China Virus

[HeIsRisen2018]

cute avatar!

Thanks, it's EB from Hop.

 

[GodsGrace]

That would be racist cannnot say China virus, i mean the German measles and Spanish flu.

President Trump used the term CHINA VIRUS...
so I think you're safe.

 

[GodsGrace]

I am not sure about the idea the Chinese were keeping it secret.
I know Trump dismissed the significance when told about it by US experts, so to me that was a critical failure.

Every country here in Europe reacted the same way as Trump.
I think it was difficult to know what we were dealing with due to China's witholding of information. Or, maybe we wouldn't have believed it anyway --- who can know.

I think we still don't really know a lot about this virus....
Here all stores are closed: Only food stores, medical, and banks are still open. Illegal to go out unless necessary...not even family get-togethers. No jogging or walking dogs....and more.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Illegal to go out unless necessary...not even family get-togethers. No jogging or walking dogs....and more.

We can still do things like that, but starting tonight we won't actually be able to go out anywhere unless it's essential.

 

[Corn Pop]

We can still do things like that, but starting tonight we won't actually be able to go out anywhere unless it's essential.

Same here. Last day before I'm in lockdown. I can go to work and get gas and food, that's about it. I can go fishing but only with the people I live with.

Must stay away from people.

First to the fishing dock wins. Lol.

 

[iLOVE]

We have arrived when level one problems can’t be solved by level one thinking. A divine disruption of the systems of the world has been effected with no solution to deal with this chaos with no peace. If you only see the virus you are not seeing all that’s taking place in the spiritual realm. We are just getting a taste of what life looks like without Faith placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and Him Crucified. The scriptures say, “...and God turned them over...”(Romans 1:24, 26, 28). When you leave the Cross you enter death.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

Every country here in Europe reacted the same way as Trump.
I think it was difficult to know what we were dealing with due to China's witholding of information. Or, maybe we wouldn't have believed it anyway --- who can know.

I think we still don't really know a lot about this virus....
Here all stores are closed: Only food stores, medical, and banks are still open. Illegal to go out unless necessary...not even family get-togethers. No jogging or walking dogs....and more.

Every country here in Europe reacted the same way as Trump.
I think it was difficult to know what we were dealing with due to China's witholding of information. Or, maybe we wouldn't have believed it anyway --- who can know.

I think we still don't really know a lot about this virus....
Here all stores are closed: Only food stores, medical, and banks are still open. Illegal to go out unless necessary...not even family get-togethers. No jogging or walking dogs....and more.

Fauci on the facts

 

[iLOVE]

We have arrived when level one problems can’t be solved by level one thinking. A divine disruption of the systems of the world has been effected with no solution to deal with this chaos with no peace. If you only see the virus you are not seeing all that’s taking place in the spiritual realm. We are just getting a taste of what life looks like without Faith placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and Him Crucified. The scriptures say, “...and God turned them over...”(Romans 1:24, 26, 28). When you leave the Cross you enter death.

America and the world must understand when you turn your back on Our Lord Jesus Christ, spiritually speaking, He will vex you with all kinds of adversity.

2 Chronicles 15 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

Asa’s Changes

1 The Spirit of God came on Azariah, who was Obed’s son.

2 Azariah went to meet Asa and said, “Listen to me, Asa and all you people of Judah and Benjamin. The Lord is with you when you are with Him. If you look for Him, you will find Him. But if you leave Him, He will leave you.

3 For a long time Israel was without the true God. And they were without a teaching priest, and without the law.

4 But when the Israelites had trouble, they turned again to the Lord, the God of Israel. They looked for Him and found Him.

5 In those times of trouble, no one could travel safely. There was great trouble in all the nations.

6 One nation would destroy another nation and one city would destroy another city. This was happening because God gave them all kinds of trouble.

7 But Asa, you and the people of Judah and Benjamin, be strong. Don’t be weak and don’t give up, because you will get a reward for your good work!” 2 Chronicles 15:1-7

Travel = Plane, train, vehicle, or walking.

Don’t be weak and don’t give up = Fight the good fight of faith...1 Timothy 6:12

 

[Susannah]

"Do not judge, or you will be judged. For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you . . ."

"Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone . . ."

“You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. . ."

Have a nice evening . . .

 

[JohnDB]

I'm thinking that a new "Great Wall" around China might be appropriate...and not one they built either.
I don't think that they will like that too much.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

Who knows? In the future the vibrant, persecuted underground church in China may send missionaries to America to help revive the church here some day. Wouldn’t want them restricted from that by China being isolated.

