Are there imposters/cultists in this forum ?

[Tina]

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Why do I get the feeling that there are imposters or cultists in this forum posing as "Christians" ??



There are some that are trying to impose extreme or strange views similar to that of Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses but when asked for their religious affiliations they dodge ....
Own up, if you are one of them !

It would be helpful if profiles could reflect religious affiliations or specific denominations of members so that we know where they are coming from in their stance.

 

[watchman F]

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Why do I get the feeling that there are imposters or cultists in this forum posing as "Christians" ??



There are some that are trying to impose extreme or strange views similar to that of Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses but when asked for their religious affiliations they dodge ....
Own up, if you are one of them !

It would be helpful if profiles could reflect religious affiliations or specific denominations of members so that we know where they are coming from in their stance.

What are the views they are promoting?

 

[Tina]

What are the views they are promoting?

Unless you are one of them, it is pretty obvious, isn't it ?

Seventh-Day Adventists are obsessed over keeping the Saturday Sabbath, while Jehovah Witnesses are paranoid about holidays including Easter, ... as if they are even saved in the first place ...

Now don't get me wrong ... As an Anglican Christian, I do believe in the Sabbath but not in the way cults stretch it to the extreme by distorting Scriptures. And I also know Easter was originally a pagan holiday and certainly have no interest to celebrate any pagan holidays if it entails worshipping pagan gods and idols. Both of these cultic beliefs involve holiness ... and holiness comes from the heart, not from a set of unbiblical and legalistic man-made traditions.



:amen

 

[awaken]

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Why do I get the feeling that there are imposters or cultists in this forum posing as "Christians" ??



There are some that are trying to impose extreme or strange views similar to that of Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses but when asked for their religious affiliations they dodge ....
Own up, if you are one of them !

It would be helpful if profiles could reflect religious affiliations or specific denominations of members so that we know where they are coming from in their stance.

What does it matter what their religion is? I am going to a Baptist church...but I believe in the manifestation of the Spirit. Religion is man made...every religion probably believes something that is not biblical...no religion has it all!

We need to love them no matter what religion they are...not accept what they believe (if it is not biblical)...
We have to answer for what we believe...our faith walk...our journey. If along the way we can help someone else...great! I have been very encouraged by other people from different beliefs..and I have been very discouraged by people from my own denomination.

I do not understand most religions anyway...so to know someones religion..would not help me to help them.

 

[watchman F]

What are the views they are promoting?

Unless you are one of them, it is pretty obvious, isn't it ?

Seventh-Day Adventists are obsessed over keeping the Saturday Sabbath, while Jehovah Witnesses are paranoid about holidays including Easter, ... as if they are even saved in the first place ...

Well I am neither a 7dayer or JW, but I believe in keeping the Sabbath and in not celebrating Easter (well not as the pagans do) I tell my son it is Resurrection Sunday we do not do The bunny or Eggs, because it is pagan, but I do give Him resurrection gifts. These beliefs you have mention are minor to the problem of these cults, many believers believe in keeping God's commandments (for it is biblical to do so), and in not celebrating pagan holy days. The problem with 7 dayers is that believe we must keep the entire Jewish civil law and receive Jesus to be saved, and the JW do not believe Christ is God's Son or that He can save you. I think your confusion comes because like I said many true believers believe what you have supposed to belong to these cults.

Now don't get me wrong ... As an Anglican Christian, I do believe in the Sabbath but not in the way cults stretch it to the extreme by distorting Scriptures. And I also know Easter was originally a pagan holiday and certainly have no interest to celebrate any pagan holidays if it entails worshipping pagan gods and idols. Both of these cultic beliefs involve holiness ... and holiness comes from the heart, not from a set of unbiblical and legalistic man-made traditions.

Here is were you go wrong to assume that those that believe in true holiness believe so because of man-made unbiblical, legalistic, man-made traditions. I find that most people who speak this was do so because they are happy in there sin and do not want anyone to tell them How the Bible says God says we should live.

 

[jasoncran]

watchman as a former jw. i can assure the celebration of easter as the outsiders of that cult celebrate is a big no no.

they dont partake in the communion, only the 144,000 faithful do get do that. the rest thank the Lord(jehovah) that he sent jesus to die on the stake for them.

