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Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit

I am also convinced that this specific act of ‘blasphemy of the Holy Spirit’ cannot be committed since Jesus died.


Is He dead?

Did He die?

The difference was that Jesus was then in the flesh as man. He was made a little lower than the angels. He did not use His own authority, but the authority given of His Father by the Holy Spirit.

He is now risen far above the angels and all of creation. He is now Lord of Lords, and King of kings.

The scripture clearly says what this specific unforgivable sin was. You may have faith in your views and opinions, but I will stick with what God has said.
 
I am also convinced that this specific act of ‘blasphemy of the Holy Spirit’ cannot be committed since Jesus died.


Is He dead?

Did He die?

The difference was that Jesus was then in the flesh as man. He was made a little lower than the angels. He did not use His own authority, but the authority given of His Father by the Holy Spirit.

He is now risen far above the angels and all of creation. He is now Lord of Lords, and King of kings.

The scripture clearly says what this specific unforgivable sin was. You may have faith in your views and opinions, but I will stick with what God has said.
Did not intend to offend, but it just sounded if you made the point based upon the death of the Lord, like He had past into a place where He did not exist? I think even your own scripture "He is now Lord of Lord and King of kings" would suggest that He is even More alive now, than He was when He was in the body? Your point just does not make biblical sense to me? Maybe you could explain how it was a "unforgivable sin" then when He was a man, but now that He is Lord of Lords, its not as bad?
 
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Why is the Sabbath commandment the sum total of Christianity to you? Why do you persist in destroying people over this Sabbath thing?

When the Sabbath becomes more important to a person than how they treat people they are deceived and bring their own salvation into doubt. It's what we used to call 'having a spirit of religiosity'. Basically, the sin of the Pharisees. Law keepers on the outside, but disobedient on the inside. Whitewashed tombs who look good on the outside but who have no life inside of them. Every Christian has the responsibility to prove to themselves and others that they are not that. Sabbath keeping, like circumcision, proves nothing, and is nothing. What counts is faith expressing itself in love. Wake up before it's too late.

Wrong on both suggestions! (?)

'i' for one Keep the Lord's Commandments because of Love to & for Him. Matt. 5:24
[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

--Elijah

PS: But what does that have to with the Sin against the Holy Spirit??

You tell me. You brought it up.

(Did you really intend to use Matthew 5:24 to make your point? It's supports what I said. Mark 12:33 NIV, Matthew 12:7 NIV)
 
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Why is the Sabbath commandment the sum total of Christianity to you? Why do you persist in destroying people over this Sabbath thing?

When the Sabbath becomes more important to a person than how they treat people they are deceived and bring their own salvation into doubt. It's what we used to call 'having a spirit of religiosity'. Basically, the sin of the Pharisees. Law keepers on the outside, but disobedient on the inside. Whitewashed tombs who look good on the outside but who have no life inside of them. Every Christian has the responsibility to prove to themselves and others that they are not that. Sabbath keeping, like circumcision, proves nothing, and is nothing. What counts is faith expressing itself in love. Wake up before it's too late.

Wrong on both suggestions! (?)

'i' for one Keep the Lord's Commandments because of Love to & for Him. Matt. 5:24
[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

--Elijah

PS: But what does that have to with the Sin against the Holy Spirit??

You tell me. You brought it up.

(Did you really mean to use Matthew 24:5 to make your point? It's supports what I said. Mark 12:33 NIV, Matthew 12:7 NIV)


Surely the verse fits the person of the post, one way or the other? regardless even if it is the wrong [number] that uninspired men put there.

But WHAT has that got to do with the Sin against the Holey Ghost??

--Elijah
 
Touchy subject I see. I have a pretty good handle on this now having have meditated on it and do find myself agreeing with what Jethro has said for it is pretty easy to see that we are saved by grace through faith...in the shed blood of Jesus Christ. No one come unto the father except through Jesus Christ. Forgiveness come through Jesus and the blood he shed.

