Christ applies redemption as well!

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Okay, but do we mean the same thing ? This applies only to the elect, not the non elect who perish in their sins and unbelief. Christ didnt die for all mankind as some mistakenly believe.

I agree.
Israel is elect. They will be saved by virtue of covenant.
There is no requirement in the Abrahamic Covenant for "faith." It is not mentioned. (Gen. 17.) When Paul said in Romans 11 that "all Israel shall be saved," he did not save they would come to accept Jesus," but merely that ALL Israel shall be saved," and this God does through covenant.
At the Marriage Supper Israel is there through Covenant.
Gentiles are there by invitation.

 

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I agree.
Israel is elect. They will be saved by virtue of covenant.
There is no requirement in the Abrahamic Covenant for "faith." It is not mentioned. (Gen. 17.) When Paul said in Romans 11 that "all Israel shall be saved," he did not save they would come to accept Jesus," but merely that ALL Israel shall be saved," and this God does through covenant.
At the Marriage Supper Israel is there through Covenant.
Gentiles are there by invitation.

I dont know what you talking about. . Christ didn't die for all mankind as some mistakenly believe.

 

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I dont know what you talking about. . Christ didn't die for all mankind as some mistakenly believe.

No. He died for His Church and Bride as per the covenant.
Israel.
God made no covenant with any Gentile or seed of Gentiles as He did with Abraham and HIS seed. And Gentiles are not his seed. They do not come from his loins.

 

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No. He died for His Church and Bride as per the covenant.
Israel.
God made no covenant with any Gentile or seed of Gentiles as He did with Abraham and HIS seed. And Gentiles are not his seed. They do not come from his loins.

We not on the same page, also please dont bring ethnicity into this thread, those who Christ died for and applies Salvation to are of different ethnicities. There is no special ethnicity when it comes to Salvation, and if you believe it is, take it somewhere else please, this is a fair warning.

 

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Christ has already died their second death ! 2


1 Cor 15:3

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

Now inclusive in the phrase of Truth, Christ died for our sins, is the second death, in the lake of fire ! Remember John wrote Rev 20:14

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev 21:8

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

This is that Eternal Retrobution of Wrath for sins Eph 5:5-7

For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

If you notice whoremonger and idolator are also listed in Rev 21:8 as those who go into the second death !

Now, those Christ died for, He has already for them endured God's second death for their sins. The Second Death and Eternal Punishment which should have been their lot with the children of disobedience, has already been done for them, in Christ's dying for their sins. Christ in a short while equivalently suffered all the wrath God's Elect deserved for an eternity, so think how extremely intensified His Pain and Suffering was ? It would have been unbearable lest He was also an Infinite Being, God Man ! It would be Unjust now for any for whom Christ died to be in the number of those who go into the second death ! Because their Surety has already endured it for them, to the Praise of God's Eternal Justice ! I'm indebted to Tobias Crisp in his Book " Christ Exalted " Pg 379-80 for some of these thoughts !

 

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Christ had a end in bearing our sins !

Christ had a end in bearing our sins ! Christ's Death had a purpose to effect, it was not that He should die for sins, then set back and see what happens of it.

It is written that He bare the sin of many Heb 9:28

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Isa 53:11-12

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors

And it was to this end, that they be made Holy Eph 5:25-26

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave[or offered as in Heb 9:28] himself for it;

26 That Hina Purpose he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

The word sanctify hagiazo means:

I make holy, treat as holy, set apart as holy, sanctify, hallow, purify.

[37 (hagiázō) means "to make holy, consecrate, sanctify; to dedicate, separate" (Abbott-Smith).]

This purpose must be a result of Christ giving of Himself for those He died for, or of those whose sins He bare Heb 9:28;Isa 53:11-12 and if not, a main element for the purpose of His death for them has been aborted, a miscarry, which is Blasphemous to even surmise ! 39

 

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Ransomed out of unbelief !

