Can atheists disprove the existence of God?

[WiLdAtHeArT]

Quote from a Nature article on origin-of-life experiments:

“In the end, there is no agreement on how to solve the problem of life’s origin. William Martin [Heinrich Heine University, Dusseldorf] thinks that research on the topic is “unfalsifiable conjecture†– the best we can hope for is a convincing story. “Even if you were to make a reactor in the laboratory, and put hydrogen and carbon dioxide and nitrogen in one end, and out pops something like Escherichia coli at the other end, you still couldn’t prove that we and our ancestors arose that way. You’d just have a narrative tha made it more plausible.â€Â

 

[Dave Slayer]

It's pretty simple...

Christians have faith that God exists and Atheists require tangible proof that they will never find. Both sides have a position. I think it is safe to say that neither side will find out for sure until we leave this earth.

Which is why I think it is better to be safe than sorry. I would rather die believing in Jesus and find out heaven isn't real than to die an atheist and find out hell is real.

 

[Shamwow]

:crazy

Are you an atheist?

yes

 

[Evointrinsic]

Quote from a Nature article on origin-of-life experiments:

“In the end, there is no agreement on how to solve the problem of life’s origin. William Martin [Heinrich Heine University, Dusseldorf] thinks that research on the topic is “unfalsifiable conjecture†– the best we can hope for is a convincing story. “Even if you were to make a reactor in the laboratory, and put hydrogen and carbon dioxide and nitrogen in one end, and out pops something like Escherichia coli at the other end, you still couldn’t prove that we and our ancestors arose that way. You’d just have a narrative that made it more plausible.â€Â

And thus was born a scientific theory! :D

 

[animal]

Can theists prove the existence of a specific God?

Not if that god doesn't exist.

Prove it.

 

[JoJo]

Christians have faith that God exists and Atheists require tangible proof that they will never find. Both sides have a position. I think it is safe to say that neither side will find out for sure until we leave this earth.

Atheists are gonna be annoyed at me for this one :nag -- I don't need to wait until I leave this earth to find out, I already know that God exists! :yes

 

[jasoncran]

I was about to say that jojo as if we are truly christians we should know if he whom we trust(faith) otherwise we are men most miserable. Our salvation depends on it, for without faith its impossible to please God for they seek him must believe in him, and God is a rewarder of them that diligent seek him.

Is true that God hides, but he leaves hints in nature and the Bible that describe his nature, and he wants us hunger for him. He wants us to, he gives us the ability to see him, and we must be open to him. For noone can come to the Son except he be drawn by the Father, and vice versa.

 

[Evointrinsic]

haha, that doesnt bother me too much jojo. it's those people that missunderstand evolution! BRIAN! lol, just kidding.

grrrrrr! :D

 

[Guest]

Their position is that no position is the logical position.

Then, by definition, atheism is illogical.

 

[GojuBrian]

haha, that doesnt bother me too much jojo. it's those people that missunderstand evolution! BRIAN! lol, just kidding.

grrrrrr! :D

I have no interest in evolution. You have to have too much faith, but atleast I write my own posts..poke..poke.

 

[Evointrinsic]

lol, I do too :D mostly

I have just as much faith in cell theory :yes

 

[turnorburn]

I thought you were going to the Cayman Islands?

 

[Evointrinsic]

Do you really want me gone that bad turn? lol, just kidding.

My plane leaves at 12:30am sunday (midnight tonight) so i have most of the day at home

 

[JoJo]

I have just as much faith in cell theory :yes

Well I don't know much about "cell theory" (please don't explain -- I get lost in science), but is there any reason why God can't be responsible for authoring it (if it's true)?

 

[Evointrinsic]

I have just as much faith in cell theory :yes

Well I don't know much about "cell theory" (please don't explain -- I get lost in science), but is there any reason why God can't be responsible for authoring it (if it's true)?

God could very well be guiding evolution through the ages. I am not saying he didnt, it is possible that he is. I am just saying that evolution is a fact (the theory of evolution is just an explanation of this fact, just like cell theory or the theory of gravity or atomic theory [notice how we've been able to produce atomic bombs and have proof of cells and gravity])

Genesis, as it is described in the bible could have happened and the argument that everything was aged and so on could also have happened. but to get what we have today could not have happened without evolution (eg: different skin color, hair color, eye color and so on). Evolution is an intrinsic property of life.

 

[JoJo]

Genesis, as it is described in the bible could have happened and the argument that everything was aged and so on could also have happened. but to get what we have today could not have happened without evolution (eg: different skin color, hair color, eye color and so on). Evolution is an intrinsic property of life.

Makes sense to me.

 

[GojuBrian]

Genesis, as it is described in the bible could have happened and the argument that everything was aged and so on could also have happened. but to get what we have today could not have happened without evolution (eg: different skin color, hair color, eye color and so on). Evolution is an intrinsic property of life.

Makes sense to me.

Doesn't to me. Evolution says everything came from different "kinds". Creation and God says we were created in his likeness. He didn't say we were created from amoeba that came from outer space and then evolved over billions of years through natural selection..... :nag

Different skin color,etc is adaptation, not evolution.

 

[Evointrinsic]

you do realize that you need to evolve to adapt?

Also, the majority of prevailing abiogenesis theories never say anything about primitive extraterrestrial life ;)

also, couldn't it be possible for got to create something 6000 years ago and apply evolution then?

 

[JoJo]

Genesis, as it is described in the bible could have happened and the argument that everything was aged and so on could also have happened. but to get what we have today could not have happened without evolution (eg: different skin color, hair color, eye color and so on). Evolution is an intrinsic property of life.

Makes sense to me.

Doesn't to me. Evolution says everything came from different "kinds". Creation and God says we were created in his likeness. He didn't say we were created from amoeba that came from outer space and then evolved over billions of years through natural selection..... :nag

Different skin color,etc is adaptation, not evolution.

You're right, Brian. I was referring to "evolution" in the sense that we have changed over the centuries. I should have clarified myself. For the record, I do not agree with any theory that says we evolved from apes or tadpoles or whatever.

 

[GojuBrian]

you do realize that you need to evolve to adapt?

Also, the majority of prevailing abiogenesis theories never say anything about primitive extraterrestrial life ;)

also, couldn't it be possible for got to create something 6000 years ago and apply evolution then?

I need to evolve to adapt? We're talking about two different things here I'm afraid. BTW, I dod not evolve from anything.

No, that could not be possible if we believe the Bible an God breathed.

Evo, What do you say about Jesus? Did he evolve? :eyebrow