[_ Old Earth _] Can Science Explain This

[Deavonreye]

This thread doesn't make a lot of sense. Talking about a death bed experience, . . . then onto a "conspiracy theory" about how big pharma lets people die to get more money, and how they suppress natural cures.

I am a proponent of natural living. If I can find an alternative that is natural, especially in the foods I eat [finding all natural ingrediences, not purchasing items with obvious man made products in them, like MSG or partially hydrogenated oils]. Could there be a natural cure for cancer? I don't know. It would be great if there were, and it just hadn't been found yet. But to say that there is a conspiracy against people for the sake of dollars, . . . :

 

[jasoncran]

Pretty strong statement don't you think "no cure" did science tell you that I know God didn't. No matter this thread is dead.. I'll leave you guys to hash it out.. if you want to be productive live for God and prove to Him Jesus didn't come here in vain.. Go to the lost.

"O MARTHA, MARTHA, YOU HAVE SEALED MY EVERLASTING DAMNATION!"

Rev. Thomas Graham, the noted revivalist preacher of the Erie Conference of the Methodist Episcopal Church, relates the following sad experience:






A man who lived in Westmoreland county, Pa., had strong religious feelings and had commenced a religious life. About this time he married a woman who was decidedly irreligious and who opposed him. She forced him to omit family worship; she forced him from his closet and followed him with her opposition until he finally, discouraged, gave it up. The Spirit of God left him.

He told Rev. Mr. Potter, a Presbyterian minister that he was lost forever and that he knew the very time and place the Spirit took its final departure; that he was going to hell but cared nothing about it. He lived some ten years after this and then died in the most awful agonies. He asked his wife to give him a glass of water for he would obtain none where he was going. He drank it greedily; then, looking his wife in the face, exclaimed, "O Martha, Martha, you have sealed my everlasting damnation!" and died.


turnorburn

that is because once the dna is damaged it can show up again and restart. cancer is caused by radicals and so forth that damage the dna. its also called mestatising. that is what happened when they tried to help him. and it can within days.

 

[lordkalvan]

Can science explain why when God put everything we needed for our health herbs fruits nuts vegetables and all of the etc. Then science proceeded to corrupt all of it.. the cure for cancer is right under our noses they know it we should know it. Science helped the pharmaceuticals to establish cancer institutions where the watch word is $$$$

Do you have evidence of these suppressed cancer cures?

 

[lordkalvan]

G-Day mate I posted it for the unsaved science can't explain salvation maybe if they were able you'd be saved.

'Salvation' is an abstract concept laden with subjective overtones. The reactions that you have described in your anecdotal accounts are quite explicable naturalistically.

 

[lordkalvan]

This thread doesn't make a lot of sense. Talking about a death bed experience, . . . then onto a "conspiracy theory" about how big pharma lets people die to get more money, and how they suppress natural cures.

I am a proponent of natural living. If I can find an alternative that is natural, especially in the foods I eat [finding all natural ingrediences, not purchasing items with obvious man made products in them, like MSG or partially hydrogenated oils]. Could there be a natural cure for cancer? I don't know. It would be great if there were, and it just hadn't been found yet. But to say that there is a conspiracy against people for the sake of dollars, . . . :

I agree. All we have here is second- or third-hand anecdotal accounts subjectively interpreted and an unsupported accusation that science is conspiring to suppress effective medical treatments at the behest of the pharmaceutical indstry.