Cain's wife????

[Imagican]

Was Cain's wife one of his NEVER MENTIONED sisters, or 'someone else'?

There is absolutely NO evidence from a Biblical standpoint that Cain would have been ALLOWED to wed one of his sisters and take her away with him.

Yet we HAVE the evidence that Cain was 'sent away' and at SOME point, found a wife. NO MENTION of him being cast out WITH A WIFE. Only that once he arrived in the Land of Nod he KNEW his wife. The indication is that 'somewhere between' being 'cast out' and finding himself IN the Land of Nod, he found a female mate.

So, a sister that was NEVER mentioned, or someone else?

Blessings,

MEC

 

[Adullam]

Often the bible provokes more questions than it answers. This is one of the hallmarks of the word of God. It is wiser to proceed to better questions than to to happy with answers and remain as we are.

Is it not possible that others existed in the earth....outside the garden? Could not Adam represent a people who will rule over creation?

 

[follower of Christ]

A bigger question for those who worry about marrying sisters (something that was not yet outlawed, btw) is who was Seths wife?
Seth wasnt cast out, so who did he marry and have kids with ?

(Gen 4:25MKJV) And Adam knew his wife again. And she bore a son, and called his name Seth. For she said, God has appointed me another seed instead of Abel, because Cain killed him.
Gen 4:26 And there was also a son born to Seth, and he called his name Enos. Then men began to call upon the name of Jehovah.

Something I think we overlook is little tidbits like this one...

And the days of Adam after he had fathered Seth were eight hundred years. And he fathered sons and daughters. And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years. And he died. And Seth lived one hundred and five years and fathered Enos. And after he fathered Enos, Seth lived eight hundred and seven years. And he fathered sons and daughters.
(Gen 5:4-7 MKJV)

There DO seem to be UNnamed sons and daughters, so its not impossible that Cain did marry his sister.
I mean, its not the first time in the OT before the law was given that a man married in a way we call 'incestuous'.

Gen 20:11MKJV And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place, and they will kill me for my wife's sake.
Gen 20:12 And yet truly she is my sister. She is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother. And she became my wife.

Only outlawed later with Mosaic law...

(Lev 18:9 MKJV ) You shall not uncover the nakedness of your sister, the daughter of your father or the daughter of your mother, born at home or born away. Their nakedness you shall not uncover.

 

[Jon-Marc]

Was Cain's wife one of his NEVER MENTIONED sisters, or 'someone else'? Blessings, MEC

Who else could it be? There were only Adam, Eve, and their children. Girls and women are seldom mentioned in the Bible. Of course, you could go with what my dad believed--that Cain mated with an ape. :crazy

 

[samuel]

I would say that the Bible doesn't give an answer to this question, because it is not important to the main focus of scriptures. Its enough to say Cain had a wife, to provide evidence of an earthly line. I would agree with those, who say it was one of his sisters.

To say more than this, is to disagree with the creation evidence given in the Bible.

 

[mechanicdb]

Who else could it be? There were only Adam, Eve, and their children.

I'm not saying I believe it, but there are some who believe that God made a woman for Adam before he made Eve. It says first that God made male and female...then later it says He created a woman from Adam's ribs. I can't recall the woman's name who is said to have been created with Adam.

 

[follower of Christ]

Who else could it be? There were only Adam, Eve, and their children.

I'm not saying I believe it, but there are some who believe that God made a woman for Adam before he made Eve. It says first that God made male and female...then later it says He created a woman from Adam's ribs. I can't recall the woman's name who is said to have been created with Adam.

Lilith, if memory serves.

 

[John]

The age old question of Cains wife can be fully answered here.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... cains-wife

That question is usually one to try to get people to discredit the Bible/Genesis, but it fails.

 

[MISFIT]

[quote="Jon-Marc":cf9v46pg]
Who else could it be? There were only Adam, Eve, and their children.