Many today dont realize [because they are spiritually blinded] that unbelief/disobedience is part of God's Justice for sin; hence Paul writes God has concluded [in Justice] all in unbelief/disobedience , for the purpose of having mercy upon them all Rom 11:32

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all

32 God has ·given [imprisoned] all people ·over to their stubborn ways [L to/in disobedience] so that he can show mercy to all.EXB

The word concluded does mean to consign, shut up, or to imprison, so by nature all men , including the Elect, are imprisoned by God into unbelief/disobedience !

The all in Rom 11:32 are all the Vessels of Mercy, like as in Rom 9:23

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

God imprisoned the Vessels of Mercy into unbelief so that He can demonstrate upon them His Mercy !

Now Christ came to give His Life a ransom for many Matt 20:28

28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Now the word ransom lutron means:

the purchasing money for manumitting slaves, a ransom, the price of ransoming; especially the sacrifice by which expiation is effected, an offering of expiation.

literally, the ransom-money (price) to free a slave. 3083 (lýtron) is used in the NT of the ultimate "liberty-price" – the blood of Christ which purchases (ransoms) believers, freeing them from all slavery (bondage) to sin.

The word above manumitting for slaves means:

To free from slavery or bondage; emancipate.

Now what all this means is all for whom Christ gave His life a ransom for, must be released from all servitude and slavery, imprisonment of sin and unbelief, disobedience.

Yes this means the ransom must experience a liberation from the Justice of unbelief/disobedience, because Christ's Life blood was the ransom payment that satisfied God's Law and Justice, so in Justice God authorizes and performs their release, this as a visible token indicating that Christ's Blood truly indeed was a sufficient payment for their release ! It was the Blood of the Covenant Zech 9:11

11 As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.

God would be Unjust to the ransom blood of Christ, if any for whom He gave His Life a ransom for die in their sins in unbelief Like these Jn 8:24

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Thats because they , if Christ died for them, should have been ransomed out of unbelief !40

 

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The work of Christ is Salvation !

Lk 2:30

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

Little be it known, this statement is meant of the Death/Work of Christ, which means that through His Work is accomplished full Salvation for all Gods People; and no its not just a opportunity for Salvation, for that makes Christ's Salvation fall short of God's Glory, makes it only a Whimsical possibility, a wish, but its a Salvation that actually saves sinners from their sins 1 Tim 1:15

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

This means to actualize their Salvation from sin, anything short of that would be failure. The word Save is the greek word sózó:

I save, heal, preserve, rescue.

He rescues and preserves sinners from the penalty and power of sin ! He heals them ! How does He do that ? By His Stripes 1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

That word healed iaomai

I heal, generally of the physical, sometimes of spiritual, disease.

to make whole i. e. to free from errors and sins, to bring about (one's) salvation:

Bring about means cause to occur,effect, produce, cause to exist, and this confirms that He brings about the actualization of their Salvation and not a possibility !

Lk 1:68-77

68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;

77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins, 40

 

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The work of Christ is Salvation !2

Today in false christianity/religion, Christ's Work has been reduced to only accomplishing a possibility/ chance for Salvation, leaving it up to man to make it an actual experience.

The Death of Christ alone has effected into actualization the full Salvation of those He came to Save, His People Matt 1:21:

That includes Redemption, Reconciliation, Propitiation, and Justification, and Sanctification with final Glorification !

His Death was Authorized by God to save all for whom He died from the Penalty and Power of Sin, thats the meaning of Lk 1:71,74-75

71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.


To be saved and or delivered from our enemies ! One of the Prime Enemies is satan, the Devil, an adversary 1 Pet 5:8

8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Now the word adversary antidikos means opponent, enemy, The Devil is one of the enemies of the People of God, those made in His Image and Likness ! It was first seen with his attack against the first of God's People in Adam and Eve, they were the Church at that Time, the Body of Christ ! Thats why Paul uses that incident in counseling with the Church at Corinth 2 Cor 11:2-3

2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

That is evidence that he was an enemy of the People of God from the dawn of world history.

Now the devil, the serpent, satan is one of the enemies the people of God must be delivered from in order for Christ's coming to die and be our Salvation can be successful ! Lk 1:71

71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

Satan was the enemy of Adam and Eve and hated them for God's Image sake ! Now, will those He came to be Saviour unto, be saved out of his hand ?

