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It's like I said, they leave words, verses in where they want and delete them elsewhere. These words, verses below in bold type are explained away in the footnotes or missing altogether in your NIV..

John 16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Ephesians 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Ephesians 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Is the NIV afraid of satan?)

Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Luke 11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Should I go on.? This doesn't nearly represent the many omissions that occur in the NIV. they've corrupted everything from the Ascension in John 16:16 to the Lords Prayer in Luke 11:2

1 Corinthians 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
 
Matt.24:28 NIV
Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

KJV
For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

The original greek uses the word 'eagle'.

The term vulture completely changes the scripture to mean just the opposite of what it should mean. By nature an eagle and a vulture are viewed very differently.

This is the verse that caused my NIV to fall from grace..but I still use it occassionally.
 
When i was a baptist, the kids at the church were so vehemntly against the NIV that I couldnt bring it to church anymore or they would set fire to it. KJV was the only one i could use. funny thing is, they didnt know what it was saying, i didnt know what it was saying, and I fell from the baptist fellowship. But i just thought I would share the story. Thats why i dont use NIV. Bad experience from childhood.
 
Here's more proof positive of this satanic masterpiece. Check into it yourself.

http://www.nivexposed.faithweb.com/index.html

The NIV doesn't even know who killed Goliath!! Seems that was David I recall.

2 Samuel 21:19 (KJV) And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

(NIV) In another battle with the Philistines at Gob, Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod.
 
Wow D, I've run across some errant passages before, but never THIS one. :o

I will stick to the so-called "newer" Textus Receptus. Trust me... older isn't always better; especially when trying to get up out of bed in the morning. :lol: :lol:
 
D46 said:
Here's more proof positive of this satanic masterpiece. Check into it yourself.

http://www.nivexposed.faithweb.com/index.html

The NIV doesn't even know who killed Goliath!! Seems that was David I recall.

2 Samuel 21:19 (KJV) And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

(NIV) In another battle with the Philistines at Gob, Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod.

No. That is one of many copyist errors. In the KJV, the translators inserted the words, "the brother of" Goliath the Gittite. They were not in the original manuscript there. I have a KJV family bible that shows all our inserted words in italics. The reason the KJV translators knew to insert those words is because of 1 Chr 20:5.
 
so....................can we have the RSV here? pleeeeeese? :D
 
phatcatholic said:
so....................can we have the RSV here? pleeeeeese? :D
Look at where the verse link takes you. If Biblegateway doesn't have it, we can't possibably give you the option. Sorry.

antitox, I guess the modern day translators aren't familiar with cross referencing, heh. 8-) You must admit, that really is a gross error. :o

If one wants to see it in a literal translation, here you are:

19 And again the battle was in Gob with the Philistines, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite struck one of Goliath the Gittite, and the wood of his spear was like a weaver's beam. (LITV)

19And the battle is again in Gob with the Philistines, and Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim, the Beth-Lehemite, smiteth [a brother of] Goliath the Gittite, and the wood of his spear [is] like a beam of weavers. (YLT)
 
There's more than one place where the NIV just blatantly lies. Take for instance another example.

The NIV perverts Mark 1:2,3 into a LIE! The NIV reads "It is written in Isaiah the prophet: I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way-a voice of one calling in the desert, Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him." It is NOT written in Isaiah! "I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way" - is found in Malachi 3:1! The King James correctly reads: "As it is written in the PROPHETS, . . ." A better translation! Easier to read - BUY A LIE THEN!

Another place where distortions are written...

Isaiah 14:14 reveals Satan's grandest desire, "I will be like the most High." And with a little subtil perversion - the NIV in Isaiah 14:12 grants Satan's wish!
Isaiah14:12: The KJB reads, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER, son of the morning!. . ." The NIV PERversion reads, "How you have fallen from heaven, O MORNING STAR, son of the dawn. . ." The NIV change "Lucifer" to "MORNING STAR". Only once is Lucifer mentioned in the bible and the NIV rips it out...why?

BUT WAIT. . . I thought the Lord Jesus Christ was the MORNING STAR?

Doesn't Revelation 22:16 say, "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and MORNING STAR".

The NIV CLEARY AND BLATANTLY makes LUCIFER -- The Lord Jesus Christ! Is that not blaspheny and corruption?! And Christians claim the NIV is a "better translation"!

Isaiah 14:15: The King James Bible condemns Lucifer to hell: "Yet thou shalt be brought down to HELL . . ." The NIV does NOT condemn Lucifer to HELL! The NIV reads, "But you are brought down to the GRAVE. . ." We all go to the GRAVE! Why doesn't the NIV want Satan in hell?

The NIV "Taketh Away" 64,576 words and over 17 verses. No wonder is so much thinner than the KJB.The NIV removes major portions of at least 147 verses! That more than 8% of God's word. May as well remove 30 books of the bible as that is the equivalent.
 
I will keep on using my NIV because I trust it. :)

If you prefer to be so passionate about your KJV, please continue to read it.
 
destiny said:
Anybody remember when the NIV was going to come out with a 'gender neutral' version?
That sould tell us something.