I'm not saying I believe it, but there are some who believe that God made a woman for Adam before he made Eve. It says first that God made male and female...then later it says He created a woman from Adam's ribs. I can't recall the woman's name who is said to have been created with Adam.

Lilith, if memory serves.
[/quote:cf9v46pg]

Yes Lilith, it's also said that she was a Vampire, the first Vampire.

 

[John]

I actually created a thread similar to this one but it derailed.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=32307&hilit=cain+wife#p381183

 

[Adullam]

I personally don't see why it is such stretch to consider that the earth was populated with both men and women at the very beginning. When God was looking for a mate for Adam, was He searching among the animal kingdom? Is this a reasonable idea? The fact that no suitable mate was found among the children of men only shows that the flesh cannot aspire to help in God's plan.
Hello?

 

[John]

I personally don't see why it is such stretch to consider that the earth was populated with both men and women at the very beginning. When God was looking for a mate for Adam, was He searching among the animal kingdom? Is this a reasonable idea? The fact that no suitable mate was found among the children of men only shows that the flesh cannot aspire to help in God's plan.
Hello?

The Bible makes it clear that only the descendants of Adam can be saved. Romans 5 teaches that we sin because Adam sinned. The death penalty, which Adam received as judgment for his sin of rebellion, has also been passed on to all his descendants.

Since Adam was the head of the human race, when he fell we who were in the loins of Adam fell also. Thus, we are all separated from God.

If there were other people aside form Adam then they escaped judgment.

In Genesis 3:20 we read, “And Adam called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.†In other words, all people other than Adam are descendants of Eveâ€â€she was the first woman.

 

[Adullam]

Does you chart include people with buck teeth? :D

There are many conundrums in the bible. I see how our traditional viewpoints seem tidy...like Adam being the father of all humans....or the flood covering the WHOLE earth. etc

Yet, the bible is written in layers (sorta like an onion, but different ;) ). There are depths of meaning. The Jewish tradition states that there are 4 layers of meaning...the Sod (hidden) level being the deepest. One must dig to find Jesus in the OT. Why not dig elsewhere to reconcile certain conundrums?

Did people change race in the tower of Babel? Was the flood over the whole earth or the whole land? (eretz in Hebrew means land) In other words, the Chinese were from the beginning?! :nod

Why would the mark of Cain be needed when he walked in other land to protect him?

How could the sons of God see that the daughters of men were beautiful? :naughty

There is more to the bible than meets the eye. I for one like the non-tidy, non-dogmatic approach to the truth that ends up with a deeper questioning. It causes us to look deeper!

 

[mechanicdb]

The age old question of Cains wife can be fully answered here.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... cains-wife

That question is usually one to try to get people to discredit the Bible/Genesis, but it fails.

Good article...lengthy, but good; basically it can be summed up that Adam and Eve were told to multiply and had many sons and daughters (which were not recorded individually in the books of the Bible), one of which was most likely Cain's wife although she could have been a niece--- according to the article.

 

[researcher]

Is it not possible that others existed in the earth....outside the garden? Could not Adam represent a people who will rule over creation?

100%

Isa 5:7 For the garden of Jehovah of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for justice, but, behold, oppression; for righteousness, but, behold, a cry.

Gen 2:8 And Jehovah God planted a garden...

Some believe the garden was of the plant variety, but, gardens that God plants are of the human variety

 

[researcher]

Does you chart include people with buck teeth? :D

There are many conundrums in the bible. I see how our traditional viewpoints seem tidy...like Adam being the father of all humans....or the flood covering the WHOLE earth. etc

Yet, the bible is written in layers (sorta like an onion, but different ;) ). There are depths of meaning. The Jewish tradition states that there are 4 layers of meaning...the Sod (hidden) level being the deepest. One must dig to find Jesus in the OT. Why not dig elsewhere to reconcile certain conundrums?

Did people change race in the tower of Babel? Was the flood over the whole earth or the whole land? (eretz in Hebrew means land) In other words, the Chinese were from the beginning?! :nod

Why would the mark of Cain be needed when he walked in other land to protect him?

