of who treats with disdain the Son of God and who considers ordinary the blood of the covenant by which he was made holy and who insults the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know the one who said,

“Vengeance is mine, I will repay,”

and again,

“The Lord will judge his people.”

31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.(Heb 10:26–31).

It is interesting how You do not look at the "sinning" with the context of verses 28-29. Clearly this is the Blasphemy of the Spirit. And the Law is brought up to even further the Authors emphasis on blasphemy of the Spirit.
 
If the author said, "if we deliberately keep on sinning after we BELIEVE..." Your interpretation would be spot on.
If "we" as Gods creatures keep on deliberately denying the Holy Spirit(sinning) after we have the knowledge of the truth of the gospel, we will not be saved and we have only judgment to expect. John 16:9 is the "sin" in view in Heb 10:26-31.
Knowledge of the truth does not save,believing it does.

If we, as creatures deliberately keep on sinning(not believing) after we have received the knowledge of the gospel we as creatures can expect judgment.
They received the knowledge of the truth.. this statement is also found as I stated in my OP, as not being just a receiving of head knowledge, but it accompanies salvation in all the other texts it occurs, chiefly in 1 Timothy 2:4.

1. Also, it is further demonstrated that this is referring to Christians, as there would NO LONGER REMAIN a sacrifice for sins. There is no sacrifice for sins for those who do not believe.
2. These people had been sanctified by the blood of Jesus.
3. They had insulted the Spirit of grace.
4. Also, if you note the use of the "we" he is referring to himself and those hearing this who had believed and received the knowledge of the truth.

I'm sorry, but I believe your interpretation to be wholly inconsistent with the rest of the passage. You've also not responded to my refutation of John 16:9 being the only sin that damns a person, which further does damage to your interpretation.

Well, the same limp arguments against what you have said have been raised against 2 Peter 2:20-22, as well...

Paul often speaks idealistically. What OUGHT to happen. Some interpret "what ought to be" as "what is". In Hebrews, Paul is being practical. Yes, people have fallen away. There is no doubting that. He is struggling to define that theologically. It is clear that he EXPECTS people to follow the Spirit once they have it - but experience tells him that people respond differently sometimes then he expected...

Regards

Limp arguments only to those who think Jesus needs some Help to get us saved and into heaven.

Francis, Give us a detailed outline of what we need to do to get to heaven. Tell us of the things that we cannot do. What can we do? How many times can we fail? What are the Specifics that we can and can not do? How many times can we do good to cover in what we fail?

If your right, I want you to tell me in Specifics on what I can and Cannot do. How many times I can fail and remain safe. How many times I succeed and can erase the failures. What EXACTLY can I do and What can I NOT do?

And If you are serious with what you believe and care for people you would have an exact layout for people like me so I could Get to heaven. I would love for you to be there, so why are you not telling me EXACTLY how to get there? I Do not have the intelligence of most on this forum, so what if I do not make it? I cannot figure out what all you intelligent people have figured out. Where is my Hope in salvation?
 
Limp arguments only to those who think Jesus needs some Help to get us saved and into heaven.

I didn't say Jesus needs help. Do you think He needs help getting Satan into heaven???

Or Satan's minions and followers?

Francis, Give us a detailed outline of what we need to do to get to heaven. Tell us of the things that we cannot do. What can we do? How many times can we fail? What are the Specifics that we can and can not do? How many times can we do good to cover in what we fail?

That would appear to be off topic. Perhaps another time.

All I can say is that Hebrews 10 and 2 Peter 2 are among MANY Scriptures that speak of the possibility of being locked out of the Kingdom of God. Jesus Himself states one must obey the Will of the Father - even "Lord, Lord" won't be enough, if you don't obey the Will of the Father.

If your right, I want you to tell me in Specifics on what I can and Cannot do. How many times I can fail and remain safe. How many times I succeed and can erase the failures. What EXACTLY can I do and What can I NOT do?

What can you do? Nothing, without Christ. With Christ, we can do anything.

How many times can you fail? Well, Jesus did say we are to forgive 70 times 7 times, which I would think means a lot. I couldn't imagine God doing less.

