I got saved in 1986 at the age of 14. Right from the start I was turned on to Christian Rock music. The first album I bought was by Stryper. I quickly got turned onto other Christian rock and metal bands: Petra, DeGarmo and Key, Vengeance Rising, Believer,, Seventh Angel, etc. I've had a lot of debates with other Christians over the years, but it has never shaken my opinion that these bands are serving The Lord. I would like to hear other's opinions about Christian rock and metal music?
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Christian rock and metal music
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I only listen to Christian music and rock and metal get fairly regular play, especially when working out. It started in my teens with bands like Petra and Whiteheart, moved to Rez, Whitecross, Bride, and Holy Soldier, and then on to much heavier punk/thrash (The Crucified), and even heavier with Mortification. Still have a number of cassettes.
Currently, Blindside, Skillet, Wolves at the Gate, Red, Demon Hunter, and August Burns Red are among my favourites.
Christian rock and metal has always had some of the strongest lyrics in Christian music, although some of the newer stuff is either more subtle in its Christian message or deals more with cultural and life issues. While Skillet is more subtle in their lyrics, they are very outspoken about their faith, especially John Cooper (but you may know all this). Wolves at the Gate has very strong lyrics, which I appreciate. I do believe God uses these bands to reach those who may not otherwise step inside a church or listen to someone on the street preaching the gospel.
I am in there with the lyrics. The songs are understandable.
David and the Giants were about my only real exposure. I went to one concert, but did go to meat the group.
(One Less Stone, One More Voice)
Was a favorite song.
The gentile inclusion brought in some things the Jews never expected. Of course I have seen some wild Jewish stuff.
eddif
David and the Giants were about my only real exposure. I went to one concert, but did go to meat the group.
(One Less Stone, One More Voice)
Was a favorite song.
The gentile inclusion brought in some things the Jews never expected. Of course I have seen some wild Jewish stuff.
eddif
I'm not to fond of it, but many of these types of bands have brought many young people to the Lord, not only through the music, but also through the lyrics that bring the Gospel message to our youth.
I saw David and the Giants in concert long ago , great group
."Now Jesus was going up on his way to Jerusalem, to be lifted up on a tree, that he might draw all me to him, The multitudes began to praise him, while other were trying to stop them, And Jesus said, "If these hold their peace, the stones will surely cry out." And here is one less stone, One more voice to praise the mighty name: the name of our Lord, Here is one less stone, one more to praise him, Blessed is the king who comes in the name of our Lord."
Music, especially anointed music is supposed to move you, not push you.
Tenchi
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On what basis do you argue that they're serving the Lord?
subtlecollision
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I'm curious what people's arguments are that you've come across why they say it's wrong to listen to it? I don't see why it would be.
Tenchi
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How does Christian rock music avoid being fleshly and sensual - two things the Bible says mark what is also both sinful and demonic?
Jude 1:18-19
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These are they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
James 3:15
15 This wisdom descends not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
Galatians 5:16-17
16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
17 For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.
Romans 8:5-8 (NASB)
5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,
7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,
8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
As these verse indicate, the things of the flesh, sensual things, things that strongly stimulate the physical and emotional side of ourselves, are directly opposed to the things of the Spirit, to being truly spiritual. How does Christian rock avoid being sensual - appealing to or stimulating our physical/emotional aspects - which Scripture says opposes what is spiritual?
Jude 1:18-19
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These are they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
James 3:15
15 This wisdom descends not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
Galatians 5:16-17
16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
17 For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.
Romans 8:5-8 (NASB)
5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,
7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,
8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
As these verse indicate, the things of the flesh, sensual things, things that strongly stimulate the physical and emotional side of ourselves, are directly opposed to the things of the Spirit, to being truly spiritual. How does Christian rock avoid being sensual - appealing to or stimulating our physical/emotional aspects - which Scripture says opposes what is spiritual?
One must first understand the doctrine of man before understanding music and its influence on the soul.
We are to be "fruit" inspectors and observe to see if fruit of the spirit is being produced and this applies to ANY ministry of God . Are people being strengthened in their faith or being born again at the groups concerts ? What did Jesus say to the apostles in Mark Chapter 9 .
NKJV
38 Now John answered Him, saying, "Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us." 39 But Jesus said, "Do not forbid him, for no one who works a miracle in My name can soon afterward speak evil of Me. 40 "For he who is not against us is on our side.
41 For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink in My name, because you belong to Christ, assuredly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward.
Tenchi
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Yes, I, too, eat meals, and sleep, and work and do a myriad of things daily that are physical, of the flesh, and not aimed specifically and chiefly at a spiritual end. But, you know, it is possible to glorify God - a very spiritual thing, I think - in everything I do. (1 Corinthians 10:31) How do I do this in, say, "answering the call of nature," or enjoying my wife in a physical way, or digging weeds from the garden? Well, for me, this is accomplished by remaining in all of these things submitted, in love and faith, to my Maker and in so doing reminding myself that all of my life is lived within a spiritual context. Nothing is so mundane that it is exempt from God's attention, or from my being submitted to Him in it. In everything I do I have half an eye turned to Him, I nurture an attitude of constant yieldedness to Him, looking for His will in the things I think as I'm on the throne, for His wisdom in pleasing my wife, for His mind and heart as I pull weeds, or drive to the grocery store, or fold the laundry. As I learn to live this way in a deeper and deeper way, I find my life increasingly filled with God's peace, joy, and love (among other things) and with a desire to praise my Heavenly Father in, and for, everything.
So, no, relations with your wife are not opposed necessarily to being truly spiritual. In fact, the marriage bed can be a place of great joy in, and worship of, God. But, generally, I think it isn't. I have observed that physical relations between husbands and wives can be extremely selfish and carnal, totally devoid of any spiritual dimension, any thought of God, whatever. As one guy put it to me, "It's like going to the toilet. I'm just relieving myself." Yuck. This is what happens to sex when God is removed from it; it just degenerates into ugly, selfish lust. It is, then, very possible to enjoy your wife in a completely fleshly - that is, unspiritual and selfish - way.
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Christ_empowered
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I dunno 
The entertainment industry seems designed to corrupt entertainers and much of their audience. Christian entertainment…not exempt.
Just a side thought
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I’m becoming increasingly suspicious of those whose livelihoods are rooted in the established church system. Minister’s Christian counselors theologians on and on…
The entertainment industry seems designed to corrupt entertainers and much of their audience. Christian entertainment…not exempt.
Just a side thought
…I’m becoming increasingly suspicious of those whose livelihoods are rooted in the established church system. Minister’s Christian counselors theologians on and on…