 

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The work of Christ is Salvation !3

Salvation entails for it to be Salvation, to be saved from our enemies Lk 1:71

That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

The word saved Soteria means:

Deliverance, Preservation, Safety, also in a ethical sense, that which results in or concludes to the Souls Safety and or Salvation.

This indicates that to be saved must extend to that of being saved not only from the Penalty of sin, but from its Power also in order that the saved shall serve God as Per Lk 1:74-75

to rescue us from the hand of our enemies,
and to enable us to serve him without fear

75
in holiness and righteousness before him all our days.NIV

That word serve latreu means to serve/worship in a capacity of a Priest, to discharge that Office.

Remember the result of the redeeming death and blood of Christ acknowledged here Rev 5:9-10

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.;

The word also means to worship God as in Phil 3:3

3 For we are the circumcision, which worship/serve God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Its the word used in Heb 9:14

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve/worship the living God?

Which the Blood of Christ is here identified to be the source by which is effected the purging of the conscience from something [dead works] to something [serving/worshiping] the True Living God !

BTW this verse condemns all who deny that the Death/Blood of Christ alone effects Salvation/ Conversion from the Power of sin to a life of Faith and Worship/Serving as a Priest unto God. For certainly there cannot be worship of God without True Faith, So Faith to serve / worship God with, is a by product/effect of the Blood of Christ, the Death of Christ ! 40

 

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Redeemed from Death !

Hos 13:14

14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

This Promise of redemption is premised upon the Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ Eph 1:7

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

The Blood of the Covenant Zech 9:11

As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.

Which is the same as here Matt 26:28

For this is my blood of the new testament/covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Now understand, this Redemption in Christ's blood delivers His People, the Many Matt 26:28 from all the penal evils of sin and death!

Now one of these penal evils for their sins is that of spiritual death, and thats why as a consequence of His Death for them, all for whom He died, His entire Body, Church that He gave Himself for Eph 5:25 must be made alive out of spiritual death of trespasses and sins, as indicated and stated in Eph 2:4-6

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

This being made alive with Christ while dead in sins, is the consequence and faithfulness to God's Promise Hos 13:14

14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

You see death in all of its varieties is an enemy 1 Cor 15:26

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Now this verse in its context is speaking of physical death, for it at present is an enemy that serves a good purpose for the Saints Ps 116:15 , it has no evil in it for them,

However spiritual death is also an enemy, it prevents them that are greatly Loved by God from serving Him, so Christ's redeeming death provided effective provision to deliver, rescue them from the powers of spiritual death, so that they can worship/serve Him in Spirit and Truth, so we read in Lk 1:74-75

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies [spiritual death] might serve him without fear,

75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

Folks Christ's death would be proved ineffective to redeem if it did not effect deliverance from spiritual death of all those Christ died for !

 

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Made Righteous in Him !

2 Cor 5:21

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Christ was made sin for us, which equates to His dying because our sins were laid to His Charge, Hence He died for our sins 1 Cor 15:3 !

This scripture 2 Cor 5:21 Moreso than any other, proves that those Christ died for, made sin for, that they are in Him, and in Him made Righteous ! He could not have died for us if there was not first a Legal Union so that He could be justly charged with our sins before God's Law and Justice !

Now this being made the Righteousness of God in Him because of His Death, is accorded with Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The word made here is the greek word kathistémi:

I set down, bring down to a place; I set in order, appoint, make, constitute.

"to set down as, constitute (Latinsisto), equivalent to to declare, show to be

Now heres how it goes, because of one mans disobedience, that being Adam, many were made, constituted, shown to be sinners !

The correlative is Because of one Mans obedience, that being Christ, many shall be made, constituted, shown to be Righteous !

Yet the order is important, first the many are made or shown to be sinners, by Natural Birth, then later those sinners are made , shown to be Righteous by Spiritual Birth, thats why it reads they shall be made Righteous, because their natural being comes first, then their Spiritual being comes afterwards, they first must bear the image of the natural, before bearing the image of the Spiritual, a principal stated here 1 Cor 15:49

And as we have borne the image of the earthy[Adam as sinners], we shall also bear the image of the heavenly[Christ the Righteous].