 

[JohnDB]

Who knows? In the future the vibrant, persecuted underground church in China may send missionaries to America to help revive the church here some day. Wouldn’t want them restricted from that by China being isolated.

Actually,
They have a "Back to Israel" mission planned...where they will flood (one million at least) the areas west with missionaries heading towards Israel... until the whole world hears.

 

[WIP]

I am not sure about the idea the Chinese were keeping it secret.
I know Trump dismissed the significance when told about it by US experts, so to me that was a critical failure.

Here's some information about this that I found.

This is from the Japan Times, dated March 16.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinio...-commentary/made-china-pandemic/#.XnooFYhKhPY

From the Asean Post, March 24.
https://theaseanpost.com/article/made-china-pandemic

To the question of the blame game. Just finding someone to blame is of no value, however, discovering that a particular person or persons are responsible for this becoming the epidemic it did is important. Not so much in order to reprimand but to set in motion processes to hopefully prevent such catastrophes in the future.

In the case with China's hush-hush attitude, by challenging it and calling China out we just might reduce the chance of this happening in the future.

When my children did something wrong, I didn't sweep it under a rug, shrug my shoulders, and say that it's too late to matter who caused the problem. I did my best to find out and take appropriate measures to train my child to not do such things again.

 

[JohnDB]

Here's some information about this that I found.

This is from the Japan Times, dated March 16.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinio...-commentary/made-china-pandemic/#.XnooFYhKhPY

From the Asean Post, March 24.
https://theaseanpost.com/article/made-china-pandemic

To the question of the blame game. Just finding someone to blame is of no value, however, discovering that a particular person or persons are responsible for this becoming the epidemic it did is important. Not so much in order to reprimand but to set in motion processes to hopefully prevent such catastrophes in the future.

In the case with China's hush-hush attitude, by challenging it and calling China out we just might reduce the chance of this happening in the future.

When my children did something wrong, I didn't sweep it under a rug, shrug my shoulders, and say that it's too late to matter who caused the problem. I did my best to find out and take appropriate measures to train my child to not do such things again.

And that's what I and others are saying...
It's not the virus itself...it's going to happen there... been happening there for a long time now. We never have given them recriminations for them either. Just asked to let us know when it happens...

But this time they didn't...and that's what the nation's are upset over.

 

[Christ the King]

The west should stop trading with China or at least stop buying from them.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

The west should stop trading with China or at least stop buying from them.

Well then I'm not sure about from where you are but that would mean that America would pretty much have nothing as that's where we get the majority of our products.

 

[Christ the King]

Well then I'm not sure about from where you are but that would mean that America would pretty much have nothing as that's where we get the majority of our products.

Bring industry and engineering back to the states.
Bring manufacturing back to the west

 

[WIP]

Bring industry and engineering back to the states.
Bring manufacturing back to the west

How do you pay for that? It requires land, buildings, machinery, personnel, and so on. That's a huge investment.

 

[Christ the King]

How do you pay for that? It requires land, buildings, machinery, personnel, and so on. That's a huge investment.

For companies like Nike who spend under $1 to make a pair of sneakers to sell for $200 and all the other western companies that sold out, they can sell their factories in China and buy factories in the west again.

 

[WIP]

For companies like Nike who spend under $1 to make a pair of sneakers to sell for $200 and all the other western companies that sold out, they can sell their factories in China and buy factories in the west again.

First, that doesn't solve our immediate problem. Second, it's not my place as an unknowing bystander or Christian to support a statement like this. Besides, Nike isn't in the business of making the needed medical supplies.

During the swine flu epidemic, some companies did try what you describe on a low scale. It nearly put them into bankruptcy. Here's a statement from the article I linked below where it is explained.

Prestige Ameritech, for example, owns a limited number of machines that assemble, sew and shape the masks. A decade ago, it ramped up production in response to the swine flu outbreak by buying more machines and hiring 150 new workers.

"We made a really big mistake," Bowen says of that decision. It took about four months to build the new machines, which are as long as a school bus and cost as much as $1 million.

By the time they were ready, the swine flu crisis had ended, demand vaporized, and Prestige Ameritech almost went bankrupt. "One day — and it is literally almost like one day — it just quits. The demand is over, the phones stop ringing," Bowen says.

To make matters worse, the hospitals and medical supply companies suddenly had a glut of masks; they stopped buying for months.

Here's the link.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-9_N28i2BdGLnlnQ81797FQgvSFqznadymp2txrh_qMBU