 

[watchman F]

watchman as a former jw. i can assure the celebration of easter as the outsiders of that cult celebrate is a big no no.

they dont partake in the communion, only the 144,000 faithful do get do that. the rest thank the Lord(jehovah) that he sent jesus to die on the stake for them.

I know that is my point there are much more problem with JWs that not celebrating Easter. Like I said I do not Celebrate ''Easter'' either. I celebrate Resurrection Sunday

 

[jasoncran]

a whole lot more. :crazy my sister is still in that cult.

 

[tim-from-pa]

This subject is a complex one, as there are many unique situations that cannot be funneled into some nice, compartmental category of "cults". Yes, some "cults" are mainline and are well known, but I won't name any. Others, like myself, go to a mainline church, but dare to interpret and think about scripture differently than what mainline Christendom does. We are seen as perhaps a little eccentric within the church, but others, as I am starting to do, drift away and disconnect from any organized religion perhaps finding a small band of similar people, be they on forums or a house church to fellowship with. Many of these so-called heretics may identify with a mainline "cult" leader just so that their beliefs can be generally summarized, but otherwise do not want to fully identify with that leader of claim they are part of their church. You get the idea.

When one does a serious study of the bible, we find that there is some truth in "cults" which is why I am putting quotes around that word. They find error in the orthodox beliefs and have a valid point, but that does not mean they have the full truth either. Since the subject of Sabbath and Holidays were brought up, that is an excellent case-in-point. Technically, the Sabbath was not changed, and as sincere as my pastor is, Jesus did not change the dates and calendar because of his resurrection on a Sunday as if this calendar is some after-thought of God. It was established since the dawn of time and the holidays of the Lord will be celebrated in the Kingdom age according to the bible. Jesus also celebrated them. So, as Christians, I don't think it's too much to ask them to at least be aware of the critical prophetic significance of them and when they arrive on the calendar instead of saying "we are no longer under the law" as an escape hatch to celebrate Gentile ham-laden eating holidays and be abysmally oblivious to God's holy days when they occur. I think that's a disgrace. And if I'm reading too much into scripture to at least believe God on His Sacred Calendar, then I say that goes double for other holidays which are traditions of men in the Orthodox church. So a "cult" that teaches that about God's calendar at least has that much correct.

 

[Vic C.]

...It would be helpful if profiles could reflect religious affiliations or specific denominations of members so that we know where they are coming from in their stance.

They would probably lie or not fill it in anyway.

 

[Nick]

...It would be helpful if profiles could reflect religious affiliations or specific denominations of members so that we know where they are coming from in their stance.

There is a "denomination" field on the profile but as Vic said, people could lie or not fill it in. There is also a "Not a Christian" rank title that can be implemented.

EDIT: this not a christian rank is managed by the administrators.

 

[Servant John]

The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares

24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.â€â€™â€

This forum is just a microcosm of our society......

 

[Strangelove]

It would be helpful if profiles could reflect religious affiliations or specific denominations of members so that we know where they are coming from in their stance.

Yes PLEASE can we have this!

It should say it next to your avatar. A coupla weeks ago you tried to make a non-Christian group and it showed up. It went a bit wrong but.....

There is a "denomination" field on the profile but as Vic said, people could lie or not fill it in.

Yeah but they will be easily caught out soon enough and told to change affiliation. You could make it an essential field to fill in.

Please it would be really helpful to know who we are dealing with. Most people dodge answering affiliation questions.


Please!

 

[Elijah674]

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Why do I get the feeling that there are imposters or cultists in this forum posing as "Christians" ??



There are some that are trying to impose extreme or strange views similar to that of Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses but when asked for their religious affiliations they dodge ....
Own up, if you are one of them !

It would be helpful if profiles could reflect religious affiliations or specific denominations of members so that we know where they are coming from in their stance.

--Elijah here:
See if this is helpful;) (both Ben & I post here & over on this other site)

<!--cached-Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:05:55 +0000-->benny balerio, on 17 November 2010 - 08:19 PM, said:
Lieberman is Jewish, as are 12 others, including Benjamin Cardin and Bernie Sanders.