So all them Christ died for, are made to be , shown to be, and declared to be Righteous by Christ's Righteousness imputed to them. The fact is, His dying for them, and His Righteousness charged to them, are corresponding blessings, one cannot be true without the other.

This would mean that everyone Christ has died for is in Christ, because He having been made sin for them [denoting His death for them] they are made the Righteousness of God [by Imputation] in Him, so they are even in Him as unrepentant, unbelieving enemies, they are still in Him made Righteous ! This is a Gospel Truth that the perishing lost religious world does not believe !

 

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It Promises Spiritual Life !


Those Christ died for, He promised them Spiritual Life ! This is a Spiritual Truth that those not born again cannot receive ; However When Christ made this statement Jn 12:32

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

The big if here that needs to be done in order for the drawing of all to take place is He being lifted up, referring to His Death on the Tree Jn 3:14

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

And out of this Lifting up His Promise is that He will or shall draw all for whom He was Lifted up for unto Himself, and the drawing here is Spiritual Life.

The word for draw, helko has a metaphorically definition :

to draw by inward power, lead, impel

Now in addition to the inward power being the Life of the Holy Spirit according to the Faith of Promise Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

And the Spirit is Life because of Righteousness Rom 8:10

And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

The Spirit gives Life to all whom Christ died and made Righteous Rom 5:19, because Christ's Righteousness has been Imputed, Life is given in recognition of it !

Prov 12:28

In the way of righteousness is life: and in the pathway thereof there is no death.

Christ's Righteousness Imputed is the way of Life !40

 

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It Promises Spiritual Life ! 2


Jn 12:32

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

More now on the word draw helko :

II.metaph., to draw by inward power, lead, impel

We are establishing why to draw equates to Spiritual Life, and why Jn 12:32 is in fact a Promise Christ makes in giving Life as a result of His being lifted up, meaning His Death, for all whom He was lifted up in behalf of !

As a result of His Death for the many, that many shall be made Righteous Rom 5:19 and thats imputed Righteousness, and where there is Righteousness, The Spirit for Christ's Sake gives Life Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That gives the inward power ! Now the word impel denotes motion which denotes movement, which denotes action and or lively activity which of course denotes Life !

This is the Life He promised the World of His Sheep Jn 6:33

33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

Thats the result of His coming down, was to give Life unto the World, Spiritual Life !

Also to the same purpose we have Jn 10:10

10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they[The Sheep World] might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

This life which is by the Spirit because of Righteousness, because of His Obedience unto death, is the drawing power and impelling spken of by Jesus in Jn 12:32, promised if He be Lifted up from the earth, which He was !

The drawing to Christ is into a life of intimate fellowship with Christ, as His Bride says in Canticles 1:4

Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.

The drawing produces Spiritual activity, the running after Christ !

This espousal drawing and running to Christ is the result of having Spiritual Life. That drawing is that Life in action that He came to give His Sheep Jn 10:10;6:33 and it comes as promised as a result/effect of having been lifted up from the earth, signifying His Death on the Cross !

If any for whom Christ died do not receive Life to come to Christ into His Fellowship 1 Cor 1:9 then Jn 12:32 and Jesus promise there is a Lie !

 

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It Promises Spiritual Life and faith persuasion ! 3

Jesus said as an consequence of being Lifted up [His Death upon the Tree/Cross] Jn 12:32

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Now in the original the word men is not there, so it reads basically :

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all unto me.

Now whoever the all are, they will be drawn to Christ ! We do know for sure, the all are of those He was Lifted up on the Cross in behalf of !

Now I believe the all are the Sheep or His Sheep and heres why. Jesus basically says the same thing here in Jn 10:16

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them[Other Sheep] also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Notice, the Other Sheep He must bring ! The word bring here is key to our understanding and how it relates to Jn 12:32, its the word , a verb
agō:

II.to lead,

A.to lead, guide, direct


B.to lead through, conduct to: to something


C.to move, impel: of forces and influences on the mind

And the word draw in Jn 12:32 is the greek verb helkō:

II.metaph., to draw by inward power, lead, impel

They are basically the same definition, To lead and or to impel. The impelling is by inward power that has a persuasive influence on the mind !

