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Certain professions get me worried.

David killed alot of his enemies. God told him he can't build Him a Temple - that his hand has alot of blood. It was his son, Solomon, who built God the Temple. Was something wrong with the King killing people?

That was on account of his heinous murder of Uriah and adultery with Uriah's wife Bathsheba. David didn't kill just to protect his people or the Word of God, he killed for lust and greed. If you ask me, God went light on him.

Nationalist, I don't think so. God could have openly warned him directly or through the prophets.
 
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Thanks, Jasoncran for those links. I still fail to understand why God would not have David build that Temple.

I need clarification. All isn't clear yet
 
Nationalist, I don't think so. God could have openly warned him directly or through the prophets.

The prophet came after the fact:

Samuel 12 said:
1 The LORD sent Nathan to David. When he came to him, he said, “There were two men in a certain town, one rich and the other poor. 2 The rich man had a very large number of sheep and cattle, 3 but the poor man had nothing except one little ewe lamb he had bought. He raised it, and it grew up with him and his children. It shared his food, drank from his cup and even slept in his arms. It was like a daughter to him.
4 “Now a traveler came to the rich man, but the rich man refrained from taking one of his own sheep or cattle to prepare a meal for the traveler who had come to him. Instead, he took the ewe lamb that belonged to the poor man and prepared it for the one who had come to him.â€

5 David burned with anger against the man and said to Nathan, “As surely as the LORD lives, the man who did this must die! 6 He must pay for that lamb four times over, because he did such a thing and had no pity.â€

7 Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more. 9 Why did you despise the word of the LORD by doing what is evil in his eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife to be your own. You killed him with the sword of the Ammonites. 10 Now, therefore, the sword will never depart from your house, because you despised me and took the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your own.’

11 “This is what the LORD says: ‘Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity on you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight. 12 You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.’â€

13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the LORD.â€

Nathan replied, “The LORD has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the LORD, the son born to you will die.â€

15 After Nathan had gone home, the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. 16 David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and spent the nights lying in sackcloth on the ground. 17 The elders of his household stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he refused, and he would not eat any food with them.
 
The reason why two brothers, sisters, husband and wife, friends etc would fight each other is simple: greed and selfishness.

I.e, reason why people fight.

Where are the fans of Thomas Wolfe?
 
because im sure that there are christians in uniform in country.
and yet you say that they fight for greed.

really so making at the most for me if at my present rank. 50k a year tax free makes me a mercenary. and yet if i play football, and make millions, have sex with women and also sell products. not a problem?

hardly. for the record i have served my country and know far more of what war has done to men then you can possible imagine. i have had ptsd. i have had a troop in platoon take his life beacause he couldnt return to society and deal with ptsd.

and you call him greedy. i also remind you that a young man in my unit felt the need to join in the fight and volunteered to die if need be . he did just by accident sadly.

in honor of spc wadman and sgt prestridge.
http://www.militarytimes.com/valor/army-pfc-brandon-j-wadman/262997/

i remember that day and i SAW THE AFTER effect of that rollover. it was my first mission in country. part of me died that day. as i had to deal with his loss and also not get to caught up in his death. so i had to desentize its sting alittle.

yet at the funeral in bagram, i was whining over my life and why i joined. it all changed when i heard his story and thought how selfish i was and God was dealing with me on service.this man was a christian. he did it for love of country and GOD.


theres more to it and i wont share it. i can whimp out of service to my country. im a man of integrety and i wont go out like that.
 
Men and women who serve their country in the army are heroes. They are sent away from their loved ones and risk their lives every day, yet never get the appreciation or recognition they deserve. Instead, they are so often criticized by the media and others, and to be honest, it is sickening that people think what they do is wrong.
 
[highlight]There are some very less greedy ones, gov[/highlight]

Jasoncran you are misinterpreting and missing something on the area of greed and selfishness.

