Bible Study Biblical inerrancy - even the talking donkey?

[Kmaxb]

Did you read my post?

How did Moses know what Abraham’s wife Sarah said within herself, hundreds of years in the past?

How did Moses know the particular details of the Tabernacle that is in heaven, so he could follow the exact details in building the Tabernacle in the wilderness?

The Lord spoke to him, and thus inspired him to make a record of each and every detail.

Yep! I read it couple times and thought it was well said. You were referring to Biblical authors though, I was referring in my post to early church fathers, post resurrection. And I would expand that to the various Catholic leaders leading up to the reforms of Martin Luther. Were the decisions made over those several centuries to remove various books from the Bible inspired in the same way God inspired every word written by the original biblical authors?

 

[hawkman]

By the way, I don't actually have a strong opinion either way on whether or not Job is historical.

Besides the Book of James we have more references to Job .
Ezekiel CH 14 , the words of a prophet here. Job was a real person otherwise this would not have been said of him .
12The word of the LORD came again to me, saying,

13Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:

14Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.

Not part of the cannon but in the book of Jasher CH 66 .
15 And an officer, one of the king's counsellors, whose name was Job, from Mesopotamia, in the land of Uz, answered the king, saying,
16 If it please the king, let him hear the counsel of his servant; and the king said unto him, Speak.
17 And Job spoke before the king, the princes, and before all the elders of Egypt, saying,

 

[Kmaxb]

Besides the Book of James we have more references to Job .
Ezekiel CH 14 , the words of a prophet here. Job was a real person otherwise this would not have been said of him .
12The word of the LORD came again to me, saying,

13Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:

14Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.

Not part of the cannon but in the book of Jasher CH 66 .
15 And an officer, one of the king's counsellors, whose name was Job, from Mesopotamia, in the land of Uz, answered the king, saying,
16 If it please the king, let him hear the counsel of his servant; and the king said unto him, Speak.
17 And Job spoke before the king, the princes, and before all the elders of Egypt, saying,

A very strong argument!

 

[Hidden In Him]

James could also make reference to the prodigal son, but that wouldn't make the prodigal son historical would it?

Rarely.... I'm trying to think.... almost never did the apostles make reference to the parables. Writers like Jude especially - also Peter, also Paul - would make reference to Old Testament stories and allegories from Jewish traditions, but the parables rarely featured.

By the way, I don't actually have a strong opinion either way on whether or not Job is historical. To me both arguments make some pretty good points.

If you take the position that Job was not a historical figure, you then have to assume that James, leader of the church in Jerusalem until his death, was misguided in his beliefs and uninformed about the true meaning of scripture. Any "scholar" who should take this position is the one doing the misleading. Modern scholars who place themselves above the authority of New Testament writers assume way too much about themselves.

 

[JLB]

I was referring in my post to early church fathers, post resurrection.

If you mean church fathers as in those who wrote scripture then it God’s word.

If you mean Catholic writings that is after scripture then I don’t trust it because it’s just the writings and doctrine of man.