And If you are serious with what you believe and care for people you would have an exact layout for people like me so I could Get to heaven.

You seem upset. I am sorry to hear that. It is not my intention to get you upset. I am just saying that Hebrews 10 is convincing evidence that OSAS is a failed attempt to explain soteriology. Nothing personal.

Regards
 
I purchase the Matthew 1-28 MacArthur New Testament Commentary Four Volume Set for each person who decides to go off to bible college/seminary in my church or circle of friends. I send them another book here and there until they have the entire set for their library.
Oh Johnny MacArthur and his Calvinism and Cessationism, while he isn't the worst Bible teacher around and does have some good things to say here and there, most of the time I try to avoid any and all teaching from him.

Oh and I used to be a Calvinist so I listened to John MacArthur quite a bit, so I am not ignorant of what he teaches, it wasn't until later as I studied my Bible more apart from voices like his did I encounter his errors.


If you know his teaching as well as you claim, you would have to be honest in your earlier post about him and tell the truth. He DOES address the things you claim he does not. MY goal was not to copy all 15 pages he has dedicated to those few verses alone. (he also does not omit the verses before or after that passage) He teaches the entire book of Hebrews with consistency.

As a side note.

Calling Dr. MacArthur "Johnny" or making false claims about him (does not address, strawman) is not going to deminish the fact his real name, life and teachings is out there for all the world to examine. (we use fake names ) Like him or not he holds a PhD in Biblical Theology, has years upon years of advanced theological training in scriptrue, Greek and Hebrew. He is well respected for both his sound teaching and holy lifestyle. He is the Pres. of Master's College and has been a defender of the faith longer than you and I have been put together. Has written over 150 books on scritpure selling millions of copies around the world. He radio program is also hear around the world.

You may believe you have more bible knowledge than he does but I simply don't buy it. I may not agree with everything he teaches but "straw man" is not a word used with people who are in the know when it comes to his doctrine. Trying to tear this man down is not going to help your case at all.
 
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Introduction:

I understand that most posters here most likely believe that you cannot lose your salvation. In all of the posts though I have noticed on this subject, the most powerful text in all the NT on possibly losing your salvation is ignored. This is not the text in Hebrews 6 which is a bit more difficult to understand and I personally don't believe that is what it is referring to, but Hebrews 10:26-31.

If we want to have a Biblical theology we need to have an interpretation that is consistent with all of the Biblical revelation, and we can't simply influence one interpretation because of a previously held position from a different passage. If two passages come into conflict, chances are that one or maybe both of the passages are being misinterpreted.

In investigating this verse then, let us not run to our favorite verses that we believe ensure salvation for believers, but honestly stare into this warning given by the author of Hebrews.

Exegesis:

Verse 26:

For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,(Heb 10:26).

The "For" at the beginning of the verse connects this text to the previous paragraph about holding fast to our confession and having a full assurance of faith. Why then is the author of Hebrews wishing to stir them up in their confidence of that original confession (a common statement in Hebrews) because of the truth of this warning.

The "we" is the use of the personal pronoun in the first person and plural, so this use not only includes the author of the letter but also the audience whom he is addressing and had just previously exhorted to hold fast their original confidence. "Sinning" is in the present participle which shows that this is an ongoing continual/habitual action that would be committed by the aforementioned group. "Deliberately" is an adverb of manner in relation to the sinning, which in the Greek is at the beginning of the sentence to provide emphasis on this particular word, basically it is saying that if you keep on sinning in a manner that is deliberate.

This is a conditional statement because of the conditional absolute participle provides the "if -- keep on" in v.26

"after receiving" is in the aorist tense showing that this receiving was a complete action, and the knowledge of the truth is that which was completely received. This is a common phrase is seen also in Paul's writings in the Epistles to Timothy, where God "desires all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth." (1 Tim 2:4) This is also found in in 2 Timothy where God may grant to their opponents repentance that even leads to this knowledge of the truth. I believe this to be the truth of what was done by Jesus in the gospel, as the person who goes on sinning deliberately has profaned the blood of the new covenant in v.29

"there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins" the "no longer" is οὐκέτι in the Greek and is described by Louw Nida as follows:

67.130 οὐκέτι; μηκέτι: the extension of time up to a point but not beyond—‘no longer.’

