Antichrist is not a man.

[Cornelius]

I will put together an answer for you WW, its a bit late here and I am falling asleep :yes so I cannot give you a good answer right now.

C

 

[whirlwind]

I will put together an answer for you WW, its a bit late here and I am falling asleep :yes so I cannot give you a good answer right now.

C

Thank you C....I have been checking for an answer all day. A great deal hinges on it.

 

[Fembot]

I have heard that the antichrist is a man and the beast is a system. May be. I do realize that the spirit of antichrist has always inhabited both individuals and systems.

 

[Fembot]

I must say, I am a little surprised at the lack of "seeing" of many Christians at this moment. Why is it that most are in denial about what is going on ? Its happening again, just like it happened to the Jews in the second World War. They also refused to believe that something evil could happen to them. Most Americans refuse to believe that their country will soon be killing Christians. My country is gearing up for a genocide.......and most white people here also think it will not happen to them. Well its going to happen. Soon, maybe even this year, thousands and thousands of white people are going to die here. Its being whispered and there is really nothing we can do about it. Where do we go? Antichrist is here as well and planning something for my country too and believe me, its not just one man.

We have to hide in Psalm 91 and we will

C

Sorry to dig back so far. I understand what you are speaking about Cornelius. Up until the "thousands and thousands of white people are going to die" part. If this is explained later in the conversation, just ignore this post, I'll find it.

 

[Fembot]

What does the Scriptures state concerning antichrist? What is mere speculation concerning antichrist? Theories of what antichrist is supposed to do.

Appear during the final seven years of the Christian era.
Rule for 3 ½ years as a one who brings peace.
Following the 3 ½ year of peace; he will rule for 3 ½ years as a corrupt evil leader.
He will help the Jewish people to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem.
He will reinstate the Mosaic sacrificial system in the temple.
He will destroy the temple in the last 3 ½ years of his corrupt reign.
He will stop the temple sacrifices in Jerusalem in the middle of the 7 years.
He will cause everyone to worship him as God.
He will betray the Jewish people turning from them.
He will begin the battle of Armageddon.
He will persecute the “saints†during a seven year tribulation
He will be Satan in human form.
Miscellaneous other legends including 666.

Not one of those ideas can be directly supported from Scripture. Most of those ideas came from a misinterpretation of Daniel’s seventieth week as a seven year tribulation period.

There are only four actual verses in Scripture which speak directly of antichrist.

I John 2:18-19 “Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour. (19) They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.†(NASB)

I John 2:22-23 “Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. (23) Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.â€Â

I John 4:2-3 “By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, (3) and ever spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.â€Â

2 John 7 “For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.â€Â

I John 2:22 and 2 John 7: The definite article (te) appears in the Greek text and is translated in the NASB. Consequently, this is “THE†(te) antichrist. The New American Standard is a little clearer than the King James Version. In the NASB, the definite article (te) is translated. All those persons who deny Jesus are not merely “an†antichrist but are “THE†antichrist!
Furthermore, “you have heard†is not a declaration of a fact.

Who is THE (te) antichrist?

It is the last hour (John is making this declaration of HIS time.) You have heard that antichrist is coming (addressed to the believers in John’s time.) Even now (John’s time) many antichrists have appeared. They went out from us (John’s time). John used the plural pronoun “they†five times in I John 2:19

1.They went out from us, but
2.they were not really of us;
3.for if they had been of us,
4.they would have remained with us;
5.but they went out, so that it would be shown that
6.they all are not of us.â€Â


1.Antichrist is anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ.
2.Anyone who denies the Son does not have the Father.
3.Consequently, antichrist denies the Father and the Son.
4.Every “spirit†that does not confess Jesus is not from God and is antichrist.
5.Every spirit who does not confess Jesus is the spirit of antichrist.
6.You have heard that antichrist is coming but is already in the world.
7.Hence the spirit of antichrist existed in John’s time!
8.Many deceivers have gone out into the world.
9.Those deceivers who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh are THE deceivers and THE antichrist.

