Atheists Admit Defeat - Video Atheists don't want you to see

[turnorburn]

This is all so simple, the members at 123 forum are the performers complete with clowns juglers
and those that make elephants jump through a hoop. The Atheist on the other hand is an observer nothing more, so carry on this is becoming Barnum & Baily attraction.

 

[dadof10]

Vault, I'll try it one more time.

The OP was "There is no such thing as 'doctrine of atheism', since atheism has no stated propositions."

"There is no such thing" means that IT DOESN'T EXIST. As soon as I posted the "doctrine" from the AA website I proved that there IS a doctrine of atheism, at least to some. There is a group of people who have "codified" their belief, which, according to the definition from Wiki that you posted, satisfies the requirement for the word "doctrine".

The doctrine doesn't have to be held by "most" or "all" people who call themselves "atheists". It doesn't have to be "universal", all it has to do is EXIST to debunk the OP. Whether you or Wavy or anyone else holds those docrtines doesn't matter to the OP. The propositions listed are a codified belief system and therefore qualify as "doctrine".

And what you still do not seem to understand is that document is the doctrine of AA, not atheism.

"There is no such thing as 'doctrine of atheism', since atheism has no stated propositions."

[quote:138fdrfy] That's not a proper analogy. It would have to be "Catholic" and "Catholic". If I claim "there is no such thing as Catholic doctrine", all you have to do is point me to the Catechism. If I responded, "I don't hold all those alleged doctrines, and it doesn't speak for ALL people who call themselves "Catholic", therefore it's not universal and does not count as Catholic doctrine", I don't think you would accept that explanation, and neither do I.

Which was exactly my point. That would make it a doctrine of Catholicism.

That last sentence, if to be used against me, is a strawman. I stated exactly as such earlier. I said that if someone did not follow a Christian doctrine, the argument would not ensue that the particular doctrine is not doctrine anymore, the debate would be if the person is still Christian.

If I do not follow the AA’s doctrine, are you going to say that I am not atheist, or that I do not adhere to the AA doctrine?

That is the determining factor here.

The analogy is proper.

There are atheists with varying doctrines, but the doctrines are no the doctrine or a doctrine of atheism.[/quote:138fdrfy]

I'll give you the last word, since it seems important to you. I will take your advise, though.

Lets drop it.

Do you mean it this time? ;-)

 

[dadof10]

But anyways, this is semantic nonsense.

Yep. 11 pages of semantic nonsense. I'm out.

 

[VaultZero4Me]

Vault, I'll try it one more time.

The OP was "There is no such thing as 'doctrine of atheism', since atheism has no stated propositions."

"There is no such thing" means that IT DOESN'T EXIST. As soon as I posted the "doctrine" from the AA website I proved that there IS a doctrine of atheism, at least to some. There is a group of people who have "codified" their belief, which, according to the definition from Wiki that you posted, satisfies the requirement for the word "doctrine".

The doctrine doesn't have to be held by "most" or "all" people who call themselves "atheists". It doesn't have to be "universal", all it has to do is EXIST to debunk the OP. Whether you or Wavy or anyone else holds those docrtines doesn't matter to the OP. The propositions listed are a codified belief system and therefore qualify as "doctrine".

And what you still do not seem to understand is that document is the doctrine of AA, not atheism.

"There is no such thing as 'doctrine of atheism', since atheism has no stated propositions."

[quote:i6gfgtoj] That's not a proper analogy. It would have to be "Catholic" and "Catholic". If I claim "there is no such thing as Catholic doctrine", all you have to do is point me to the Catechism. If I responded, "I don't hold all those alleged doctrines, and it doesn't speak for ALL people who call themselves "Catholic", therefore it's not universal and does not count as Catholic doctrine", I don't think you would accept that explanation, and neither do I.

Which was exactly my point. That would make it a doctrine of Catholicism.

That last sentence, if to be used against me, is a strawman. I stated exactly as such earlier. I said that if someone did not follow a Christian doctrine, the argument would not ensue that the particular doctrine is not doctrine anymore, the debate would be if the person is still Christian.

If I do not follow the AA’s doctrine, are you going to say that I am not atheist, or that I do not adhere to the AA doctrine?

That is the determining factor here.

The analogy is proper.

There are atheists with varying doctrines, but the doctrines are no the doctrine or a doctrine of atheism.

I'll give you the last word, since it seems important to you. I will take your advise, though.

Lets drop it.

Do you mean it this time? ;-)[/quote:i6gfgtoj]

Yes, because I take the time to respond to your posts, just because I have a strong desire "to get the last word".

I do not understand such childish postings.

 

[turnorburn]

Vault Zero for me says "I do not understand such childish postings"

That is why you'll never know God, you refuse to become as a little child. :smt045

 

[VaultZero4Me]

Vault Zero for me says "I do not understand such childish postings"

That is why you'll never know God, you refuse to become as a little child. :smt045

Which just adds more to my point. ;-)

 

[turnorburn]

Sorry that's right you don't
believe...

 

[VaultZero4Me]

Sorry that's right you don't
believe...

I do not believe.

I am not sure what message you were trying to convey by making a comical cartoon representation of hell, but I do not know many people who find a concept of suffering so light hearted.

 

[turnorburn]

Excellent!! I don't believe in Atheists Nether :

 

[turnorburn]

Sorry that's right you don't
believe...

I do not believe.

I am not sure what message you were trying to convey by making a comical cartoon representation of hell, but I do not know many people who find a concept of suffering so light hearted.

What you worry? your getting soft hearted, and don't give me this jazz you don't believe either.
If I dangled you from the Empire State Building and left you there would you cry out Mummy save me? :smt100

 

[VaultZero4Me]

Sorry that's right you don't
believe...

I do not believe.

I am not sure what message you were trying to convey by making a comical cartoon representation of hell, but I do not know many people who find a concept of suffering so light hearted.

What you worry? your getting soft hearted, and don't give me this jazz you don't believe either.
If I dangled you from the Empire State Building and left you there would you cry out Mummy save me? :smt100

lol you are a borderline sadist I believe.

 

[turnorburn]

See I told you Sadist=Sodomite :smt045

 

[Veritas]

yikes