(Jethro)
You can be wrong about a lot of things and still be saved. Forgiveness through Jesus Christ is not one of them. Get that wrong--like the Jews did--and you reject the very forgiveness through which a person is saved. There is no forgiveness for rejecting the message of forgiveness God has sent into the world by his Holy Spirit.]

This is basic stuff right here and there should be no argument about this.
Now then, the Holy Spirit of our Lord has been sent into the world to give testimony of our Lord Jesus and He perform miracles and gives enlightenment and such, all which bear testimony of Jesus. Still with me? Good. So when the Holy Spirit gives such testimony or performs miracles...and men reject this tesimony, or attribute it to Satan (satan) lol, this not only rejects Jesus and his forgivness but insults the Holy Spirit, which scripture says is unpardonable.

Our God and Lord is rich with mercy and grace and will give freely to all for anything except (Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit) Scripture even says that such against the Son of Man (Jesus) is forgivable, but not the Holy Spirit...Why? Well, we don't know. But we know it is so.

To speak rejection to or about Jesus is forgivable if one repents of same. But not the Holy Spirit! It says so! This has nothing to do with not keeping the Sabbath, or that Jesus died while he was on earth, our Lord is rich with mercy and will forgive almost anything. It says that one can blaspheme Jesus and be forgiven so it is moot if He is alive on earth or not. The unforgivable sin is one against the Holy Spirit. Scripture is clear on this.

Jack, you made a good post, but I am unclear on why you think that blaspheming the HS is forgivable if one repents and does not continue to do it...is there scripture to back up this point of yours?
They way it reads to me, is it reads "Unforgivable" and not "Unforgivable until one repents", Please expound on your point.
 
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There can be no sin committed unless violation of light occurs. Only the Holy Spirit can reveal the word as the teacher. Even simple things like "Behold all that he has is in your power" seems simple, but taking a scripture in a private interpretation without light from the Holy Spirit to know what to compare can leave someone to believe that God sends murderers to kill the children of those that obey him.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was attributed to man saying that the Holy Spirit is doing devils work by casting out their own. This is what triggered Jesus to make this remark and he also said the Kingdom of Hell and Kingdom of God are not working for one another. In other words, God is not by the power of the Holy Spirit murdering people for some mysterious purpose, or giving cancer to anyone so they may draw closer to him. That would be blasphemy of the Holy Spirit according to the example of Jesus, yet you hear it all the time as God gets the blame for everything. Through ignorance, God does not hold the person accountable.

In Hebrews 6 and 10, someone that knows better, knows what is evil and what is good, has seen the goodness and power of the Holy Spirit decided they no longer want the Lord (Turning back to Judaism in this case) then it would be impossible for you or I to convince that person to repent and come back. They know full well what they have given up, and would not even ask for forgiveness.

How the Sabbath was mentioned in all this is beyond understanding. Every day, everything you do should be with the Lord in mind. Not just a day to pick. We are led by the Spirit of God, and if the Spirit of God says rest, we obey and rest. Our standards should be a bit higher than just being concerned about a special day.

Mike.
 
Touchy subject I see.
...and I always wonder why. I guess because miraculous signs are involved. Mention anything to do with those and you usually raise people's ire on both sides of the issue--those who are sure they don't happen, and those who are sure they do.



So when the Holy Spirit gives such testimony or performs miracles...and men reject this tesimony, or attribute it to Satan (satan) lol, this not only rejects Jesus and his forgivness but insults the Holy Spirit, which scripture says is unpardonable.
Yes. Which John says is calling the Holy Spirit a liar. And unpardonable because the testimony being called a lie is the message of God's pardon.



Scripture even says that such against the Son of Man (Jesus) is forgivable, but not the Holy Spirit...Why? Well, we don't know. But we know it is so.
I think it's because everything is known to be truth by the Holy Spirit. He is THE convicter of truth. Nobody believes outside of the ministry of the Holy Spirit. That's his job.


To speak rejection to or about Jesus is forgivable if one repents of same. But not the Holy Spirit! It says so!
At this point in my thinking I don't see any reason why a person could not stop calling the message of the gospel a lie after they've been shown by the Holy Spirit that it really is true. At least up to the point God turns them over to that decision and stops speaking to them through the Holy Spirit.