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Vol. 1: Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition.) (645). New York: United Bible Societies.

There was a sacrifice for sins for these kinds of people, but not any more. The sacrifice of course must be referring to Jesus' sacrifice for our sins on the Cross as attested to by the rest of Hebrews and how the blood of animal sacrifices is not sufficient to expiate our sins.

Verse 27:

but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that is about to consume the adversaries.(Heb 10:27).

In continuing the sentence, the sacrifice for sins does not remain, but what does remain? "a certain fearful expectation" this use of the word expectation has the sense of a hope or believing something that would take place in the future, of course this isn't a positive but negative expectation that is fearful of the coming judgement.

This judgement is not a judgement either where the believer would simply lose his rewards as some suppose. This is made plain by the Reference to Isaiah 26:11 about the fiery judgement of God that would one day consume his adversaries. This then becomes the expectation of the one who is willfully and habitually sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth.

Verse 28:

Anyone who rejected the law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. (Heb 10:28).

This is not a mere breaking of the law, but a total breaking of the Covenant, which would be characterized by, idolatry, apostasy, blasphemy etc. etc.

Deuteronomy 17 best illustrates this, in that v.2-3 describe that the breaking of the Covenant here is specifically idolatry where they are "transgress his Covenant" by "going and serving other gods." There would then be in v.4 thorough investigation and then on the evidence of two or three witnesses v.6 they would be put to death outside the gates by stoning v.5.

This was indeed a rather fearful punishment as he even puts it "dies without mercy."

Verse 29:

How much worse punishment do you think the person will be considered worthy of who treats with disdain the Son of God and who considers ordinary the blood of the covenant by which he was made holy and who insults the Spirit of grace? (Heb 10:29).

The author is using logic here to show that just as the New Covenant is superior in the Old Covenant in it's greatness, we also will incur a worse judgement than they did if we are to break this Covenant.

Those who disdain or literally "trample under foot" the Son of God and consider's ordinary the blood of the covenant. The Greek word here for ordinary is κοινός and I believe even goes as deep as this meaning provided by Louw-Nida.

53.39 κοινόςb, ή, όν; ἀκάθαρτος, ον: pertaining to being ritually unacceptable, either as the result of defilement or because of the very nature of the object itself (for example, ritually unacceptable animals)—‘defiled, ritually unclean.’

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Vol. 1: Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition.) (536). New York: United Bible Societies.

That the precious blood of Jesus shed on our behalf is regarded as unclean and when something is considered unclean in the OT it is not to be touched. Therefore this person refuses to be cleansed with the blood of Jesus by which they were formerly made holy. The Greek word for "made holy" (Sanctified) is ἁγιάζω and is used in the aorist tense here and indicative mood, showing that this person's being made holy in the past was a reality, that is not called into question. Also, it is in the passive voice, showing that they didn't make themselves holy or falsely try to clean themselves up but were even made holy by that same blood of Jesus whom they now are trampling underfoot.

"and who insults the Spirit of grace?" Note how the qualitative genitive is used here to show that the Spirit who is characterized by grace is the one being insulted here. Insulting the Spirit of grace does not mean that grace will cover it, but this further demonstrates that deliberate sinning that rejects the sacrifice of Jesus will result in the fact that grace will not be provided for this person.

Verse 30:

For we know the one who said,

“Vengeance is mine, I will repay,â€

and again,

“The Lord will judge his people.†(Heb 10:30).

These words are quoted from Deuteronomy 32:35-36 and the author of Hebrews usage of these words is to show that God will judge his people and will bring vengeance on those who have rejected the Son of God by their habitual willful sinning. This judgement is not of rewards it seems, but this judgement of his people will be for some, a judgement of a terrible judgement where he shall avenge the breaking of his Covenant.

Verse 31:

It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Heb 10:31).

Let this last verse stand without much exposition, to not only look to our God with adoration and appreciation for grace and mercy shown, but also with fear so that we may not remain hardened in any sin that might lead us to fall away from this living God.