THE antichrist is anyone who denies that Jesus has come in the flesh and is the Christ.

I John 2:18 and I John 4:3 both declare ‘you have heard, you have heard’. The Holy Spirit speaking through the Apostle John does not state that a specific antichrist is coming. He is declaring that “You have heard†that one is coming! Nor is the Holy Spirit declaring that “the antichrist†is coming in the future! Actually, he is using the same figure of speech, “You have heard,†to deny it.

Consequently, He is declaring, “Church you have a false doctrine. Anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ or that He has come in the flesh is THE antichrist. “The antichrist†is already in the world during John’s time!

Pseudo-prophets utilizing numerology of Greek and Roman calendars have attempted to decode “666†found in Revelation 13:14. They announce a pope, potentate, king, conqueror or guru as “The antichrist.†The Christian’s battle is a spiritual battle! Satan is a spirit and is fighting spiritual warfare for the souls of men and women. Revelation 18:8-13.

Satan’s real officers are: Nero, Kant, Hume, Spinoza, Freud, Darwin, Voltaire, Paine, Jung, Sagan, Moon and the adherents to the New Age are antichrist. The Bible speaks of “the antiist†because God sees each person individually. Every person who rejects God’s son Jesus and turning from him is “the†person who has rejected Jesus. Consequently, he or she is “the antichrist.â€Â

Maranatha!
Matureartisan

:amen to your Revelation quote. Why do you say this about Jung in your last paragraph?

 

[Cornelius]

WW, I copied this for you from the book Hidden Manna, I cannot say it cleared than this myself.

FALSE PROPHET BEAST–MEMBER OF THE HARLOT
Most agree that the second beast in Revelation 13 is the false prophet.
He is given authority by the first beast for the second stage of the last 3-1/2
years of the Tribulation (Rev.13:5). He is identifed as a beast because
he is a corporate body as is every other prophetic beast in Scripture.
(Rev.13:11) And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth;
and he had two horns like unto a lamb, and he spake as a
dragon.(12) And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast
in his sight. And he maketh the earth and them dwell therein
to worship the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed. This
second beast in chapter 13 is also identified after the world beast in 16:13
as the false prophet. Here we see that the false prophet masquerades as the
lamb: “two horns like unto a lamb†but he speaks as the world and
Satan: “and he spake as a dragon†(beast). This impostor leadership
for the harlot has “a form of godliness†(Titus 3:5) but is carnal and can
only teach a worldly corruption of the Word. They are actually a mouthpiece
for the world beast in the apostate church. It was said of the world beast,
(13:5) and there was given to him a mouth speaking great
things and blasphemies. These apostates speak against (Greek:
blasphemeo) God with their hypnotizing,ear-tickling doctrines of all-fly-
away, unconditional eternal security, worldly prosperity, greasy grace, and
anything but the self-crucifying truth.
The false prophet is a corporate body within the corporate body of the
harlot, which is female because they receive the seed of antichrist. In verse
15 we see the female body of the false prophet. “And it was given to
her (Greek) to give spirit (Greek) to the image of the beast.†Bible
numerics show a perfect pattern for “her†in the original Greek and in
the most accurate New Testament, the Numeric English New Testament
by Ivan Panin. There is no pattern in “he†or “itâ€Â. Numerics show beyond
a shadow of a doubt which word is correct here. In the rest of the text
this false prophet is identified as male by the same numeric pattern. A
translator would have had to respect the Word enough to ignore his own reasoning to simply translate what was there.

 

[Cornelius]

Sorry to dig back so far. I understand what you are speaking about Cornelius. Up until the "thousands and thousands of white people are going to die" part. If this is explained later in the conversation, just ignore this post, I'll find it.

Fembot, I live in South Africa and we are now in an era of reversed Apartheid, where the black majority now discriminates against the white minority. (We live in the world, so this is to be expected and is nothing new) But we have more coming our way , because the word on the street is that( like Rwanda), a genocide is being planned here for the white population.Its a widely discussed subject in my country and we also have prophesies dating back to 1911 , that speak of it. I did not explain any further in another post. My point was, that the only safe place is IN Christ. That means we have to trust what He promises, like the protection of Psalm 91.
Blessings
C

 

[whirlwind]

WW, I copied this for you from the book Hidden Manna, I cannot say it cleared than this myself.

