BELIEVE IN WHO?

[josefnospam]

Who do you believe in?
Believe in JESUS CHRIST. So many say they do but deny him by believing in themselves or something they did or said or will do. Time is moving fast toward the coming of our LORD and Saviour. No one knows when but if you continue to believe in yourself in any way, you will be on the side of all the goats, under the wrath of an angry GOD who sees no rightousness but JESUS CHRIST THE LORD and him cruicfied by men.

Warning.................Believe on the LORD and beg him for his mercy and grace, while you still can

T0DAY IS THE DAY OF SALVATION 2nd Cor. 6:2 from Isa. 49:8

This is the LORD and we are in him if he has chosen and given you his spirit.
TRUST IN HIM.................He did not make it possible for men to be saved.
HE SAVED HIS PEOPLE and he will NEVER FAIL.........Thank you Lord for your amazing Grace.

 

[Guest]

He did not make it possible for men to be saved.

No, he did make it possible by dying on the cross. I think what you meant to say was that nobody is worthy to be saved, but he loves us anyways.

 

[josefnospam]

Absolutly not,. God does not love everone. He loves and died for his elected people God hates sin and all those who engage in it. He did not make it possible, he succeded in saving all he died for. What kind of God is he if he's just waiting around hoping you will let him help you. HE is GOD almighty and he saved his people. He is not a gentleman or has done all he Can and now its up to you. He chose a certain people, came to earth as a man, died for and redemmed all he came to save. Thank God for his mercy grace and love or we would all end up lost forever. What a wonderfull and GREAT GOD he is. This is really not open for debate as you are either his or you are not and there is no other way. You cannot please GOD. Only CHRIST can. Thank you LORD for you GRACE.

 

[josefnospam]

It is not a matter of who is worthy. NONE are or ever will be. It is a matter of did he choose you? I thank God daily he included me and all his precious blood bought people and the rest will perish because they don't believe him. Trust him and his finished works, not your self or anyone else. Trust in JESUS CHRIST the Lord and in him alone.

 

[Guest]

God does not love everone.

 

[Doulos Iesou]

It's easy to be of good cheer because you were arbitrarily selected from the mass of sinners to be saved. Those other people, by nature have no other CHOICE (they could not have done otherwise) but to sin and reject Jesus and thus go into everlasting torture. That men and women, created in the image of God and of such great worth as endowed by God that to end one of their lives is to be worthy of death, yet he would consign and ordain from before the foundations of the world that he would actively choose not to draw, love, save, or even give the ability in any small way for these people to believe.

If we were to model this kind of love that the Calvinist's view of God has what would it look like? Would we only actively love another individual so long as it led to my own praise and happiness? Would I pick and choose who to love and who to actively harden and reject? Would I manipulate and coerce people to fulfill only what I want to see done?

You see Calvinists take verses like Christ saying that he laid his life down for his sheep, or that he gave himself for the Church to then prove limited atonement, "look," they'll say, "Christ didn't die for the goats he died only for the sheep." Yet we can find verses that also say that Christ died specifically for Paul, yet no one goes around saying Jesus died only for Paul. Calvinists look at the important doctrine that Christ did in fact lay down his life for his Church, that he died for OUR sins, but they do not keep in mind all of Scripture.

and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. 1 John 2:2(NASB)

Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for the sins of believers, yes of course! But, also for the entire world! He hasn't propitiated (verb) all the sins of believers or the whole world, but is the propitiation (noun) being the means of that verb by virtue of what we learned in the previous chapter. That if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

A helpful analogy.

Imagine that I gave you a gift card for a car wash that for the rest of your life every single car wash you would ever need would have been paid for. Yet, you believe because your car wash has been paid for that you no longer need to wash your car. For you see, unless you utilize and redeem that car wash gift card by applying it in washing your car, it will go unused, neglected. How shall we escape if we NEGLECT so great a salvation, says the author of Hebrews.

Hope this helps,
Servant of Jesus

 

[Deborah13]

Absolutly not,. God does not love everone.

If God does not love everyone, then He is asking me to do something that I am not capable of doing on my own. I can't love my enemy on my own, I'm just not that good. But I see that Jesus loved me, even when I was His enemy. So He sets the example and it is through the power of His love that I can do this.
He says to pray for our enemies. What of that?

Example - Does God say He hates people who get a divorce? No. He says He hates divorce.
Hate the sin not the sinner.
God doesn't ask us to do things in holiness that He doesn't do Himself.

He's not like a father who tells his son don't get in fist fights and then does it himself.
Nor is He like a father who tells his son to love and respect his mother but the he doesn't.

 

[Atonement]

Absolutly not,. God does not love everone.

If God does not love everyone, then He is asking me to do something that I am not capable of doing on my own. I can't love my enemy on my own, I'm just not that good. But I see that Jesus loved me, even when I was His enemy. So He sets the example and it is through the power of His love that I can do this.
He says to pray for our enemies. What of that?

Example - Does God say He hates people who get a divorce? No. He says He hates divorce.
Hate the sin not the sinner.
God doesn't ask us to do things in holiness that He doesn't do Himself.

He's not like a father who tells his son don't get in fist fights and then does it himself.
Nor is He like a father who tells his son to love and respect his mother but the he doesn't.

Amen..

Scriptures may need to be provided from josefnospam to give us a some sort of understanding on why he stands on this position that God does not love everyone?