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These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. (John 16:33, ASV)


There are three major theories of the Great Tribulation and a case for all three has been made from the scriptures. Personally I hold fast to the Pretribulation position. However I am prepared to be wrong also. The world we live in is changing daily right now and if a man converts to Christianity in the Middle East there is a great chance he will be executed for for his faith. He will be disowned by his family, fired from his job and beaten for daring to follow the One True God and for dumping his idols.


Why should we be concerned, it has been the last days for the past, almost 2,000 years, hasn't it? The answer is yes and no. It is well understood by all believers that to the LORD, our God, a thousand years is as a day to the LORD. What in the world does that mean? I read the book “Heaven Is For Real” a couple of years back where a four year old boy was dead for, something like 3 minutes. The meeting with the sister that he had never heard about because of the pain of a Still Birth, the horses and other animals he saw and interacted with there, sitting with God the Father, Jesus and others would take hours to days for him to have done but he did it all in three minutes, earth time.


Further proof of the truth he was teaching his Pastor father and mom, he told them he had met his dad's father there. His dad showed him a photo of his dad in his later years but the youngster told him that was not his dad. Then dad remembered the scriptures and asked his mother for a mid-life picture of his dad and on receiving it, he placed it for display in the Dinning Room. When the little man passed it he pointed and proclaimed there is the man he met that was the grandpa he had never seen until he died on the Operating Table.


But let's not chase this rabbit to far. Israel, the Fig Tree, bloomed or was born in a day in May of 1948, marking the season for the return of our LORD. (Matt. 24:3-33) Remember that a thousand years is as a day unto our LORD and that all through scripture we see, from the very beginning, God views completion to be filled in sevens. (Be careful not to fall into the trap of numerology here,) The Earth is either entering into it's seventh millennium or has just entered it and the Fig Tree has bloomed, we are entering into a time of world wide tribulation for the Christians. Are you ready?
 
I am pretrib as well.The rapture could happen at any second.I am very ready and prepared to meet my Lord in the clouds.
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Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began
 
I am going to state my reply and not debate this :whirl
 
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These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. (John 16:33, ASV)


There are three major theories of the Great Tribulation and a case for all three has been made from the scriptures. Personally I hold fast to the Pretribulation position. However I am prepared to be wrong also. The world we live in is changing daily right now and if a man converts to Christianity in the Middle East there is a great chance he will be executed for for his faith. He will be disowned by his family, fired from his job and beaten for daring to follow the One True God and for dumping his idols.


Why should we be concerned, it has been the last days for the past, almost 2,000 years, hasn't it? The answer is yes and no. It is well understood by all believers that to the LORD, our God, a thousand years is as a day to the LORD. What in the world does that mean? I read the book “Heaven Is For Real” a couple of years back where a four year old boy was dead for, something like 3 minutes. The meeting with the sister that he had never heard about because of the pain of a Still Birth, the horses and other animals he saw and interacted with there, sitting with God the Father, Jesus and others would take hours to days for him to have done but he did it all in three minutes, earth time.


Further proof of the truth he was teaching his Pastor father and mom, he told them he had met his dad's father there. His dad showed him a photo of his dad in his later years but the youngster told him that was not his dad. Then dad remembered the scriptures and asked his mother for a mid-life picture of his dad and on receiving it, he placed it for display in the Dinning Room. When the little man passed it he pointed and proclaimed there is the man he met that was the grandpa he had never seen until he died on the Operating Table.


But let's not chase this rabbit to far. Israel, the Fig Tree, bloomed or was born in a day in May of 1948, marking the season for the return of our LORD. (Matt. 24:3-33) Remember that a thousand years is as a day unto our LORD and that all through scripture we see, from the very beginning, God views completion to be filled in sevens. (Be careful not to fall into the trap of numerology here,) The Earth is either entering into it's seventh millennium or has just entered it and the Fig Tree has bloomed, we are entering into a time of world wide tribulation for the Christians. Are you ready?

Are you ready?

I'm ready to leave with Jesus or stay and "fight" whichever He prefers.

We are all going to end up in heaven right?

Nope. We're all going to end up in a New Earth.
 
I'm ready to leave with Jesus or stay and "fight" whichever He prefers.



Nope. We're all going to end up in a New Earth.
The New Earth is the "heaven" where we will spend eternity.Revelation 21:1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.This tells me that there will be an entire new universe created.A new Earth,new skies and a new outer space.A new heaven as well.Will we have access to that new heaven?I don't know Scripture does not say we will have to wait and see.
 
I am pretrib as well.The rapture could happen at any second.I am very ready and prepared to meet my Lord in the clouds.
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Sorry Kathi but you have missed the point of the quoted and the referneced text when they are read in their context. In the Matthew passage Jesus promised us tribulation and after years of study I am convicted that we will not see the Great Tribulation but that the travail we see occuring in the Mid-East, Asia and others areas are coming to America, soon, just as the LORD indicated and many false Christians will turn tail and fearing the first death, run.
 