But maybe by the time you're calling the Holy Spirit's message a lie (and, thus, calling Him a liar), even though you know without a doubt through the convicting power of the Holy Spirit that it really is true, you've already been turned over to that unbelief(?). I don't know.
 
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In other words, God is not by the power of the Holy Spirit murdering people for some mysterious purpose, or giving cancer to anyone so they may draw closer to him. That would be blasphemy of the Holy Spirit according to the example of Jesus, yet you hear it all the time as God gets the blame for everything. Through ignorance, God does not hold the person accountable.
The key being ignorance. That's why God can overlook it. Not so with knowing the truth about forgiveness through Christ, but calling it a lie anyway just because that person doesn't want to accept it.


In Hebrews 6 and 10, someone that knows better, knows what is evil and what is good, has seen the goodness and power of the Holy Spirit decided they no longer want the Lord (Turning back to Judaism in this case) then it would be impossible for you or I to convince that person to repent and come back. They know full well what they have given up, and would not even ask for forgiveness.
To me this is different because the person responded and then rejected the truth later. Different because there really is no opportunity for repentance available to the person who does that. I see the blasphemy Jesus is talking about as being that of unbelievers who have never moved toward the gospel in any way shape or form, but who can just stop not believing and be accepted by God (I think).
 
There can be no sin committed unless violation of light occurs. Only the Holy Spirit can reveal the word as the teacher. Even simple things like "Behold all that he has is in your power" seems simple, but taking a scripture in a private interpretation without light from the Holy Spirit to know what to compare can leave someone to believe that God sends murderers to kill the children of those that obey him.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was attributed to man saying that the Holy Spirit is doing devils work by casting out their own. This is what triggered Jesus to make this remark and he also said the Kingdom of Hell and Kingdom of God are not working for one another. In other words, God is not by the power of the Holy Spirit murdering people for some mysterious purpose, or giving cancer to anyone so they may draw closer to him. That would be blasphemy of the Holy Spirit according to the example of Jesus, yet you hear it all the time as God gets the blame for everything. Through ignorance, God does not hold the person accountable.

In Hebrews 6 and 10, someone that knows better, knows what is evil and what is good, has seen the goodness and power of the Holy Spirit decided they no longer want the Lord (Turning back to Judaism in this case) then it would be impossible for you or I to convince that person to repent and come back. They know full well what they have given up, and would not even ask for forgiveness.

How the Sabbath was mentioned in all this is beyond understanding. Every day, everything you do should be with the Lord in mind. Not just a day to pick. We are led by the Spirit of God, and if the Spirit of God says rest, we obey and rest. Our standards should be a bit higher than just being concerned about a special day.

Mike.
Good post and good points Mike.
 
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
(Mar 16:16)

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
(Mar 16:16)


Jethro Bodine
To me this is different because the person responded and then rejected the truth later. Different because there really is no opportunity for repentance available to the person who does that. I see the blasphemy Jesus is talking about as being that of unbelievers who have never moved toward the gospel in any way shape or form, but who can just stop not believing and be accepted by God (I think).

Thank you Jethro. When Jesus was accused of using demonic power to cast out devils, this prompted Him to warn us about speaking against the Holy Spirit. Jesus told us that Satan is not casting out Satan. Satan is not healing anyone. Satan is not helping anyone, but Killing them, stealing from them, and destroying them. Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil in our lives.

Jesus said the Holy Spirit is our comforter, helper, teacher, and shows us things to come. The Holy Spirit is the power of God to heal, to speak anointed words that pierce hearts, to reprove the Word of sin, to give man ability that man would not have on his own. "I can do all things through Christ "The anointing" which strengthens me.

We are also sealed unto the day of redemption by the Holy Spirit. Any sin committed would have to say that God's power was being used as evil against mankind. You would have to speak against the Holy Spirit, knowing what you were saying. This is why Jesus gave us the Kingdoms are not divided lesson, and binding the strong man.

