Apollyon/Abaddon

[DavidT]

Why can't you give me the scripture that says Satan becomes a person of flesh and blood?

Because your false assumption that the angelic body is one of flesh is not Scriptural.

Like I have said, why would God give to Satan to torment those who are already Satan's own. Do you really think that Satan would torment someone so bad in hopes that they would turn back to God.

God uses Satan to punish the wicked and rebellious; that is learned from study in The Old Testament prophets. Why haven't you understood that? (see Isaiah 30:31-33 as God sometimes uses the title of "the Assyrian" put for Satan. That is Satan that is already sentenced to perish in that "Tophet", and is what Jesus referred to in Matt.25:41.)

Apollyon is an angel sent from God just like the angel in Exodus 12:23; Job 33:22; Proverbs 16:14; 2Samuel 24:15-16; 1Chronicles 21:15; 2Kings 19:35 that were all called a destroyer sent by God.

Destroying angel (Bible) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Apollyon" is from Greek apollumi which means 'perdition', and often called 'the destroyer'.

Satan is that "destroyer" of Exodus that God sent upon the Egyptians, and God protected His people by the Passover sacrifice of lamb's blood spread upon their door posts.

Christ revealed who that one is simply by showing that he is already judged and sentenced to perdition into the future "lake of fire". Those who do not understand this show they will still "wonder" who that beast is even when they behold him on the earth...

Rev 17:8
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
KJV

As of today, that idea in red about that one going into "perdition" (apollumi), can ONLY apply to Satan and his angels who have already been judged and sentenced to perdition in the "lake of fire". Why is that?

It is because NO FLESH-BORN MAN is judged and sentenced to 'perdition' yet today; only Satan and his angels have. Flesh man is not judged until after... Christ's future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20, with God's Great White Throne Judgment. And that is Bible 101.

 

[for_his_glory]

No, actually your reasoning on that does not fit Bible Scripture, but instead is from a Pop idea from men's doctrines.

Per God's Word, what image... did angels appear with to flesh-born men upon the earth?

Genesis 18 about the "three men" that appeared to Abraham at his tent door is a primary example, because The One Who stood talking with Abraham was Christ, while the other two men went to Lot were the "two angels" of Gen.19.

Do you believe then that angels appear on earth with the image of men, or not?

Only God can give His angels the image of a man as they can not take image of a man by themselves.

Once again, where is it written that Satan will appear as a flesh and blood person in whom you say is the son of perdition in the end of days.

BTW, quit telling others they are wrong because they do not agree with you as this is a violation of the Terms of Service 1.3.

 

[for_his_glory]

God uses Satan to punish the wicked and rebellious; that is learned from study in The Old Testament prophets. Why haven't you understood that? (see Isaiah 30:31-33 as God sometimes uses the title of "the Assyrian" put for Satan. That is Satan that is already sentenced to perish in that "Tophet", and is what Jesus referred to in Matt.25:41.)

Isa 30:31 For through the voice of the LORD shall the Assyrian be beaten down, which smote with a rod.
Isa 30:32 And in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the LORD shall lay upon him, it shall be with tabrets and harps: and in battles of shaking will he fight with it.
Isa 30:33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Sorry, I do not see anything in these verses where God has used Satan to punish the wicked and rebellious. I believe that the reference you made for the Assyrian were real Assyrian's and not a title used for Satan.

 

[for_his_glory]

Satan is that "destroyer" of Exodus that God sent upon the Egyptians, and God protected His people by the Passover sacrifice of lamb's blood spread upon their door posts.

Exo 12:23 For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

Sorry, but Satan is not the destroyer in that verse, but an angel God sends down called the destroyer in whom God uses to slay all the first born of Egypt as God will pass over the blood covered doors.

Once again, God is no going to use Satan to kill those who are already his own as they are not of God.