Conclusion and possible objections:

While this is certainly and probably the most severe warning towards believers in the NT, it is important to note how his tone changes immediately by bringing up their former faithfulness in times of struggle. Also, how he gives the hopeful assurance that they are not among those who shrink back to destruction, but among those who have faith to preservation of their souls v.39.

Which he then goes on to show the testimony of the faithful saints in the OT to serve as that great cloud of witnesses to then press them forward into pursuing Christ and thus throwing off all sin that might cling to us.

This truth should not be thrown around to condemn a brother, but to exhort a brother to depart from wickedness and to look back on their former days of faithfulness and to give them assurance as the author does here that they won't be numbered among those who give up, but press onward!

However, these words don't negate the reality of the warning given in vs.26-31 but rather the reality of the warnings and danger given in those verses should propel us even deeper into holiness and pursuit of the Lord and receive his discipline in such a way that it draws us closer to the throne of grace.

For while God will punish severely those who profane the blood Jesus shed on the Cross, we are at mount Zion not Sinai, where God is not looking to strike us down, but is rather eager to give grace if we but come to our great high priest Jesus our advocate with the Father and confess our sins. He will then be that faithful and just God who will forgive us our sins and cleanse us of all unrighteousness.

Will appreciate your thoughts! :)
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In a great house there are vessels of honour and vessels of dishonour. God will reject those who don't keep their garments clean.

Does this mean they will be cast into the lake of fire? No, we are told they will be cast into outer darkness.

The problem with modern Christianity is that everything revolves around how one feels...rather than the truth. Is it any wonder that most modern Christians will be rejected? We are in the time of the church of the Laodiceans. But the ones who sleep don't bat an eye over this.
 
As a side note.

Calling Dr. MacArthur "Johnny" or making false claims about him (does not address, strawman) is not going to deminish the fact his real name, life and teachings is out there for all the world to examine. (we use fake names ) Like him or not he holds a PhD in Biblical Theology, has years upon years of advanced theological training in scriptrue, Greek and Hebrew. He is well respected for both his sound teaching and holy lifestyle. He is the Pres. of Master's College and has been a defender of the faith longer than you and I have been put together. Has written over 150 books on scritpure selling millions of copies around the world. He radio program is also hear around the world.

You may believe you have more bible knowledge than he does but I simply don't buy it. I may not agree with everything he teaches but "straw man" is not a word used with people who are in the know when it comes to his doctrine. Trying to tear this man down is not going to help your case at all.
His whole interpretation is built on this presupposition:

"Hebrews, we're in this situation. Now, look at the advantage they'd have. Look at verse 4.[Hebrews 6] "They were enlightened." What is enlightenment? Head knowledge. They were enlightened. It refers to the light of knowledge and teaching. It's the natural knowledge of truth, acquired through the senses.

The Gospel had broken on their minds and they understood it. In fact, it even says once enlightened, and the word is once for all. They, at one time, were so informed on the Gospel, that there was nothing more to say. They intellectually comprehended every bit of it. They understood it in their minds.

There are plenty of people like that. They know the Gospel. They know it completely. They just are on the borderline, and they've never committed themselves to it. They were enlightened, head knowledge." - John MacArthur

This is eisegesis, notice he doesn't examine the meaning of the word "knowledge" in Hebrews 10, or "enlightened" in Hebrews 6, but rather ASCRIBES a meaning onto what it is referring to.

1. Hebrews. Hb. uses the verb φωτίζω twice of Christians, the reference being to the beginning of the Christian life, 6:4; 10:32; → I, 382, 21 ff.; IV, 1005, 35 ff. Baptism is in view. But the use of the verb is not developed and there is no fixed baptismal terminology → 357, 19 ff. Illumination takes place at baptism, but the verb does not denote this technically;384 it simply refers to the process of illumination as such.

. Vol. 9: Theological dictionary of the New Testament. 1964- (G. Kittel, G. W. Bromiley & G. Friedrich, Ed.) (electronic ed.) (355). Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans.

Also, he is only revered within the Reformed tradition (Calvinists) outside of it he has been called to task for his numerous straw-men arguments particularly on the subject of Calvinism. He has not ceased from offering those arguments so I don't really care how "educated" he is, I have a big issue with his exegesis, or rather.. eisegesis..
 
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