Someone not even saved, would not be sealed and could not be unsealed. (Eph 4:30)

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

(Joh 3:18)

Jesus said the World does not even know the Spirit of Truth. You can't speak against someone you don't even know exist. So not making Jesus your Lord, would not be committing Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
(Mat 12:27)

Remember what prompted Jesus to warn against Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Jesus said if I am using evil, demonic power to cast out devils, then what power do your own exorcist use to cast them out? If your own are not tied into demonic power and using it to do good. Then your speaking against the power I use will be judged against you.

So the moral of the story is. Never blame God for anything that goes wrong in your life. Never say God caused this tragedy for some greater purpose. That is confusing the Kingdoms, and what prompted Jesus to warn about speaking against the Holy Spirit being evil.

Mike.



The sin the unsaved commit is not believing on the only begotten Son of God. Anyone that has not made Jesus Lord, still has those hand written ordinances against them as they are not blotted out. (Acts 3:19) (Col 2:14)
 
Jack, you made a good post, but I am unclear on why you think that blaspheming the HS is forgivable if one repents and does not continue to do it...is there scripture to back up this point of yours?
They way it reads to me, is it reads "Unforgivable" and not "Unforgivable until one repents", Please expound on your point.

Thanks Edward.

I think its forgivable or pardonable because of what it is.

And what it is, is a process of continuing to attribute the supernatural work of the Lord Jesus to the power of Satan, so that saving faith in Jesus as Savior therefore becomes impossible.

In my view, this is why the "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" is called the "Unpardonable Sin", its unpardonable because there is no other possible way for a man to be saved other than to believe in Jesus as their Savior.

This view is based upon the assumption that my interpretation of Mark 3:22-30 in my post 16 is the correct interpretation.

If I am correct that the teachers of the law were in the process of continuing to attribute the miracles performed by the Lord Jesus to the power of Satan, which miracles were designed by God to help them believe, then had they stopped doing that, they could have then went on to believe in Him as their Savior.

I don't think the text of either Mark 3:22-30 or Matthew 12:31-32 demands we interpret the "blasphemy" of attributing the miracles of Jesus to the power of Satan, as a one time act that locks a man down forever in an unpardonable state of sin.

I think both passages will permit the "ongoing process of continuing to do that" interpretation.

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Mark 3: 29-30
29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy
Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.â€

30 He said this because they were saying, “He has an evil spirit"

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In the Mark 3 passage just above (and in the Matthew 12 passage also) the Holy Spirit was clearly attempting to make converts to Christ, and it seems clear He was attempting to use Christ's supernatural miracles as a means of legitimizing the gospel message of the Lord Jesus, but the teachers of the law were rejecting the evidences and attributing the evidences to the power of Satan, so that no "forgiveness" and no "pardons" could possibly take place.

I interpret them doing that as an on-going continuing process which they could have stopped doing.

You appear to interpret them doing that as a one time act that locked them down forever in a state of unpardonability.

We may have to wait and ask Saint Peter which one of us is correct, ha.

PS
The "one time act" interpretation of the Mark 3 and Matt 12 passages strikes my mind as inharmonious with God's general extentions of Mercy and Grace to human beings as revealed in the New Testament. In light of this, it seems rather odd to me that a man who commits a "one-time-sin" is forever locked out of receiving Mercy and Grace. (But I will quickly admit that what I just wrote is not an argument /grin)

PSS
Its not a vital distinction anyway because I assume we both agree that all of God people will come to Him. "All that the Father gives Me, will come to Me.__Jesus in John 6:37

"For you granted him authority over all people<sup class="crossreference" value='(D)'></sup> that he might give eternal life<sup class="crossreference" value='(E)'></sup> to all those you have given him.<sup class="crossreference" value='(F)'></sup>"__Jesus in John 17:2


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Very interesting Read Jack.

If Jesus used the power of God to enforce the Word of God, then Jesus would be who He said he was. The Saviour of the World. Therefore to attack His character and disclaim who He said He was and where He came from. You would also attack the source of the Power He used. To discredit someone, you start at the root of their power source and authority. No question in my mind this is not what they were trying to attempt to do since the miracles were not in question. Who Jesus said he was, was in question.