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?Id=12625
Now that is just plain crazy, thank you for that destiny. That is one of the most stupid thing that they ever could do, that really confirms it. And the only reason that I won't throw my NIV away is for comparison reasons.
 
Lewis W said:
destiny said:
Anybody remember when the NIV was going to come out with a 'gender neutral' version?
That sould tell us something.

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?Id=12625
Now that is just plain crazy, thank you for that destiny. That is one of the most stupid thing that they ever could do, that really confirms it. And the only reason that I won't throw my NIV away is for comparison reasons.
If you throw your NIV away, it will be in the same location as mine is! :D
 
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I just got it last week. I think it's a great translation and great foot notes! Besides, it's already highlighted so you'll look like you've done all your study front to back! LOL :bday:
 
I posted this very, very stupid translation on this board about 5 or 6 months ago. It is the most stupid translation that they could come up with. For those who did not read it, here some of it is.


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A brand-new translation of the Bible – praised by Britain's archbishop of Canterbury, that nation’s senior Christian voice – flatly contradicts traditional core Christian beliefs on sex and morality.

Titled "Good as New," the new Bible is translated by former Baptist minister John Henson for the "One" organization, to produce what the group calls a "new, fresh and adventurous" translation of the Christian scriptures.


Archbishop Rowan Williams

The 104th archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams – leader of the Church of England – describes it is a book of "extraordinary power," but admitted many would be startled by its content.

"Instead of condemning fornicators, adulterers and 'abusers of themselves with mankind'," says Ruth Gledhill, the London Times religious affairs correspondent, "the new version of his first letter to Corinth has St. Paul advising Christians not to go without sex for too long in case they get 'frustrated.'"

"The new version, which Dr. Williams says he hopes will spread 'in epidemic profusion through religious and irreligious alike', turns St. Paul's strictures against fornication on their head," adds the Times.

The One organization that produced the new Bible translation is dedicated to "establish[ing] peace, justice, dignity and rights for all." It is also focused on "sustainable use of the earth's resources," challenging "oppression, injustice, exclusion and discrimination" as well as accepting "one another, valuing their diversity and experience."

According to Ekklesia, a London-based "theological think tank" that supports the "One" translation:

The translation is pioneering in its accessibility, and changes the original Greek and Hebrew nomenclature into modern nicknames. St. Peter becomes "Rocky," Mary Magdalene becomes "Maggie," Aaron becomes "Ron," Andronicus becomes "Andy" and Barabbas becomes "Barry."

In keeping with the times, translator Henson deftly translates "demon possession" as "mental illness" and "Son of Man," the expression Jesus frequently used to describe himself, as "the Complete Person." In addition, parables are rendered as "riddles," baptize is to "dip" in water, salvation becomes "healing" or "completeness" and Heaven becomes "the world beyond time and space."

Here's how Williams, the top Anglican archbishop, describes the new Bible: "Instead of being taken into a specialized religious frame of reference – as happens even with the most conscientious of formal modern translations – and being given a gospel addressed to specialized concerns … we have here a vehicle for thinking and worshipping that is fully earthed, recognizably about our humanity."

In addition, notes Ekklesia, the archbishop praises Henson's translation for eliminating "the stale, the technical, the unconsciously exclusive words and policies" in other translations.

Here, according to the London Times, are a few sample passages:

Mark 1:4

Authorized version: "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins."

New: "John, nicknamed 'The Dipper,' was 'The Voice.' He was in the desert, inviting people to be dipped, to show they were determined to change their ways and wanted to be forgiven."

Mark 1:10-11

Authorized version: "And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him. And there came a voice from the heaven saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

New: "As he was climbing up the bank again, the sun shone through a gap in the clouds. At the same time a pigeon flew down and perched on him. Jesus took this as a sign that God's spirit was with him. A voice from overhead was heard saying, 'That's my boy! You're doing fine!'"

Matthew 23:25

Authorized version: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!"

New version: "Take a running jump, Holy Joes, humbugs!"

Matthew 26:69-70

Authorized version: "Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, 'Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee.' But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest."

New: "Meanwhile Rocky was still sitting in the courtyard. A woman came up to him and said: 'Haven't I seen you with Jesus, the hero from Galilee?" Rocky shook his head and said: 'I don't know what the hell you're talking about!'"

1 Corinthians 7:1-2

KJV: "Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: [It is] good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

New: "Some of you think the best way to cope with sex is for men and women to keep right away from each other. That is more likely to lead to sexual offences. My advice is for everyone to have a regular partner."

1 Corinthians 7:8-7

KJV: "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn."

New: "If you know you have strong needs, get yourself a partner. Better than being frustrated."
 
Just when you think it can't get any worse. :roll: Rocky...I guess Jerimiah would be Jerry and Isaiah would be Izzy in that case. People that do this kind of slandering ought to be confined to the rack and stretched a few inches!! :-?
 
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