The 87 others all claim to be Christian, although not all practice what they preach.
1 year ago
http://answers.yahoo...04145019AAjMJ0S

.........................................benny

Me here:
Not ANYTHING of any substance there Ben! Most just hold up the wetted finger & see where the polls go anyway. Christians??? That must be the most popular view, huh?

If you want to give us something? Start with catholic's in both houses. Even the majority leader has one leaving & another taking her place as catholic. But she just stays as minority leader, huh! And Boehner says that 'we [Republicans] will do what the people want!' He even got angry with his pope being criticised a while back by a 'few'.
And the people want what?? By these ex/Protestant ones of Rev. 17:1-5?? WAKE UP BEN!!!)

It is the USA Supreme court that will be your 'c'hristian court for 666.

A side note is the economy. The only thing that would have needed to be done when rebates(??) were handed out, was a two (+) year FREEZE on gasoline prices at $2 a gallon. Even the republican were to far out of it to see that. Even now it is not being thought of.

Had anyone of the 'people' ever wondered where the millions + came from to pay for the OIL SPILL? Add on these other oil companies with [your ex/dollars] and then vote for 'just' anyone [that says that they are Christian??]

--Elijah

PS: Let me just add this question for this forum? Where is the evidence that you are a Christian??

 

[handy]

Please it would be really helpful to know who we are dealing with.

Yeah but they will be easily caught out soon enough...

I think the one statement shines a light upon the other here. It becomes a matter of "by their fruits you shall know them". Or at least by their words.

So many people come through here that have differing ideas about Christianity. Tim-from-PA shows the difficulty here...some Christians think that anyone who is in a small home-church that has a strong identification with one thing (like Sabbath worship) a cult...others think that "mainline" churches are apostate. Some think that Joel Olsteen is an impostor, others think the Pope is the anti-Christ.

In my opinion, it's better to discuss/thresh out things with each other, rather than look at a label besides someone's name. Too often, once that label is there, it becomes a reason not to really listen to anything they have to say...and listening is important, even if there are legitimate areas of disagreement.

That's just my , but I'm just as glad to dispense with the label. On my Facebook, I have my denomination pretty publicly displayed, but for here, I'm just as happy to not be identified as a denomination, but just as a Christian. I'll let y'all decide from my exegesis whether or not I'm an impostor or a cultist, and surprisingly enough (at least to me) there are those who think I am.

 

[Elijah674]

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Why do I get the feeling that there are imposters or cultists in this forum posing as "Christians" ??



There are some that are trying to impose extreme or strange views similar to that of Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses but when asked for their religious affiliations they dodge ....
Own up, if you are one of them !

It would be helpful if profiles could reflect religious affiliations or specific denominations of members so that we know where they are coming from in their stance.

Perhaps you are 8-9 years behind in reading old posts?;) But if you are referring to any of my postings? Here is an old, old, one where I was asked about my past teachings by one who might still be on this board? (maybe even using another name as I had back then?) But if you need to get PERSONAL with [me] being a cult or whatever, with my MIND being read in judgement??, feel free to do so! Matt. 10: 25 is not cultish. So just ASK!

Pastor N.B, if I understand you correctly, you believe currently God is calling out a people from all denominations of mainstream Christianity as well as from the unbelieving, and these ones who come out will form this one true denomination, and only they will be saved.
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P/N/B/ here:
Let me just add that all of these ones will gladly follow the Bible requirements of Everlasting Gospel order. Rom. 8:14. Christ will have no loose cannon's in heaven again with no Gospel order! That is where it all started in the first place! Otherwise the character would not be mature. Also 1 Peter 4:17 finds Adventism 'shaken' first. (judged) And in Christ's day it was the Denomination [as a whole] that were shaken out from the Truth in Christ. See 2 Thess. 2:1-3. And 'the man of sin'? Who replaces a desolate denomination? Again, Gen. 4:7 & Rev. 3:9.

Their doctrine will be the same as that of 7th Day Adventism, and these people in this one true denomination will obey the commandments of God perfectly and have perfected character. Because of their perfected character and pure 7th Day Adventist doctrine, God will allow them and only them into eternal life.