On the surface it appears that by not accepting Jesus Lord and Saviour, then in effect you commit the unpardonable sin and are damned, never receiving the seal of the Holy Spirit.

The problem is that Jesus never said the sin was unpardonable, and not being forgiven would be based on violation of light you personally have. Not believing on Jesus after hearing is what caused damnation. Nothing mentioned about speaking against the Holy Spirit, but not accepting Jesus.

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

(Mar 3:29)

The danger comes from being ignorant of what your saying, the eternal damnation comes by actively taking a stance against. Hence the warnings in Heb 6 and 10.

Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
(Jas 4:17)

In order to commit that one sin, one would have to know something. Anything that is done without faith is sin. To have faith, you need to know.

To blasphemy against, or speak against means to take a position opposite of the Work of the Holy Spirit. One has to speak evil of the Holy Spirit in opposition against Him. A person would have to know who the Holy Spirit was, and know exactly that they were taking sides against. Hence Jesus comment about the power they use to cast out evil spirits is a judge against them if He used demonic power.

A person not even saved would have no idea who the Holy Spirit was. Jesus said the World does not even know Him. So, the sin they can commit would be to not receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour. There is no forgiveness in this case because none was asked for. You have to be punished for all you have done without the blood covering you.

The mistake comes in thinking that there is only one thing a person can do to never be forgiven. The Bible never mentions that their is only one thing. The term unpardonable sin has sort of just stuck with us, but we need to examine the Word and look past terms that have been with us for a long time.

Mike.
 
I hear what you guys are saying, and agree in large part with your biblical logic, but I think the warning is deeper and it should not be far removed from its clear reading in the scriptures. The simple truth is these people where calling a work of the Holy Spirit, an act of satans power. This is very common in the world and the chruch today, I suggest that much study has been made by many to make the warning seem less clear in its purpose and intention than what the clear reading of the scriptures suggest? Having said that, I hope I am wrong because many are in big trouble on judgment day, if the scripture is taken as it is written.
 
George Muller:
The simple truth is these people where calling a work of the Holy Spirit, an act of satans power. This is very common in the world and the chruch today,

Very interesting. In the exact context that prompted Jesus to mention this was saying that the Holy Spirit is evil and connected with evil. Jesus gave the lecture about the two Kingdoms are not working for one another. Satan's Kingdom murders, destroys, and steals from people. God's Kingdom does not.

George Muller:
I suggest that much study has been made by many to make the warning seem less clear in its purpose and intention than what the clear reading of the scriptures suggest?

One only studies with the foundation of knowledge which they already believe to be true. (Doctrine) So examination of what Jesus actually said and what prompted him to say it could be clouded by foundation that seems unrelated. For example one sin is only unpardonable, and scripture never mentions that. A set belief only looking for one thing with no scripture support. John said if you see a brother that has committed a sin unto death, then don't pray for him. To count the blood covenant a unholy thing (Heb 10) would be one of those sins after you know the truth. John then stated, "Stay away from idols little children" Once again to leave God after knowing the power of your redemption would not be forgiven.

A doctrine that can't fathom Jesus actually meant contributing satanic work to the power of God is the God is Sovereign Doctrine. Sovereign is not in scriptures and means God does what He wants, to Who He wants, and when He wants, despite breaking His own scripture.
How's it possible for a 14 year old child that had been murdered be God taking them home for evil to come or some mysterious will that works out for some greater good? If that was the will of God, then the one that murdered the child would also have to be in the perfect will of God. You find Christians don't think like this at home, it's only in church and bible discussions they say these things. At home that child murderer is evil, at church it becomes God's mysterious will.

To say God had his hand in the death of the child is saying the power He used is evil, or blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. This was Jesus warning and hence the lecture about the two kingdoms.

