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Can atheists disprove the existence of God?

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Individuals don't evolve. Good lord.. This forum is nauseating. You people wonder why I would be embarrassed to call myself a Christian?
 
animal said:
Individuals don't evolve. Good lord.. This forum is nauseating. You people wonder why I would be embarrassed to call myself a Christian?


You would be embarrassed to call yourself a Christian because someones opinion differs from yours on a online forum? :eyebrow
 
animal said:
Individuals don't evolve. Good lord.. This forum is nauseating. You people wonder why I would be embarrassed to call myself a Christian?


LOL! It was meant sarcastically. Don't take yourself so seriously and I won't either.

Embarrased or ashamed?
 
Evolution.

You all are spending more time on who supports what opinion and what your opinion is.'
How about trying to demonstrate literally why you have the view point you do.

Evolution. Here is a question. If you believe that life around us evolved. Where are the half man/apes?
Where are the changing creatures half mammal half amphibian?


Point made.

Even to prove the very existence of evolution. Where did the very first cell come from?
I look at creation like this. Analogy. Something greater had to be responsible for making a computer right? Man. So, wouldn't something greater have to be able to create man?

If you look at the universe everything has a reason for existence nad a pattern. The Solar system would be a great example. Look at the planets and how they orbit in space. I have not heard of something being created spontaneously and being organized.

Edouard.
Hope to leave you with some thoughts.
God be with you!
 
Edouard said:
Evolution.

You all are spending more time on who supports what opinion and what your opinion is.'
How about trying to demonstrate literally why you have the view point you do.

Evolution. Here is a question. If you believe that life around us evolved. Where are the half man/apes?
Humans are a branch of the ape family, so we aren't half ape, we are apes. To fully answer your question, they went extint. There is actually a plethora of knowledge on this subject and even a half dozen documentries on the discovery chanle.There is even a thread in General discusion about a discovery of an even older pre human ancestor.
Edouard said:
Where are the changing creatures half mammal half amphibian?
There wouldn't be any, considering Mammals where a split off of reptiles not amphibians. There are a ton of charts that show the animal kingdoms and how they split from each other, even showing animals that have aspects of diferent kingdomes. ( Pangolins, Enchidnas, Platapi, Anchiornis huxleyi)


Edouard said:
Point made.
No, I would sugest actually taking some time to read up on some the basics of evolution and biology in general. Arguments from ignorance are frowned upon and usually just end up making the creation side look bad.

Edouard said:
Even to prove the very existence of evolution. Where did the very first cell come from?
Evolution isn't a theory about creation, its a theory about adaptation and development
Edouard said:
I look at creation like this. Analogy. Something greater had to be responsible for making a computer right? Man. So, wouldn't something greater have to be able to create man?
Apples to oranges. A computer is a tool made and designed for a certain purpose and can't adapt without outside interferance. Living creatures can adapt on there own.

Edouard said:
If you look at the universe everything has a reason for existence nad a pattern. The Solar system would be a great example. Look at the planets and how they orbit in space. I have not heard of something being created spontaneously and being organized.
The planets are organized the way they are baseds on the laws of gravity. A star forms and has a massive amount of gravity. other bodies are drawn in and repel one another based on their gravity fields. Enough bodies form and draw together and you have a solar system.
Our solar systems and organisms are constantly changing, the univers is expanding and newer systems are forming all the time. All based on the laws of physics. the actual organization and orde we see is nothing more then bodies repeling each other and attracting each other.
Edouard said:
Edouard.
Hope to leave you with some thoughts.
God be with you!
I've heard those arguments before. They are argumetns from ignorance, and usually only convince those that are unaware of or don't know the theories.
 
Jon-Marc said:
animal said:
Can theists prove the existence of a specific God?

Not if that god doesn't exist. There is only ONE God, and everything around us PROVES His existence to those whose eyes are not blind and whose minds are not closed.

Seen on a bumper sticker: "The mind is like a parachute. It has to be open for it to work." The eyes and minds of most people are blind and closed to the truth of God's word that there only ONE God, and he created EVERYTHING that exists. NOTHING can exist without Him.

That's enough to suggest a Creator God. How do we prove the rest of his aspects though? Because as it stands, your proof is only enough for some kind of Deism.

Dave Slayer said:
Which is why I think it is better to be safe than sorry. I would rather die believing in Jesus and find out heaven isn't real than to die an atheist and find out hell is real.

This is a bad reason from any perspective. It's possible that believing in Jesus could qualify you for some hell (after all, atheism and Christianity aren't the only choices out there...and that's not counting the possibilities that aren't even real world religions).

Also, it's possible God won't be too happy about being treated as a "safety net".
 
Regardless of whether or not Yahweh or any god exist, you could not disprove their existence. You can make arguments either way but not PROVE. Prove is a math word. It means without any doubt or 100% true. Science does not use that sort of language. They don't try to prove things in that manner.
 
Aero_Hudson said:
Let's be honest...atheists and Christians alike cannot prove nor disprove the existence of God. Noone will conclusively know until the day they die.

Umm... why would that specific moment make any difference? Don't we have to wait for the day of resurrection?

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Psa 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
 
Maybe I should have asked first if Aero Hudson is an atheist or not. :ohwell
 
Sakari said:
Maybe I should have asked first if Aero Hudson is an atheist or not. :ohwell

I am not an atheist. I am a Jesus Follower.

My point is that no one will know in a way that satisfies the scientific process or something that is measurable. Faith is experiential more than anything. I cannot prove to anyone what I experience since they cannot experience it with me and as me.
 
GO Areo Hudson!!! Beautiful witness for our Lord! Just giving a brother a slap of encouragment ~ ! :D

sheshisown~
 
Woot! Thank you both. I'm rocking it out with the Holy Spirit brothers and sisters! :)
 
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