Christian Attitudes

[Bazz1040]

exactly as that is how faith works not a brainwashing.

Authority and brainwashing are separate issues......so one can still have authority and still be brainwashed. Besides, I was speaking more of the soldier today and not those back then.....I suspect that today’s soldiers are more brainwashed than they were back then.<O:p</O:p

 

[jasoncran]

Authority and brainwashing are separate issues......so one can still have authority and still be brainwashed. Besides, I was speaking more of the soldier today and not those back then.....I suspect that today’s soldiers are more brainwashed than they were back then.<O:p</O:p

no, they arent

i can tell. i ask. we have soldiers who debate for why we fight in the wars we do, what athiesm is. and the nature of god.

i have debated these brainwashed soldiers on science. history,

no soldier wants to kill for fun if they do i will be the first to see that man need not go to war with me.

some arent just informed on what the reasons are, that is all.

i could say that on the creationist and evolutionist argument

as most christians say evolution is wrong because god says so. ok? why do you believe that and what the does field of science says. most christians dont know the arguments. i explained string theory to a fellow believer this morning and what the big bang was in a nut shell

most christians think that the bible doesnt allow any form of evolution and they are aslo so anti-science they are way out there.

i listened to my pastor explain the argument of naturalism and why it was wrong.
he called the big bang as part of the toe!

the toe and the big bang arent the same. and he aslo had no clue on what the big bang says.

i told him briefly after the service.

some think that by looking closely at the arguments and even accepting evolution one will loose salvation. thats not in the bible

others dont care and dont want to be able defend the creationist side.

in a sense that is brainwashing.

 

[Bazz1040]

no, they arent

i can tell. i ask. we have soldiers who debate for why we fight in the wars we do, what athiesm is. and the nature of god.

i have debated these brainwashed soldiers on science. history,

Debating does not mean one is not brainwashed.....one can still do that and still be brainwashed.<O:p</O:p

no soldier wants to kill for fun if they do i will be the first to see that man need not go to war with me.

That's what they say what they do is another matter.<O:p</O:p

some arent just informed on what the reasons are, that is all.

i could say that on the creationist and evolutionist argument

as most christians say evolution is wrong because god says so. ok? why do you believe that and what the does field of science says. most christians dont know the arguments. i explained string theory to a fellow believer this morning and what the big bang was in a nut shell

most christians think that the bible doesnt allow any form of evolution and they are aslo so anti-science they are way out there.

i listened to my pastor explain the argument of naturalism and why it was wrong.
he called the big bang as part of the toe!

the toe and the big bang arent the same. and he aslo had no clue on what the big bang says.

i told him briefly after the service.

some think that by looking closely at the arguments and even accepting evolution one will loose salvation. thats not in the bible

others dont care and dont want to be able defend the creationist side.

in a sense that is brainwashing.

It all depends on what you are talking about when you use the word evolution. Most people and atheist in particular, when they talk about evolution are talking about life coming into existence by itself and started out as molecules coming together on its own, then form in simple one cell life and over probably billions of year to what we have today. An atheist believes that the Big Bang started itself and that matter either had always existed or it came into existence by itself.<O:p</O:p

 

[jasoncran]

problem when we teach that the bible is the truth and never explain why that is that. that is indoctrination!

we dont teach a person to critically think the bible just believe cause its true.

so its true why? because we say it so.

if that aint indoctrination then i dont what is.

i'm right and dont question me is a classic line.

a person who is brainwashed,and btw that is really hard to do to person in america contrary to your conspiracy thinking
here's why

how do you keep the person of the internet?
and away from any outside newsource?

most of your conspiracies i heard from soldiers who believed in them!

lol!

those were the dirtbag ones and druggies that wanted out and would use them to justify that.

 

[Bazz1040]

problem when we teach that the bible is the truth and never explain why that is that. that is indoctrination!.

we dont teach a person to critically think the bible just believe cause its true.

so its true why? because we say it so.

if that aint indoctrination then i dont what is.

You think you can explain the trinity? Can you explain how God has always existed? Can you explain His power and how He is able to create? Or do you accept these things on faith?<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

The other stuff you mentioned I am not even going to get into that. <O:p</O:p

 

[Strangelove]

some say that we christians are brainwashed as we accept the authority of God and dont even question it! hmmm that sounds real familiar. i bark an order that is defined to be lawful and the subbordinates do it.

God tell us and we go. not much difference.

Huh?

Theres no difference between God's commands and Officer Jasoncrans orders?

LOLZ!

 

[Strangelove]

i dont agree with my co policies and i often will criticize in private the leaders decision but i will obey them.. if we are honest we do the same with god. we often dont want to go where god send us but we go,

No I never question God's policies do you?

Oh wait, you think that your commanding officer is God! Oh boy.

Or maybe the president, is he God? Lol.

You don't have a government man. You have a criminal cabal masquerading as government. The last real president you had was JFK.

God doesn't send your military anywhere to kill people. Thats some other spiritual entity.

 

[Strangelove]

i listened to my pastor explain the argument of naturalism and why it was wrong.
he called the big bang as part of the toe!

the toe and the big bang arent the same. and he aslo had no clue on what the big bang says.

i told him briefly after the service.

Is there anything in the world your NOT an expert on?

Theory of Origin and the Big Bang /expanding / 15 million year old universe are HANDCUFFED together! Evolution CAN'T happen without the Big bang. And the whole shebang is ripped straight out of the pages of the Christ hating Kaballah.