The word helko also means :

I drag, draw, pull, persuade, unsheathe.

And may I add that the idea of Faith is to persuade ! The common greek word for Faith is pistis:

which is from peithô which means:

persuade, be persuaded") – properly, persuasion (be persuaded, come to trust

And so thats what the drawing in Jn 12:32 entails as a result of Christ being Lifted up. They all for whom He was lifted up in behalf shall be persuaded into Faith/ Trust !

How will He persuade them into Trust ? By the Power of the Gospel Eph 1:13

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

In the original the word Trust is not there, it was added by the Translators, but the verb pisteuó/believed is which means:

I believe, have faith in, trust in; pass: I am entrusted with.

to think to be true; to be persuaded of; to credit, place confidence in;

So Jn 12:32 is a standing Testimony from the Mouth of Christ Himself stating that all for whom He died shall come to Faith in Him, for as it is written, The Just shall Live by Faith ! Everyone Christ died for shall be made Just/ Righteous Rom 5:19 ! 40

 

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Ransomed out of unbelief !2

One of the most subtle falsehoods today that takes away credit from the death of Christ and its effects for all for whom He died, is that even though He died in their stead, they are under condemnation for their unbelief Jn 3:18

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

False teachers say this means that even those for whom Christ died are already condemned because of unbelief !

The problem however is that those Christ died for are actually the Vessels of Mercy, and God has purposed to show them Mercy because of their unbelief Rom 11:32

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

You see that, Unbelief is the cause of God having Mercy upon them and not the cause of God condemning them.

This has been Illustrated by the Apostle who obtained Mercy [as a Vessel of Mercy] because of the evil he did in unbelief 1 Tim 1:13-14

13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

You see that in Vs 13 ? Unbelief was the occasion for God having Mercy upon him not condemning him !

This was because Christ had gave Himself for Paul as he stated here Gal 2:20

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

When we are Loved by the Son of God, and He gave Himself for us, we obtain mercy for our unbelief and ignorance, not condemnation !

For one whom Christ died, to die in their sins in unbelief Jn 8:24 is a contradiction to the saving mercy and purposes of God in Christ !

Finally, those in Jn 3:18 who are in unbelief and already condemned, they are not condemned because of their unbelief, but because of their sins charged upon them, and not having Christ as their Surety, and so unbelief to them is a consequential evidence of remaining under the condemnation of the Law for their sins against it, because, believing not meant they were not of God's Sheep Jn 10:26 for whom Christ died Jn 10:11,15 ! 41

 

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Because I live, ye shall live also !

Jn 14:19

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

Jesus here is speaking to and of His Sheep, and He makes this Promise to them "because I live, ye shall live also" !

He can say this because He is their Legal Head in Union with them, He is speaking as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep, who by His Blood Shed, He will establish Life and Peace for the Sheep, by the Blood of the Everlasting Covenant Heb 13:20

20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

BTW , If He is brought from the Dead as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep, He died as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep, and He did not die for us if we were not of His Sheep, neither shall we believe in Him for that same reason Jn 10:26 !

Since by this He was brought again from the dead, therefore He Lives and that forever more Rev 1:18

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

And because He now Lives as their Head and Shepherd, all the Sheep shall live also, and that's Jesus promise in our text Jn 14:19 !

They shall live also because unto them He has been made a Life-giving Spirit 1 Cor 15:45, and so if everyone He rose as their Great Shepherd from the dead for Heb 13:20, doesn't be made to Live also, then Christ's words in Jn 14:19 are a lie, a cheat, He is a false witness, which i hope none who call themselves believers would ever admit to. And since all men without exception shall live and see Life Jn 3:36, they were not of His Sheep that He died for, to whom the promise of Jn 14:19 was made ! 41

 

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It produces newness of life or new birth !

Rom 6:4

4 Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.


Christ's Death for those He died for produces newness of life, or new birth . In Rom 6:4 Paul is explaining the end results of Christ having died for us, since those He died for died in union with Him, which death of His is called a baptism Lk 12:50

50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!

Or they were baptized with Him; He said it[His Baptism] was to be accomplished, the same said about His Death Lk 9:31

31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.