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P/N/B/ here:
I think that you see this correct? But for others sake let me say this, all saved will be saved only one way! Acts 4:12. And in total submission! Acts 5:32 .The righteousness of Christ is the only way to be saved. Rom. 8:1. The power is there, yet it requires a working covenant relationship! Phil. 4:13 & 2 Cor. 12:9. And yes, the only ones saved will be the ones who have been 'proven' safe to save. Na. 1:9 (but this has always been true! A person living in accordance to the light that they had been given)

You appear to consider 7th Day Adventism to have departed from the Lord as Israel in the old testament did, so that though you believe their doctrine to be correct, they are not the called out, the remnant, the elect, whatever you wish to call them.

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Me again:
There are numerous verses of prophecy to tell us this Truth. The Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 verses are the most simple to understand in documented 'inspiration' perhaps? And in Isa. 5 it tells the exact history past & that which is again to be in the future. (even as to the reason of why, in verse 3) Then, along with the two/fold Eze. 9 slaughter of 70AD, & the Rev. 3's Naked/ness of Christ's Righteousness ones, we see that these too, will be [spewed out] as sickening. What Born Again person who [loves Christ] could stay in any yoked membership as a Rev. 18:4 Partaker of openly documented known sin??

Let me clarify! Rev. 18:4 is speaking of Babylon. (and her harlot daughters. see Rev. 17:5) And the verse is not talking of Virgin Israel as Babylon! Yet, if you take note about known sin & being Partakers, the WARNING still is Truth! And notice what your take would be as seen in Israel of old, in the Matt. 10:15'th verse?
Christ states:
"Verily I say unto you, it shall be more tolerable for the land of [Sodom and Gomorrah] in the day of judgement, than for that city." (see verses 5-6 of this chapter for whom Christ was talking about!)

So, yes, surely Babylon was no worse that Sodom and Gomorrah!! But the most guilty are not either of these two! *See Luke 12:47-48.

Am I understanding this right?

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My conclusion:
When one thinks of the Midnight Cry in Matt. 25 & the Shaking of 2 Thess. 2, another good verse (of many) is seen in Micah 2:13.
The descriptive Word is that of 'The Breaker is come up before them: they have broken up, and have passed through the gate, and are gone out by it, and their King shall pass before them, and the Lord on the head of them." (check Zeph. 3:15!) Again, Matt. 23:38 & Matt. 25.

And yes, maybe we see an understanding of what is being said? Let me just add another verse seeing that you seem to be quick to understand a persons posting. In Amos 7:7-8 Amos sees a 'Plumbline' for Virgin Israel. Judgement! And in chapter 5:1-*2 ibid.. we see.. "Hear ye the Word which I take up against you, even a lamentation, O house of Israel. [THE VIRGIN OF ISRAEL IS FALLEN.]" Still yet, 1 Peter 4:17 finds this again in the repeat, but do not get the Midnight Cry of Matt. 25 confused with the LOUD CRY of Rev. 14:9. These that give this cry are the ones whom you describe. And this loud Cry is to the professed Christian World. It is 70 AD's counter part! 666
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[Lewis]

Well I might as well admit it, I am a person of color, and I am president of the South Eastern Pennsylvania, Klu Klux Klan, could you all ever find it in your hearts to forgive me.

 

[jasoncran]

Well I might as well admit it, I am a person of color, and I am president of the South Eastern Pennsylvania, Klu Klux Klan, could you all ever find it in your hearts to forgive me.

i am a member of the black panther party and also the noahide comitee.

 

[Chris]

I'm not one I'm an evangelical christian if that makes you feel better. I have had the same thoughts myself.

From previously talking to Mormons and Jw's you will find them Talking about Old testament doctrine mostly and occasionally referring to New Testament when they have to and even rarer about the holy spirit. They usually push heaven on earth doctrine and stuff like the devil only came to earth in 1913.

I am very guilty though of pretending to be a Chris sometimes.

 

[Adstar]

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Why do I get the feeling that there are imposters or cultists in this forum posing as "Christians" ??



There are some that are trying to impose extreme or strange views similar to that of Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses but when asked for their religious affiliations they dodge ....
Own up, if you are one of them !

It would be helpful if profiles could reflect religious affiliations or specific denominations of members so that we know where they are coming from in their stance.

It's best just to deal with each issue as they come up using scripture to support or dispute each issue.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days