I'm ready to leave with Jesus or stay and "fight" whichever He prefers.



Nope. We're all going to end up in a New Earth.
Hello Agua,
The issue is far to many are not ready for either circumstance.
 
Sorry Kathi but you have missed the point of the quoted and the referneced text when they are read in their context. In the Matthew passage Jesus promised us tribulation and after years of study I am convicted that we will not see the Great Tribulation but that the travail we see occuring in the Mid-East, Asia and others areas are coming to America, soon, just as the LORD indicated and many false Christians will turn tail and fearing the first death, run.
Are you the same person who told me that I was using the word there-their wrong?
I don't see your point "I hold fast to the Pretribulation position" which is what you said makes me believe that you believe in the rapture and that we as Christians will not see the tribulation.How have I missed the point?
 
Are you the same person who told me that I was using the word there-their wrong?
I don't see your point "I hold fast to the Pretribulation position" which is what you said makes me believe that you believe in the rapture and that we as Christians will not see the tribulation.How have I missed the point?
I have MS that is really ruining my short term and long term memory as I am, according to the doctors, in the final stage. For that reason without a link I cannot say, one way or the other about the words their and there.

Now, on topic, I do hold to the Pretrib theological position but that introductory comment was not the topic but merely a pre-emptive state for clarity. I am certain, due to the number of cowards in this world that there are few believers that do not prefer not to suffer a fate and persecution similar to that of our LORD. But in the Matthew passage;
Matthew 24:1:
And Jesus went out from the temple, and was going on his way; and his disciples came to him to show him the buildings of the temple.
Matthew 24:2:
But he answered and said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Matthew 24:3:
And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Matthew 24:4:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man lead you astray.
Matthew 24:5:
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray.
Matthew 24:6:
And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled: for these things must needs come to pass; but the end is not yet.
Matthew 24:7:
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines and earthquakes in divers places.
Matthew 24:8:
But all these things are the beginning of travail.
Matthew 24:9:
Then shall they deliver you up unto tribulation, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all the nations for my name’s sake.
Matthew 24:10:
And then shall many stumble, and shall deliver up one another, and shall hate one another.
Matthew 24:11:
And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray.
Matthew 24:12:
And because iniquity shall be multiplied, the love of the many shall wax cold.
Matthew 24:13:
But he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved.
Matthew 24:14:
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24:15:
When therefore ye see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let him that readeth understand),
Matthew 24:16:
then let them that are in Judaea flee unto the mountains:
Matthew 24:17:
let him that is on the housetop not go down to take out things that are in his house:
Matthew 24:18:
and let him that is in the field not return back to take his cloak.
Matthew 24:19:
But woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days!
Matthew 24:20:
And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath:
Matthew 24:21:
for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.
Matthew 24:22:
And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
Matthew 24:23:
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Christ, or, Here; believe it not.
Matthew 24:24:
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
Matthew 24:25:
Behold, I have told you beforehand.
Matthew 24:26:
If therefore they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the wilderness; go not forth: Behold, he is in the inner chambers; believe it not.
Matthew 24:27:
For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
Matthew 24:28:
Wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matthew 24:29:
But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:30:
and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:31:
And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Matthew 24:32:
Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh;
Matthew 24:33:
even so ye also, when ye see all these things, know ye that he is nigh, even at the doors,
the verses 4 thru 8 read clearly that before we are raptured we will suffer travail and reading further we see that this persecution will shrink the Church considerably with many, so called, Christians turning on their fellow members... to the death. My read and the read of many Christians studying this subject is that there will be a great persecution of God's Church.

The good news of this, however, is illustrated in scripture and in recent history. The Church always grow in number and, especially, purity when it is attacked in this manor. The Islamic murders of the Christians in the South of Sudan, in the 90s comes to mind as a prime example.

Many are of the opinion that this is not true but our opinions do not matter. What God has said is and will be true and so it is that each of us should be prepared to die for Christ.

 
I see Matthew 24:29-30 as the second coming not the rapture.
 
I don't believe in a trib. I wonder how many jews in America that depending on the source one uses outnumber, or are equal to the numbers in Israel would be saved if jesus returned per futurism. I hold close to partial preterism. be ready at any time. you might die this second.
 
I don't believe in a trib. I wonder how many jews in America that depending on the source one uses outnumber, or are equal to the numbers in Israel would be saved if jesus returned per futurism. I hold close to partial preterism. be ready at any time. you might die this second.

That's the way to look at it.
 
I don't believe in a trib. I wonder how many jews in America that depending on the source one uses outnumber, or are equal to the numbers in Israel would be saved if jesus returned per futurism. I hold close to partial preterism. be ready at any time. you might die this second.
Even if the rapture should come before I die I am ready.I think alot of people are afraid of the thought of it.
 
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