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Dave Slayer
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Are dinosaurs pre-historic?
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Depends on the sense in which you are using the word prehistoric. The Wiki article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory offers some clarification.Dave Slayer said:Are dinosaurs pre-historic?
Nobody has yet defined what they understand is meant by prehistoric. From the introduction to the Wiki article on Prehistory:caromurp said:Well, lets see...
Now out of the ground the Lord God had formed every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. (Genesis 2:19)
...so, no they are not "pre-historic".
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrehistoryPrehistory (Latin, præ = before Greek, ιÃĀοÃÂία = history) is a term used to describe the period before written history. Paul Tournal originally coined the term Pré-historique in describing the finds he had made in the caves of southern France. It came into use in French in the 1830s to describe the time before writing, and the word "prehistoric" was introduced into English by Daniel Wilson in 1851.
The term "prehistory" can be used to refer [to] all time since the beginning of the universe, although the term is more often used to describe periods when there was life on Earth and even more commonly, to the time when human-like beings appear on Earth. Prehistorians typically use a Three age system to divide up human prehistory; scholars of pre-human time period typically use the geologic time scale.
More correctly, I think, both the animals you refer to and dinosaurs are members of the class Reptilia, but the three reptiles you mention are not members of the superorder Dinosauria. There is a consensus amongst palaeontologists that birds are descended from the theropod dinosaurs and so the 10,000 or so species of birds are, in terms of cladistics, dinosaurs, although the general use of the word does not usually include birds. There is no evidence that any dinosaurs other than birds are living today.heather said:Are they though? Even today, we still see examples of dinosaurs such as the bearded dragon and crocodiles and alligators. There may even be some examples of dinosaurs swimming in our oceans. We have no way of knowing since we don't know all of the creatures that exist even today.
John said:Neither.
Dave Slayer said:John said:Neither.
What killed the dinosaurs? Did man hunt them for food?
John said:Dave Slayer said:John said:Neither.
What killed the dinosaurs? Did man hunt them for food?
The flood killed of most, years later they were hunted for food by humans until the surviving populations died off until many years later they were only talked about in history/legend etc. People called them Dragons, almost every ancient civilization has some mention of dragons (dinosaurs).
Interesting food for thought. Google the "Ica stones" They actually depict humans and dinos walking together.
Someone said that this isn't proof dinosaurs and humans walked together. They say artists just drew them together. I don't buy that, but what do you think?
The Ica Stones have no scientific reliability. They come from a site which has never been identified. let alone archaeologically examined. Apart from 'living with dinosaurs', the culture that supposedly produced the Ica Stones also carried out brain transplants and build spacecraft; strange indeed that all they managed to leave behind as their legacy is some engraved stones. There i always a market for antiquities and con artists are adept at exploiting them. Check out this discussion: http://www.skepdic.com/icastones.html.John said:Someone said that this isn't proof dinosaurs and humans walked together. They say artists just drew them together. I don't buy that, but what do you think?
I think the artists had very good models to use ;)
lordkalvan said:The Ica Stones have no scientific reliability. They come from a site which has never been identified. let alone archaeologically examined. Apart from 'living with dinosaurs', the culture that supposedly produced the Ica Stones also carried out brain transplants and build spacecraft; strange indeed that all they managed to leave behind as their legacy is some engraved stones. There i always a market for antiquities and con artists are adept at exploiting them. Check out this discussion: http://www.skepdic.com/icastones.html.John said:Someone said that this isn't proof dinosaurs and humans walked together. They say artists just drew them together. I don't buy that, but what do you think?
I think the artists had very good models to use ;)
The parsimonious answer is that these stones that supposedly depict dinosaurs are fakes. The site where they were supposedly found has neither been identified nor excavated by archaeologists. The provenance of the stones is unverified, the engravings cannot be dated because the context of their discovery is unknown, and the advanced culture that supposedly left them behind left no other traces at all. The Ica Stones as presented for the consumption of tourists and the gullible are a con.Dave Slayer said:What I would like to know is how these people were able to draw dinosaurs on the stones when dinosaurs weren't discovered until the 1800's? These artists lived long before the 1800's didn't they? How did they know about dinosaurs if they died out millions of years ago? Doesn't make any sense.