If you let me back into the Science sub-forum maybe we can discuss it.

 

[Strangelove]

a person who is brainwashed,and btw that is really hard to do to person in america contrary to your conspiracy thinking
here's why

how do you keep the person of the internet?
and away from any outside newsource?

most of your conspiracies i heard from soldiers who believed in them!

lol!

those were the dirtbag ones and druggies that wanted out and would use them to justify that.

I'll tell you how they contain the available truth. Especially in the army.

They have thuggish bully boy squaddies who are so deep in their brainwashing and are conditioned to attack any truthsayers by labeling them as 'conspiracy theorists' or 'whackjobs' or 'druggies' or 'dirtbags' that the rest of the freethinkers are scared to stand up for the truth for fear of being ostracized.

Ridicule in other words.

Doesn't work on the forums though does it? Lol.

Doesn't quite have the same effect when your not face to face with big scary Officer Cran.

 

[Lance_Iguana]

Theory of Origin and the Big Bang /expanding / 15 million year old universe are HANDCUFFED together!

Hardly. A theory about how the Universe expanded actually has very little to do with The ToE. Especially since Life on this planet has only existed for around a couple of million years. Saying they are " handcuffed together is like saying Ohm's Law and the Law of gravity is hooked together. Nice try.

Evolution CAN'T happen without the Big bang.

Only in the sense that there has to be a universe to exist for evolution to take place. But what you are trying to do is force in multiple theories so you can jump back and forth and not have to concentrate on a single theory. When I want to talk about grass, I don't need to know the history of Cloraphil.

And the whole shebang is ripped straight out of the pages of the Christ hating Kaballah

Lol, no its not. No where in the Kaballah dose it talk about Genetics, star collapses, black holes, the speed of light, or background radiation, Caniforms and felaforms diverging off of common ancestral rodents, the formation of new heart chambers, or the changes in alial frequencies.

 

[Lance_Iguana]

All the Kaballah says is that 3 Gods collapsed in on each other and made the "word", not the universe we have today, and that Man was made immediately afterward.

That sounds nothing like The Big bang, that explains how ( so far as evidence has shown) the Universe has been infinitely expanding outwards and that all that is within the galaxies have been formed from the mass and energy structuring, collapsing, and pulling on each other due to gravity, and everything has ordered itself based on Relativity.

The theory of evolution happens way after this, and also not until a planet forms with the ability to chemically create amino acids which chemically react with each other to form proto cells.

How the heck are they directly related?

 

[Strangelove]

Hardly. A theory about how the Universe expanded actually has very little to do with The ToE. Especially since Life on this planet has only existed for around a couple of million years.

LOLZ! FACT!

Only in the sense that there has to be a universe to exist for evolution to take place. But what you are trying to do is force in multiple theories so you can jump back and forth and not have to concentrate on a single theory. When I want to talk about grass, I don't need to know the history of Cloraphil.

Lol, no its not. No where in the Kaballah dose it talk about Genetics, star collapses, black holes, the speed of light, or background radiation, Caniforms and felaforms diverging off of common ancestral rodents, the formation of new heart chambers, or the changes in alial frequencies.

What your doing is setting up a straw man argument based on logical fallacies shaping circular reasoning to justify your baseless counter propositions in order to pre-factually suppose a dissolusioned di facto misrepresented semi-counter factual dichotomy ((**BREEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAATH**)) leading to erroneously languid and over metamorphosised sophistical and speciously contrived, fallacious expostulation!

 

[Strangelove]

All the Kaballah says is that 3 Gods collapsed in on each other and made the "word", not the universe we have today, and that Man was made immediately afterward.

That sounds nothing like The Big bang, that explains how ( so far as evidence has shown) the Universe has been infinitely expanding outwards and that all that is within the galaxies have been formed from the mass and energy structuring, collapsing, and pulling on each other due to gravity, and everything has ordered itself based on Relativity.

The theory of evolution happens way after this, and also not until a planet forms with the ability to chemically create amino acids which chemically react with each other to form proto cells.

How the heck are they directly related?

Ok let me get back into the Science forum and present the ralationship and then Lance_Iguana / LordKalvan can come in and use lots of fancy words to champion your Kaballhistic religion.

 

[Oats]

Hardly. A theory about how the Universe expanded actually has very little to do with The ToE. Especially since Life on this planet has only existed for around a couple of million years. Saying they are " handcuffed together is like saying Ohm's Law and the Law of gravity is hooked together. Nice try.

Only in the sense that there has to be a universe to exist for evolution to take place. But what you are trying to do is force in multiple theories so you can jump back and forth and not have to concentrate on a single theory. When I want to talk about grass, I don't need to know the history of Cloraphil.

Lol, no its not. No where in the Kaballah dose it talk about Genetics, star collapses, black holes, the speed of light, or background radiation, Caniforms and felaforms diverging off of common ancestral rodents, the formation of new heart chambers, or the changes in alial frequencies.

OFF TOPIC.....ALL YOU GUYS ARE GETTING OFF TOPIC

if you can't stick to the op please think of how you could or just observe without posting....

this goes for all of you

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[lamplady]

OFF TOPIC.....ALL YOU GUYS ARE GETTING OFF TOPIC

if you can't stick to the op please think of how you could or just observe without posting....

this goes for all of you

whichet! (whipped lol!)

displaying the characteristic i just stated...2

lool! see it's so easy to do ...