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Hey Brother Bill, how do you come to the above conclusion? I realize how I worded my replies may not illustrate what I asked as to receiving the Holy Spirit since you believed. To me the moment you believed you were saved. Thanks.
No, I believe the hold over th1bill that has grown to th1b.taylor is still a bit presumptuous. The whole thing is a hold over from when they would intro Cowboy Bill, who died Jan. 1, 1990. Now I'm just a crippled has been that my LORD has seen fit to use in His service... nothing more.
I was spoken to, by Jesus, in November of 1966, the exac6t date is found on the Wall, noting the day of death for Paul Hienen, He spoke seven words that changed my life, from that moment forward.
LOL! No, this stinking cheap chair the VA gave me rubs that truth in every moment of every day. Spiritually, I am vigorous, just as Physically I will be, again, in Heaven. Thank you for the flowers though, really.
That's good enough for me brother; I would certainly never challenge Jesus' words to you.
The strange thing about it, from the natural man's eyes, is what I said to draw the response from Jesus. I was about 2 months short of my 22 year, in age, an Alcoholic, gun toting warrior that had just found my best friend blown into little pieces from an enemy mortar to the chest.That's good enough for me brother; I would certainly never challenge Jesus' words to you.
Like I said, the only claim to fame I really ever had was my love and skill on combat helicopters. Even my dad knew I was not the sharpest blade in the box. He and my Sargent Major in Germany were both with the 2nd of the 7th in WW II and both of them did everything they could to keep me out of Vietnam and my mom had a really tough time keeping my old man sober, especially when I volunteered to remain in country for an additional six months to qualify for 3 compete tours.
With a bit more study you'll discover that no man can do any work for God except God empowers that man or woman and there is no empowerment without without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Your statement is an error that has grown out of the Tongues mean Salvation movement that is, just, not quite true. Tongues is a sign, but only a sign, of the indwelling. There is no work for Christ accomplished without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and, as sad as it is, Jesus will tell all that do works in His name, without the indwelling, to be gone from Him for He never knew them.
Something I've seen more than once in my Christian life is a person who is called to some type of ministry, whether as a full time thing or even just someone who does something voluntarily once in a while, who had the power of the Holy Spirit working in them. There is success and power and they know it comes from the Spirit because they know the positive results had nothing to do with their own wisdom or planning. But after a while they start to forget it's the power of the Spirit working through them and start to think they are doing it. Without realizing it they rely less and less on God's Spirit and more and more on their own wisdom. After a while their "ministry" becomes just a powerless, discouraging shell of what God had in mind, and they don't know why. It's sad to watch that happen to people after the novelty wears off.
Please use this statement above as bible study to show Christians how Satan will come through others and try or steal the word of God. The scriptures teaches us that Jesus cast out over 2,000 demons in one man. This man became a testimony for Jesus to tell others about His goodness and His mercy (Mark 5:1-20 NLT). This man did not have the Holy Spirit in him. Stop putting Jesus in a box! He is Lord Jesus Christ who can do anything to use Christians with or without the Holy Spirit.
Coming directly from the stage to Salvation, that is the number one thing I feared. Growing up in SE Texas I grew with a group of very talented people of whom I and one other had moderate success and I have one cousin that became filthy rich in the Entertainment Industry. All the others and the one friend that preceded my moderate success burnt themselves out and with that failed the course.
No matter where this thread goes I'm not going to debate with this one, like you I find the reason for this thread, a good thing.
