Oz,
I think I am done with the back and forth. I don't have the leisure nor the desire to keep up with your citations. (I believe you are up to nine.) I did get through your third citation and Birch actually seems much more able to articulate good arguments. (Though I would love to get clarification around his understanding of man's role in salvation, I think I could dialog with him.) I believe arguing with you is probably not a fruitful exercise. Trying to carry on a legitimate argument with you feels like the pizza shop Whack-a-Mole game. You can throw citations faster than I can read/respond and you don't seem too ready to deal with the main points of my responses. Also, I lost my trust in your fairness when it became evident you accepted Olson's critique of a specific Piper audio and yet had never gone through the trouble of listening to the audio, simply assuming Olson's accuracy. Also, the first two citations had a fair amount of personal animosity woven in to the level I would have never used them as fair presentations of any point. (Again, I thought the third was much more intelligently articulated and the frustration Birch writes with seemed tied to his point and not just personal animosity.)
I wish you the best.