Jn 19:30

When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished or accomplished: and he bowed his head, and gave up his spirit.

30 After Yeshua had taken the wine, he said, “It is accomplished!” And, letting his head droop, he delivered up his spirit.CJB

So all for whom He died, as their Head and Shepherd Surety Representative, died or was baptized with Him; And in the same manner Christ their Head was raised from the dead by the Glory of the Father, likewise/even so we [His Body] should walk in Newness of Life, which is the New Birth or a Spiritual resurrection from the spiritual dead See Eph 2:5-6, and its this fact which is symbolized by water baptism !

Note: Folks water baptism is worthless if its not done with a spiritual understanding that the believers was in election union with Christ in His Our death, burial, and resurrection, if that was not comprehended when water baptized, it was in vain !

Peter states the same fact to believers, how they had been begotten again [from the dead] by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ [Their Head] from the dead 1 Pet 1:3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by[because of] the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

And the words begotten us again anagennaó means:

I beget again, beget into a new life. hence in agreement with Pauls statement of Newness of Life in Rom 6:4; with these things in mind, its a given fact from the scripture of truth, that Christ's death for those He died for, produces for them a newness of life, just as sure and certain that He was raised up from the dead in their behalf and Justification Rom 4:25 ! 43

 

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Christ's death alone loosed us from our sins !

Rev 1:5

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Folks these things go hand and hand, Christ Loved us [His Church Eph 5:25] and so as a result He washed us [His Church] from our sins, no if and buts and maybes !

But now what does this washed us from our sins mean ? The word washed here is the greek word luó and means:

I loose, untie, release, (b) met: I break, destroy, set at naught, contravene; I break up a meeting, annul.

It means to discharge, set free !

To of something weighing upon or impeding over one, as a debt, claim, obligation, responsibility, accusation, etc.; to absolve; to acquit; to clear.

Those Christ Loved and died for are absolved, acquitted from all their sins, washed in that regard, and this even before they become believers, even though they shall become believers later ! You see their believing isnt what Loosed them from their sins, not at all, it was Christ's blood that accomplished that ! 43

Its a True fact that Christ for them by His death has satisfied God's Law and Justice and have been legally loosed set free from all of its guilt, condemnation, and penalty [which is death],

Its just as a women has been loosed from the Law of her husband by his death Rom 7:2

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

Loosed:

to be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from, anyone;

Also Paul states it in another way here Rom 6:7

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Yes those Christ Loved and died for are freed from sin, but yet this word freed carries with it the Truth of Justified, justified from sin !

They are Justified / freed from sin by the Body of Christ Rom 7:4 which means His death, or Blood.

Those Christ died for are washed, loosed from, clear from all charges and attending due punishment, regarding their sins.

Now false teachers would tell us that this freedom from their sins condemnation and punishment of them is not until they believe, which is a lie and a attempt to steal the Crown of Victory from Christ and His Love and His Blood ! Those of us He died for are loosed from our sins by His Blood alone !Rev 1:5 43

 

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Christ's Death effects our Repentance towards God !

Jer 31:18-19

18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the Lord my God.

19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.

Repentance is the fruit of being turned by Christ, It is God Our Saviour through the Person and Work of the Lord Jesus Christ, that men are given repentance Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 11:18

18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Note: Repentance of this nature must be given, we have it not in us by nature !

Now in fact, its an accomplishment of His death for us, and here's why !

The prophets stated "Surely after that I was turned, I repented"

In other words, his act of repenting was effected by him being first acted upon ! He was first turned, and AFTER that he repented !

The word turned in Jer 31:19 is shub: to turn back, return, so in this case it means to be returned or to be turned back, it means to bring back, it means to convert !

The word also corresponds with the NT word returned here in 1 Pet 2:25

25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

here its the greek word epistrepho which means, to cause to return, to bring back unto the Love and Obedience of God, and its in the passive voice, which denotes that they are being returned, acted upon, and this is effected by what transpired in Vs 24 1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Its the results of the healing that His stripes/death brings, a conversion to God !

And its this being returned that brings forth or causes our repentance, as the Prophet said, AFTER i was turned, I repented ! 43