How could the sons of God see that the daughters of men were beautiful? :naughty

There is more to the bible than meets the eye. I for one like the non-tidy, non-dogmatic approach to the truth that ends up with a deeper questioning. It causes us to look deeper!

 

[Dave Slayer]

I don't think incest existed in those times. There was no law against it and there would be no one to report it to. You couldn't call the cops on someone comitting incest or take them to court over it. There were no police or courts during this time, were there?

 

[Dave Slayer]

From: http://www.gotquestions.org/Cains-wife.html

The Bible does not specifically say who Cain’s wife was. The only possible answer was that Cain's wife was his sister or niece or great-niece, etc. The Bible does not say how old Cain was when he killed Abel (Genesis 4:8). Since they were both farmers, they were likely both full-grown adults, possibly with families of their own. Adam and Eve had surely had more children than just Cain and Abel at the time Abel was killed - they definitely had many more children later (Genesis 5:4). The fact that Cain was scared for his own life after he killed Abel (Genesis 4:14) indicates that there were likely many other children and perhaps even grandchildren or great-grandchildren of Adam and Eve at that time. Cain's wife (Genesis 4:17) was a daughter or granddaughter of Adam and Eve.

Since Adam and Eve were the first (and only) human beings, their children would have no other choice than to intermarry. God did not forbid inter-family marriage until much later when there was enough people that intermarriage was not necessary (Leviticus 18:6-18). The reason that incest often results in genetic abnormalities in children is that when two people of similar genetics (i.e. a brother and sister) have children – genetic defects are far more likely to result because both parents had the same defects themselves. When people from different families have children – it is highly unlikely that both parents will have the same genetic defects. The human genetic code has become increasingly “polluted†over the centuries as genetic defects are multiplied, amplified, and passed down from generation to generation. Adam and Eve did not have any genetic defects, so that enabled them and the first few generations of their descendants to have a far greater quality of health than we do now. Adam and Eve’s children had few, if any, genetic defects. As a result, it was safe for them to intermarry. It may seem strange or even disgusting to think of Cain's wife being his sister. In the beginning, since God started with one man and one woman, the second generation would have no choice but to intermarry amongst themselves.

 

[John]

good post Dave!

 

[Adullam]

From: http://www.gotquestions.org/Cains-wife.html

The Bible does not specifically say who Cain’s wife was. The only possible answer was that Cain's wife was his sister or niece or great-niece, etc. The Bible does not say how old Cain was when he killed Abel (Genesis 4:8). Since they were both farmers, they were likely both full-grown adults, possibly with families of their own. Adam and Eve had surely had more children than just Cain and Abel at the time Abel was killed - they definitely had many more children later (Genesis 5:4). The fact that Cain was scared for his own life after he killed Abel (Genesis 4:14) indicates that there were likely many other children and perhaps even grandchildren or great-grandchildren of Adam and Eve at that time. Cain's wife (Genesis 4:17) was a daughter or granddaughter of Adam and Eve.

Since Adam and Eve were the first (and only) human beings, their children would have no other choice than to intermarry. God did not forbid inter-family marriage until much later when there was enough people that intermarriage was not necessary (Leviticus 18:6-18). The reason that incest often results in genetic abnormalities in children is that when two people of similar genetics (i.e. a brother and sister) have children – genetic defects are far more likely to result because both parents had the same defects themselves. When people from different families have children – it is highly unlikely that both parents will have the same genetic defects. The human genetic code has become increasingly “polluted†over the centuries as genetic defects are multiplied, amplified, and passed down from generation to generation. Adam and Eve did not have any genetic defects, so that enabled them and the first few generations of their descendants to have a far greater quality of health than we do now. Adam and Eve’s children had few, if any, genetic defects. As a result, it was safe for them to intermarry. It may seem strange or even disgusting to think of Cain's wife being his sister. In the beginning, since God started with one man and one woman, the second generation would have no choice but to intermarry amongst themselves.

Are you saying that Cain was hill folk?