If lizard city armies fight mouse nation armies they are not on the mission on their own accord. Their government sent them. It is the greed and the selfishness of the individual countries. I see you clearly misunderstood me. (There is alot of money in this millitary thing, and alot of people flood into it to make money. This is not the greed am talking about. It is not the selfishness am talking about).

What am I talking about? I'm talking about the greed and selfishness of the lizard/Mouse government who send this people out to fight. This has to do with governments and politics.


When I mentioned two brothers, two sisters, husband and wife etc I was talking about a different issue. Thus: why do two fight - if not for the stronger to control the weaker?
 
And at times some of these millitary people are being cruely used:angry

some die, others lose their wives to other non-soldiers, some children abandon their parents, some families get shattered - no fatherly figure etc

I know alot what they suffer
 
Certain professions get me worried. Can a christian design a brothel (he's awarded this contract)?

Can a christian programmer design and manage a pornography website for someone?
There are many others.

However my emphasis is on this millitary stuff.

Can a christian choose to be a soldier, and killing enemies in wars? Some have killed more than a hundred :dunno :shrug :confused :shocked

A Christian shouldn't design a brothel, or design or manage a pornograpy website.

I think it's okay to kill in self-defense or in defense of those we care about.
 
David didn't kill just to protect his people or the Word of God, he killed for lust and greed.
Nationalist, I don't think so. God could have openly warned him directly or through the prophets.
The prophet came after the fact:
I'm not talking about the issue of Nathan and David. You said beloved David killed for Lust and Greed. My reply is that, God could have warned him directly or through the prophets that he was killing for lust and greed.

God frowned against this:

That was on account of his heinous murder of Uriah and adultery with Uriah's wife Bathsheba. David didn't kill just to protect his people or the Word of God, he killed for lust and greed. If you ask me, God went light on him.
and his other killings (thousands of enemies) were not based on lust and greed.
 
So, God should send a prophet every time a leader is doing something naughty? That argument is so weak that I consider it disposable.

David was never cursed by God for the other killings, he was for Uriah.
 
proving a goverment acts in greed isnt as easy as you say.

some of these peacelovers are also big on spending on their greedy projects.

green tech,healthcare that their pharmacy happens to benefit from.

green tech often isnt, abortion is also a big money maker.

if we wanted oil, canada and its small army would the be the easiest to take in close proiximity, we didnt send our troops to guard the oil in iraq.

we let it all go to crap when we left at the request of the iraqui goverment, again hardly the act of an agressor.
 
Wow! Jasoncran
You've been mentioning 'America' ever since:
is there something wrong with being paid to serve ones country?
while you blog this here, there are americans dying afghanistan so that this site can allow you insult them.


well, all we citizens have is the info that the goverment or the corpotarist media tell us why the wars went down.
we dont sit in on the nsa media. here the dems went along with bush then shafted him when the war in iraq got tough. then when he was gone they marched with obama when the nato forces hit lybia and also sent arms to the rebels.
so neither side is innocent. not all wars are just. but can we honestly say that america has been that agressive?


in the past ere the constitution of 1789 americas goverment had the bible printed and later on encouraged reading.

your european and modern day american goverments wouldnt allow that at all. and yet we have violence in schools, needless wars at times, and godless living being promoted by the goverment.

my goverment promotes gay rights to the islamicnations and then wonders why they hate us.
yet wont promote the babies right to live, the basic right of humans to worship as they see fit openly(see breakpoint.orgfor that) as the left here is for the right to worship. that isnt what the constution guarentees.



if we wanted oil, canada and its small army would the be the easiest to take in close proiximity, we didnt send our troops to guard theoil in iraq.
we let it all go to crap when we left at the request of the iraqui goverment, again hardly the act of an agressor.

Any reason for that?
 
yes, beacause the world and the democrats and the paulbots and or liberatarians in part seem to think that we are the agressor.

i will if you so ask show in history where we did indeed become imperialist and also murder rightful land owners for their lands and also took land and made them states.

ie hawaii.
 
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