So a third type then, even though you said there were two types on Earth???
You've not presented any Biblical Texts that speak of this third type of person on Earth; a believer in Christ Jesus, once having this testimony in himself that is, then 'returning' to unbelief in this testimony (much less losing his salvation as a result). And again, if you did, it would conflict with 1 John 5:10.
1 John 5:10 (NASB) The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son.
This is the original Text in question that I posted for your comment, which you avoided, yet should address per the rules of this forum with an explanation of how it can be consistent with your 'exbeliever' idea (third type), versus pitting your additions to separate Texts against what's clearly and plainly stated in John's 1st epistle. That is unless you simply prefer to leave your case Biblically weak and logically fallacious as with the other points and questions I've posted to you, which you consistently avoid answering too.
Yet You stated
1 John 5:10 and I agree with your comment above
Yet this verse and I say those who do not believe in the testimony of Christ Jesus (the Son of God) has not believed in this testimony concerning His Son (ever).
Luke 8:13 But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away.
These "have no root" during this time of joy. Yet your hypothetical exbeliever in Christ are those who have root (had the testimony concerning His Son that John speaks of) in himself at one time, yet losses it. That's simply not possible according to 1 John 5:10 nor Jesus' own interpretation of the parable (versus your interpretation):
Matthew 13:21, 23 (LEB) But he does not have a root in himself, but lasts only a little while, and when affliction or persecution happens because of the word, immediately he falls away.
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But what was sown on the good soil—this is the one who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces, this one a hundred times as much, and this one sixty, and this one thirty.”
No wonder the one soil who heard the word yet had "no root" fell away. He was NOT the one who had understanding (testimony) in himself. Please refer to 1 John 5:10 where he is an obvious type 2 who "has not believed"
in the testimony concerning His Son nor had the root in himself. Yes, he believed 'something' "for a while", per the Text. But it sure wasn't a belief with any understanding (nor root), also per the Text.
This Text doesn't support your claims.
Did this generation believe (obey) the testimony of God or did they indeed disobey/disbelieve/rebell "
always" in their heart because they did not know His ways (His testimony)??? [no need to answer]
Hebrews 3:10 Therefore I was angry with this generation, and I said, ‘They always go astray in their heart, and they do not know my ways.’
Once again, this Text does not support your case. Indeed, None do.
1 John 5:9-10 If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for the testimony of God is this, that He has testified concerning His Son. The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son.