FALSE PROPHET BEAST–MEMBER OF THE HARLOT
Most agree that the second beast in Revelation 13 is the false prophet.
He is given authority by the first beast for the second stage of the last 3-1/2
years of the Tribulation (Rev.13:5). He is identifed as a beast because
he is a corporate body as is every other prophetic beast in Scripture.
(Rev.13:11) And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth;
and he had two horns like unto a lamb, and he spake as a
dragon.(12) And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast
in his sight. And he maketh the earth and them dwell therein
to worship the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed. This
second beast in chapter 13 is also identified after the world beast in 16:13
as the false prophet. Here we see that the false prophet masquerades as the
lamb: “two horns like unto a lamb†but he speaks as the world and
Satan: “and he spake as a dragon†(beast). This impostor leadership
for the harlot has “a form of godliness†(Titus 3:5) but is carnal and can
only teach a worldly corruption of the Word. They are actually a mouthpiece
for the world beast in the apostate church. It was said of the world beast,
(13:5) and there was given to him a mouth speaking great
things and blasphemies. These apostates speak against (Greek:
blasphemeo) God with their hypnotizing,ear-tickling doctrines of all-fly-
away, unconditional eternal security, worldly prosperity, greasy grace, and
anything but the self-crucifying truth.
The false prophet is a corporate body within the corporate body of the
harlot, which is female because they receive the seed of antichrist. In verse
15 we see the female body of the false prophet. “And it was given to
her (Greek) to give spirit (Greek) to the image of the beast.†Bible
numerics show a perfect pattern for “her†in the original Greek and in
the most accurate New Testament, the Numeric English New Testament
by Ivan Panin. There is no pattern in “he†or “itâ€Â. Numerics show beyond
a shadow of a doubt which word is correct here. In the rest of the text
this false prophet is identified as male by the same numeric pattern. A
translator would have had to respect the Word enough to ignore his own reasoning to simply translate what was there.

Thank you C....I'll have to digest this.

Throughout the Bible in the pattern of good vs evil it seems EVERYTHING has an opposite force. Christ - antichrist, The Rock - their rock, etc, etc., etc. (I sound like Yul Brenner in the King and I ).

So, in continuation of that pattern....there is the body of Christ (His church) vs the body of Satan (the first beast). Then we have the (man child/very elect ) that are of His body vs Satan's (man child/very elect)....that are of his body and they are the (second beast/false prophet).

Israel (the woman) gives birth and is "saved in childbearing" by her man child, the two witnesses. The great whore gives birth to her children....and they are the two false witnesses:

Matthew 26:59-60 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put Him to death; but found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses.

As there (were/are now ")many false witnesses" there are many true witnesses for our Father. But, some of those true witnesses are the "two witnesses" while some of the many false witnesses are Satan's "two false witnesses." And....the two sets come "at the last."

Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen."

The first fruits come at the last, the end of days. Many witnesses are called but a few are chosen for the specific task required.

 

[Fembot]

Sorry to dig back so far. I understand what you are speaking about Cornelius. Up until the "thousands and thousands of white people are going to die" part. If this is explained later in the conversation, just ignore this post, I'll find it.

Fembot, I live in South Africa and we are now in an era of reversed Apartheid, where the black majority now discriminates against the white minority. (We live in the world, so this is to be expected and is nothing new) But we have more coming our way , because the word on the street is that( like Rwanda), a genocide is being planned here for the white population.Its a widely discussed subject in my country and we also have prophesies dating back to 1911 , that speak of it. I did not explain any further in another post. My point was, that the only safe place is IN Christ. That means we have to trust what He promises, like the protection of Psalm 91.
Blessings
C

Thanks for clarifying. Though, I highly doubt this will occur, you probably have more insight than I do. Great topic, btw, as well.

God Bless