Look at Job. Does love send a crazed, disobedient angel to murder the children of a man that feared and obey God? Many believe God did just that with "Behold, all that Job has is in your power." taking one verse for a private interpretation. Does love really do that though? Why the rest of the Bible everyone that obeyed God had been blessed? Not Job though. Because of no apparent wrong Job had done, the God is Sovereign doctrine interprets the scripture for many. As if God can be tempted with evil.

Mike.
 
The simple truth is these people where calling a work of the Holy Spirit, an act of satans power.
...For the purpose of discrediting the gospel message that Jesus is the Christ. That, IMO, is the point Christ is driving at.



This is very common in the world and the chruch today...
Calling miracles of the Spirit satanic, yes, but what is not common in the church today is doing that for the purpose of destroying the gospel message that Jesus is the Christ. That is the important point in all this.

It doesn't have as much to do with believing in miracles, or not, as it does with rejecting the testimony of the Spirit in the world today concerning the Christ. People in the church who question the validity of miracles today aren't serving an agenda of discrediting Christ and the gospel as the Pharisees were. You can be wrong about what really is and isn't of the Spirit. What you can't be wrong about is knowing something is of the Spirit and hearing the message God is communicating to you through the Spirit and then rejecting it as a lie because you do not want the gospel of salvation through Jesus Christ.


...I suggest that much study has been made by many to make the warning seem less clear in its purpose and intention than what the clear reading of the scriptures suggest?
I agree, but maybe not in the way you are saying. The missed point in all this is the matter of unbelievers and apostates rejecting the gospel message that has been clearly made known to them through a demonstration of power, not that we in the church have a hard time discerning what really is a miracle of God and what is not, which IMO is not a damnable offense. Much less unforgivable.


Having said that, I hope I am wrong because many are in big trouble on judgment day, if the scripture is taken as it is written.
I agree, but perhaps we disagree on what the message actually being communicated by Jesus really is. Is it about people honestly not being able to discern whether something really is a miracle of the Spirit or not, or is it about rejecting the testimony of the Spirit in the interest of rejecting the truth of the gospel that testimony speaks to? I vote for the latter.
 
I hear what you guys are saying, and agree in large part with your biblical logic, but I think the warning is deeper and it should not be far removed from its clear reading in the scriptures. The simple truth is these people where calling a work of the Holy Spirit, an act of satans power. This is very common in the world and the chruch today, I suggest that much study has been made by many to make the warning seem less clear in its purpose and intention than what the clear reading of the scriptures suggest? Having said that, I hope I am wrong because many are in big trouble on judgment day, if the scripture is taken as it is written.

Hi again George Muller

‘Lean not on your own understanding’
As I have said before, my faith is not in man’s views or opinions, but in what God has said. We can surely have our own understandings, but we should not lean on them.

So, with that said, here is my understanding.

(imho) When Jesus was on earth in the flesh, He had not His own authority, but that which the Father had given Him.

Matt 28:18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth

Luke 11:20 "But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

The works that Jesus did were directly by the Holy Spirit (or the finger of God)

Now that Jesus has been Himself glorified, it is now His own authority.
The works we now do are not directly by the Holy Spirit, but by the Name of Jesus Christ the Son of God.

We are not little Jesus's, who the Father has given all authority in heaven and on earth. The Father gave us His Son, and we are merely His servants. All that we do is through and in the name of the Son.
 
The simple truth is these people where calling a work of the Holy Spirit, an act of satans power. This is very common in the world and the chruch today, I suggest that much study has been made by many to make the warning seem less clear in its purpose and intention than what the clear reading of the scriptures suggest? Having said that, I hope I am wrong because many are in big trouble on judgment day, if the scripture is taken as it is written.

I agree with your definition of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Mark 3:28-30 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

The scribes in Jesus' day blasphemed the Holy Spirit, because they believed that Christ was working under the power of Satan!

However, you should not hope you are wrong regarding the false beliefs of the churches and the world, and their disobedience to God's Word, because it is according to God's will and purpose (as Jesus prayed in Luke 22:42). His Word says that there will be a Judgment Day, and that most of humanity will come under His wrath!... and that only a remnant will be saved (Isaiah 1:9; Romans 11:5).

TGBTG!
 
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